In re to my subject heading, let me cite a recent example : the WORST person ever to grace this board was a laughable anti-American xenophobe named "Benlanger". This "person" was a
"philosophical bomb thrower" & a joke. Would inflame the board by starting in with laughable premises ( everything the U.S. & conservatives did was evil & wrong ). Fortunately, this prompted 99% here to throw "metaphorical vegetables" at this clown, & for whatever reason,
this cretin is no longer here. Rational debate was impossible with this jerk.

Now ( without naming names ) we have a right-wing version of "Benlanger" on the board. What ridiculous premises flow from the keyboard of this "enlightened" soul ? ALL labor unions, pro-choice advocates & liberals are evil & ruining this country. MORE ridiculous & ignorant philosophical premises. The equivalent of me saying NOTHING flawed with labor unions, abortions & liberalism. What's even more insidious is that this person ( & I'm serious about this ) has a rather troubling "bromance/mancrush" with someone with equally laughable philosophical premises.

All this leads me to say is that you CAN'T debate a person who is a ridiculous parody of the philosophical positions he/she is defending.

Below, you'll find a vintage video clip of persons from each side of the political spectrum making asses out of themselves; should be instructive to those who have never seen it :

instead of dismissing their arguments out of hand with cliches and insults?

       And I don't think anyone here seriously contends that "ALL labor unions, pro-choice advocates & liberals are evil & ruining this country," except possibly for dear TJ as to the liberals and she has not been around lately.

    Perhaps you are taking rhetoric too seriously?

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You decide from the following links offered by the "TER leather boy" cadre ; also interested in your opinion on the "Abortion OP" below.

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Since I condemned BOTH in that clip. Did you you Hear Buckley's response ?

TER "Leather boys" strike again !------

Btw, think you'll enjoy the following :

ducking the issue ( as he claims I do ) & lobbing  repeated & tired ad hominem attacks.

Snowjob, reserve that spot under the freeway overpass tonight------probably goona be cold---------

turns out he did it to Gore Vidal too! I've always appreciated the writings of both these guys. In my estimation, if the conservatives still had real intellectuals like Buckley behind them, this country would be a far better place.

Fair Use didn't write the poem.
 Perhaps FU decided not to waste his time,writing his own  poem,directed at  the unkempt comic book mind, of Pri.
Am I the only one, that doesn't read the comics Prissypuss loves to post.
 

http://istanbulstreets.wordpress.com/2008/12/21/red-tulip-festival-mevlana-looking-for-your-face/

From the beginning of my life
I have been looking for your face
but today I have seen it.

Today I have seen
the charm, the beauty,
the unfathomable grace
of the face
that I was looking for.

Today I have found you
and those that laughed
and scorned me yesterday
are sorry that they were not looking
as I did.

I am bewildered by the magnificence
of your beauty
and wish to see you with a hundred eyes.

My heart has burned with passion
and has searched forever
for this wondrous beauty
that I now behold.

I am ashamed
to call this love human
and afraid of God
to call it divine.

Your fragrant breath
like the morning breeze
has come to the stillness of the garden
You have breathed new life into me
I have become your sunshine
and also your shadow.

My soul is screaming in ecstasy
Every fiber of my being
is in love with you

Your effulgence
has lit a fire in my heart
and you have made radiant
for me
the earth and sky.

My arrow of love
has arrived at the target
I am in the house of mercy
and my heart
is a place of prayer.

I think you and Mein head the P & R Board class  in terms of coming up with original, creative phrases in your posts - at least I've never seen that one before.

You guys spend time in a Turkish Prison together ? Ever see "Midnight Express" ?-----ROFLMFAO !

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Persians can be found in Turkey however Jalal ad-Din ar Rumi, was likely not born in Turkey, though many Turks claim him as their native son.


http://www.poetseers.org/the_poetseers/rumi/bio/






-- Modified on 3/8/2011 6:54:24 PM

It took a few days.  I hope you like it.



   Looking For Your Face

   From the beginning of my life
   I have been looking for your face
   but today I have seen it

   Today I have seen
   the charm, the beauty,
   the unfathomable grace
   of the face
   that I was looking for

   Today I have found you
   and those who laughed
   and scorned me yesterday
   are sorry that they were not looking
   as I did

   I am bewildered by the magnificence
   of your beauty
   and wish to see you
   with a hundred eyes

   My heart has burned with passion
   and has searched forever
   for this wondrous beauty
   that I now behold

   I am ashamed
   to call this love human
   and afraid of God
   to call it divine

   Your fragrant breath
   like the morning breeze
   has come to the stillness of the garden
   You have breathed new life into me
   I have become your sunshine
   and also your shadow

   My soul is screaming in ecstasy
   Every fiber of my being
   is in love with you

   Your effulgence
   has lit a fire in my heart
   for me
   the earth and sky

   My arrow of love
   has arrived at the target
   I am in the house of mercy
   and my heart
   is a place of prayer

ROFLMAO......true fucking love ROFLMAO

The good news is, your poem is pretty funny and much better than Snowball's pitiful efforts.
The bad news is, it still sucks.

Who is saying that "ALL labor unions, pro-choice advocates & liberals are evil & ruining this country."?

been having to use the old Nazi argument because they are not intelligent enough to handle a debate...

They did it back then, Prap still does it today.

Weak, very Weak,,,

Oh, poor Pap...

You claim others do not post valid arguments, and yet you can not discredit them....

Oh, Poor Pap....

So mad at the world, unable to achieve so he must lash out at others...

Oh, Poor Pap.....

Still thinking he is making a difference, when he can't even better his own life...

Oh, Poor Pap....

Boy of little credibility, Boy of low self-esteem, Boy of shatted dreams and wanna be  

Oh, Poor Pap...    

I was just asking.

And that cartoon is boring and stupid.

Sucks is a new high standard around here.

Intellectuals punching each other in their *Lord's name in vain* face.  I preferred Chomsky when he was on the Hollywood Squares.

I can't believe Noam Chomsky was, or would have agreed to be on that show even in the unlikely event they wanted him.

You found "The most beautiful poem in the world."  That's what I entered into my search engine to find that poem.  Kudos!

Geeeez democrats are stupid.......?

Boy would I like to DEBATE that....LOL

In other words? please...be brief...LOL