And if the victim had never been born it wouldn't have happened.
Quite a flippant reply to some salient points you were responding to. I’m glad to see you followed up with the reply above to clarify and expand upon your opinions.
But first, back to your previous reply…
an innocent good Samaritan who at the moment he was shot nine times was unarmed, laying on his stomach, and not a threat to anyone.
Quite a powerful statement that can play on emotions. But it ignores some critical key facts. First of all, innocence or guilt has no bearing on an LEO making the decision to use lethal force. If police, while searching for a bank robber, come upon a man who draws a weapon, they don’t pause their decision process to decide if this man happens to be the correct suspect, whether the charges have been adhjucated or if he’s been charged yet. All that matters is that the officer facing this threat has split seconds to decide whether his life or the life of bystanders is in danger. Pointing out his “innocence” tugs at the heart strings, but it does not factor into what happened during the mere seconds from the time of initial confrontation to the police officer firing.
Now onto the second part of your statement
he was shot nine times was unarmed, laying on his stomach, and not a threat to anyone.
You fail to note that just mere seconds before he was armed, on his feet in a physical confrontation with officers, and a potential threat to those officers and bystanders. And the decision of the LEO to pull the trigger was a split second one. SCOTUS tends to give LEOs wide swath when it comes to split second decisions:
Key Principles
Totality of Circumstances: Courts must look at the entire context of the incident, not just the moment of shooting.
Reasonable Officer Perspective: The force is judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, acknowledging they often make split-second decisions in tense, uncertain circumstances.
Objective Test: The officer's subjective intentions do not matter, only whether their actions were objectively reasonable.
In your reply above, you asked why MAGA could support such awful practices. Conservatives would counter where were the protests and physical confrontations during the Obama administration, whose record of citizens arrests and deaths was much worse than under Trump.
Any error is serious, but 40 mistakes out of 595,000 arrests amounts to an error rate of just 0.0067% — roughly one wrongful detention for every 14,925 arrests.
Compare that with the final two years of President Barack Obama’s administration.
In fiscal years 2015 and 2016, ICE recorded 263 mistaken arrests, 54 mistaken detentions (book-ins), and four mistaken removals.
During those two years, ICE made a mere 239,645 arrests, meaning the 54 mistaken detentions alone produced an Obama error rate of 0.0225% — about one mistake for every 4,444 arrests.
Critics have complained that 32 people have died in ICE custody during the first year of Trump’s second term.
During the course of Obama’s two terms, from 2009 to 2017, 56 individuals died in ICE custody.
That administration didn’t publish clear detention totals, but the closest available figures show about 498,646 detentions and deportations over five fiscal years, an average of roughly 99,729 per year.
If that annual rate held throughout the entire administration, ICE processed about 797,834 individuals.
Under that estimate, 56 deaths translates into a rate of 0.007% — roughly one death for every 14,314 detainees.
By comparison, the rate last year under Trump was slightly lower: 0.0054%, or one death for every 18,594 detainees.
Both those figures are substantially below the average death rate for the detainee age group.
Stanage’s rant omitted one key data point: the number of Americans accidentally deported.
The reason for him not doing so is straightforward — none occurred.
That’s right, for all the tumult and fury, ICE under Trump made no erroneous deportations through November.
By contrast, ICE under Obama deported two US citizens in fiscal year 2015, and two more in fiscal year 2016.
What’s different now from then? Liberal politicians are bending the truth, protecting violent undocumented immigrants, and inciting a mob mentality among their followers.
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