I just had my first experience with a provider a few days ago. While the session was fun, something happened in the encounter has been bugging me. I hope the regulars in here can give this newbie some feedbacks.

I “talked” to the provider the day before via instant messages and email about her availability. She mentioned she can meet me in city A or city B. Since city A was about 40 min away from me versus B which was about 55 min away from me, I told her I prefer to meet her at city A. She said that’s fine and she will email me the instruction the next day about 3 hours before our appointment. Fast forward to the next day, I waited for about an hour for her email before I got kinda nervous and left her a voicemail. She called back a few minutes later and said she just got out of school and she would call me back in 20 min. she called back about 30 min later and told me to meet her at soandso motel, in city B. she apologized for the change of location but I told her it was fine. After I mapquested the directions, I jumped into my car and rushed to the motel. Just as I pulled into the parking area she arrived at the same time. After she gave me a nice hug and a sweet lil kiss, she apologized for running late and the logistic issues. I told her that wasn’t a big deal. Then she said since she was in such a rush she forgot to bring her credit card to cover for the motel room, and if I mind giving her the cash to cover for the room. I was a bit shocked because I didn’t expect to pay for the room, especially since I haven’t come across anything about it while I was researching different provider reviews. But I assume it’s normal so I asked her about how much does she need. She told me $80 so I handed her the cash.

After we go to the room I left the donation in an envelope on the dresser and we had a nice session. As were leaving the room I asked her “don’t you need to bring your stuff too?” she said she will be back later.

Now I am wondering if it’s normal for the client to pay for the room. I mean if she is outcalling to a motel close to me for my convenience and the room is just for me, it seems reasonable to me. But I had to travel to her and it seemed like the room will be used for her later appointments as well, shouldn’t she cover the room as part of her “operating expenses”? Was I supposed to deduct that out of the donation? I didn’t say anything during or after the session as I didn’t know what the “norm” is and I didn’t want to be tacky about it. I mean $80 is not a BIG deal, but I would like to know what the standard is so that next time I will know the total realistic cost for a session. Also I told her I am new to the hobby so in the back of my mind I am worry that I was being “suckered”

Thanks for reading my long rambling!

There really is no "normal" situation.  Each provider works differently from the next.  However, if a provider is going to use the room for the rest of the day on other appointments, it should be her responsibilty to pay for the room.  Many of the travelling providers will adjust their rates accordingly to compensate for the travel expenses.  Local ladies will often try to set up multiple clients to cover that cost as well.

But it all boils down to a simple understanding of who is paying for it up front.  If the question is asked in a courteous way, the lady should not take offense to it.  In a first meeting senario, many of the details should be cleared up without making the lady feel uncomfortable or suspicious, then repeat visits should be a breeze.  

The key for a successful provider is to give the client a perception of value.  If the client does not find the value, he will move on.  In your case, it seems like the provider left a bit of an uneasy feel to you from the money standpoint.  Yes, she got an extra 80.00 for that session, but are you willing to return?  That's your call.  It's like any other business.

"I forgot my credit card" would set off my bullshit detector, for two reasons: 1) who really forgets their credit card and related stuff?  That's like a 19-year-old who goes to a bar and "forgot" to bring their ID.  Uh huh.  2) Many hotels want your credit card on file even if you pay cash, for incidentals, or in case you trash the joint, etc.

If she kept the room and is using it for other purposes, then that's an incall situation and the expense is hers.  Now that doesn't mean she can't pass the expense on to you, but she should have included it in her rate instead of tacking it on as a separate item.

The situation you describe is not typical, in my experience.  I think you got suckered.  But like you said, it's only $80.  Don't let it get you down or be bitter, just learn from it and make sure terms are agreed upon in advance.  Once you've already put some investment into it (travel time, in this scenario), you're open to manipulation.  And once you've met the girl in person, brain is impaired.  Decisions about money must be set in stone by that point, unless you are one cool dude or just don't care about money.

This is how it works; If its an OUTCALL, the girl comes to my home or apartment or ROOM I provide.

If she has an INCALL location she usually has already paid for the room and is seeing more than one client. Because she is either traveling or has many appointments.

But it is something you need to discuss with the provider before hand unless you are picking up someone on the street. Its is RARE that you would ever go to the counter of a hotel with your provider and then pay togeather. Totally unprofessional in their eyes.

So remember the difference between OUTCALL and INCALL and if you need OUTCALL but are married or have a girlfriend or live in roomate or faimly then YOU get the room, If she offers INCALL, she ALMOST ALWAYS HAS A ROOM OR NICE PlACE to meet.

BUT ASK, what happened is awkward and a really good way to get busted. ALSO most girls would be HORRIFIED if that happened. THey want to be discreet and stealth and going to the counter of some motel is like "crackwhore" status.

Ok So OUTCALL and INCALL you got it right bud? and if you forget or are confused ASK before hand.

But dont start nickel and dimeing her that's a great way for a provider to say forget it, she is NOT a used car you cant hustle her down.

So if you want to see a NiCE independent girl and its OUTCALL only...then you are responsible for her "donation rate" , the room and accordingly a tip depending on how you felt the session went.

Check out Expedia, and Priceline, You can get 3,4 and 5 star hotels for a HUGE discount. THAT HELPS. Trust me. sometimes you may get lucky the girls may agree to meet you at a "seedy" one for like a "fantasy" type session. That saves money but you better pony up on her fee .....

Word travels fast if you are a good client....it can eventually lead to lots of perks, discounts,extratime....personal relationships....inside info....

But when in doubt ask, no one will laugh we were all knew once man.

-T

thanks for the reply. i guess next time i will ask upfront to avoid the confusion.

thanks for the reply. I would like to point out that I know the difference between incall and outcall, after reading up lots of posts here. We have agreed on a fee that was the same as her listed incall price. that's why I assumed she will provide the place. not to mention I drove almost an hr each way to see her.

after i gave her the cash to her in the parking lot, she went to the front desk and paid for the room by herself. then she came back to get me so it wasnt like she and I went to the counter together.

oh and I wasn't trying to nickel and dime the girl. She gave me a good session and I treated her like a gentleman.

i guess i was just a lil shocked when I only expected to pay the all inclusive incall fee.

Next time I will remember that ass-u-me is bad!

That I deducted the $80 I gave her outside from the envelope.  That way the total amount paid to her was her total fee.  If nicely said, she would realize that the amount was paid to her in two stages.

Since it was considered incall, you should not have to pay for the room at all, that is her costs and should be absorbed by her.

My bad, I didnt know you knew the difference. Yes, it was her error if she says Incall thats her job to have an incall, not ask for extra donations at all.

Didnt realize the rest of the story. My bad.

Next time at least you know to ask if she is already in her incall location of if she has to "go" to it.

Dont worry we all learn the hard way with many things.

My bad, man. Sorry.

The minute she "ASKED" for cash would have sent me a runnin....I would have thought her to be LE.