Let’s get our priorities in order!

We are at war in Iraq. How we got there is not important. Once we go to war you either buckle-up and wave the flag or get run over. If we miss, our almost ready for battle boys will slay you with their adverb/adjective RPG’s and spear you with their talking points.

Maybe mistakes might have been made. But it’s unpatriotic to suggest we screwed-up because that means you don’t support the troops. So unless you are behind more of the same (forward march), shut the fuck-up.

For what it’s worth, my source (Gus the one-eyed possum) says victory is at hand regardless of the situation and we will promptly withdraw within the next 12 months. Midterm elections will not be a factor.

I'm throwing my money into condos in Tikrit, Fallujah, and Tal Afar.


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So I'm unpatriotic and I don't support our troops. Tell you what the day they put GWB's two daughters and Chenney's gay daughter together in a Hummer without armour and put them in Iraq cruising the streets for 18 months straight, I will conceed that this is a just war and I was wrong.              When will you right-wingers understand that we all support our troops in the field and everything they do to make us safe and protect us. What I don't support is the decision to put them in harms way in the first place when there was no need to.

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JFK's or LBJ's kids do any time in "the Nam"??

What unit were Roosevelt and Churchill's kids in?

OR ARE WE JUST MAKING SHIT UP AS WE GO??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

ARGGHHHH. i SHOULD BE BETTER AT THIS. mY MOM IS NEUROTIC...

Since you asked....
All four of FDR's sons served in WW II:

James Roosevelt went on active duty as a captain in the United States Marine Corps in November 1940; promoted to colonel April 13, 1944, and served in the Pacific Theater; released from active duty in August 1945; brigadier general United States Marine Corps Reserve, retired;

Elliott Roosevelt was an Army Colonel and combat pilot

Franklin Delano Roosevelt Jr. was a Navy ensign who served in North Africa, Europe, and the Pacific and was awarded the Purple Heart and the Silver Star;

John Roosevelt was a Navy Lieutenant who earned a Bronze Star.

Now remind me again about the military service records of George W., Neil and Jeb Bush.  

"Nearby, a man stood in the middle of the street holding a gun to the head of another man in a car. Other drivers steered around them. No one stopped to help, or looked that carefully. After more than two years of war, Baghdad's people have learned to choose their battles, and this one didn't qualify."

"On the city's streets, the daily reality involves death, random violence and routine deprivations for people who are beyond anger. But a different view has been presented in the Green Zone, the concrete-barricaded headquarters for U.S. troops, diplomats and contractors, and the interim Iraqi government. There, the situation is described as progressing toward a gradual handover from U.S. forces to Iraqi control."

It's all good.



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it's objectivity, rational thought, and making an effort to get past the bullshit that costs extra.

It ain't all good
it ain't all bad
and it ain't all over...

http://michaelyon.blogspot.com/
http://www.strategypage.com/
http://www.command-post.org/
http://counterterror.typepad.com/the_counterterrorism_blog/
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
http://messopotamian.blogspot.com/
http://windsofchange.net/
http://intelligence.senate.gov/iraqreport2.pdf

Pain is cheap? Maybe in your world.

http://icasualties.org/oif/

No, it's not over. Not by a long shot.


http://www.csis.org/features/050512_IraqInsurg.pdf

cheap, as in the way that the pain and death suffered by Iraqi's and Coalition forces is used by demagogues as a cheap argument that the situation in Iraq is a failure. Truth is it's too early to tell, and anyone who thought it would be over by now is just as big a fool as those who think/hope all is lost.

RLTW

"anyone who thought it would be over by now is just as big a fool as those who think/hope all is lost." RLTW

“Major combat operations in Iraq have ended.” – President Bush, 5/1/03

The war “could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.” – Defense Secretary Donald [2/7/03]

“We will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. . . . I think it will go relatively quickly... (in) weeks rather than months.” – Vice President Cheney [3/16/03]

The notion that it would take several hundred thousand American troops just seems outlandish.” Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz 3/4/03

“What is, I think, reasonably certain is the idea that it would take several hundred thousand U.S. forces I think is far from the mark.” – Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld 2/27/03

“The oil revenues of Iraq could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years…We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.” – Paul Wolfowitz, [Congressional Testimony, 3/27/03]

“Iraq, unlike Afghanistan, is a rather wealthy country. Iraq has tremendous resources that belong to the Iraqi people. And so there are a variety of means that Iraq has to be able to shoulder much of the burden for their own reconstruction.” – White House Spokesman Ari Fleischer, 2/18/03

Iraq will be “ an affordable endeavor ” that “ will not require sustained aid ” and will “be in the range of $50 billion to $60 billion .” – Budget Director Mitch Daniels [Forbes 4/11/03, W. Post 3/28/03, NY Times 1/2/03, respectively]

“Costs of any such intervention would be very small.” - Top White House Economist Glen Hubbard [CNBC, 10/4/02]

Paul Wolfowitz “dismissed articles in several newspapers this week asserting that Pentagon budget specialists put the cost of war and reconstruction at $60 billion to $95 billion in this fiscal year.” [NY Times, 2/28/03 ]

“In terms of the American taxpayers contribution, [$1.7 billion] is it for the US. The rest of the rebuilding of Iraq will be done by other countries and Iraqi oil revenues…The American part of this will be 1.7 billion. We have no plans for any further-on funding for this.” – USAID Director Andrew Natsios, 4/23/03

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There are plenty of critisms to be made on how the war has been handled and especially some of the statements that the admin has made. But the ideologues at the Center for American Progress take the art of spinning quotes to a whole new level. Nice cut-and-paste job, though.

Is it time to break out the Nazi / Fourth Reich idiocy yet?

RLTW



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I'm not sure the administration believed their own statements.

CAP? For all I know they could be a group devoted to the humane treatment of vegetables. Facts are facts. Do you take issue with any of the above statements?

Nazi/fungi/Jane Fonda - whatever. I would respond to your post but your dog has fleas, I don't like your garden, and I have nothing to say.

I asked about???? JFK,,,,,,LBJ,,,,,Clifton?????

The issue is, is it a prerequisite for a CIC to first send his own family to war before he sends anyone elses kids/// the answer is NO and the props=ition is fucking stupid./