As the title states, this is my first attempt at seriously seeking out a provider.  I'm a complete newbie when it comes to this.  I have occasionally browsed listings in my area through eros, but it wasn't until just a few days ago that I began to seriously consider booking an actual appointment.  I came across the listing of a gorgeous girl that I hadn't seen listed there before.  I was instantly intrigued when I saw that she was coming to my area for a short stay next month.  I'm very excited at the thought of booking an appointment with her.

The main problem for me is that she appears to be quite diligent in regards to verifying references and such.  I do not have any.  I have done my own research into the various reference providers she prefers, but I don't necessarily expect to make this a routine for me.  Maybe something once a year as a sort of belated birthday present.  As such I don't necessarily see the value in a P411 reference.  I totally understand that providers use them to keep things safe for themselves, but for me it's a slight problem.  The other bit is an employment verification.  I am self employed as a webmaster.  I have a idea on how my provider could verify who I say I am, but not sure she'll accept that.

I've sent her an email through her personal site as well as through her email provided on eros, but I have not heard back yet.  Not sure if she may have dumped them into her spam box.  It is a bit disappointing though to log in to my email and not see a reply from her  I kept things simple and explained my situation. Like, "first time looking for companion," looking to book an appointment while you're in _____."  I also explained my lack of references, but provided some personal information, as well as a way for her to validate said information I provided.  Again, not heard back from her though.  Was also wondering how early I should expect a provider to respond.

Apologize for posting some probably super standard newbie stuff, but I appreciate the help!

Women are not like a webmaster (in your case) or a systems administrator (in my case) in that they don't all live online and in their email. For me if you email me you get an answer within a minute. For a woman it can take days.

That said I suggest you rethink the value you see in p411. As well as the limited value I assume you see in a paid account here. It is worth more then the money invested to get the info that TEr can give you and it is worth your money invested in p411 to have SOME form of standardized reference you provide. She may be ok with a scanned copy of your drivers license, or with a brief casual meeting first. Every girl is different.

Hehe, you're 100% right. I guess I am just super anxious awaiting a response  I have actually strongly considered the TER VIP membership.  The provider I'm interested in has maybe 2 dozen reviews here and it would be nice to read about the full experience she can provide.

I'm just hesitant about paying a full 130 for something like P411.  If possible I'd prefer to use that money for another hour or so with my provider  Like I said in my op, I also don't expect to be doing this too often.  With TER VIP I could pay the 30 when I need to and read up on the providers I'm interested in.  So for me personally I definitely see the value a VIP membership has.  

Anyways, thanks for the advice and such a quick response mate.  Cheers

I am always amused at hobbyists who enter the hobby with the intent of making it a "recreational treat". Maybe they'll hobby once a year when the whim hits.

Let me give you a dose of reality. NOBODY (especially after their first experience) hobbys on a once a year basis. NOT A CHANCE IN THE WORLD. There is no way you will hobby, pay $300-$500 for an hour, have that lady rock your world sexually and do things you didnt even think were possible, and then NOT hobby again for another year. Doesnt work that way. You will be so pumped at the experience that you cant wait to repeat. Conversely, if the experience wasnt what you wanted it to be, you will be so angered that you wasted the money, that you will immediately look for a second encounter..Thus the cycle begins anew. Once you start, it takes YEARS to get out (and most of don't want to get out anyway ) Be VERY VERY prepared to make hobbying a part of your life. Make sure its something you really want.

On the issue of references. It doesnt matter what information you want to give a lady. It only matters what information the lady deems necessary in order for her to be comfortable seeing you. You have no provider references and are self employed and don't want to join a verification site. Ask yourself, if you were a provider would you see Mr. Tennis based on receiving an E-mail from him, with no provider references attached nor any employment information? Of course not. You say you provided her with  some personal information? If she is concerned about appropriately sceening (which I hope she is), I cant imagine what personal information you possibly provided for validation (I am sure it reveals nothing about your identity). I doubt its going to be enough to make her want to see you. You have to TRUST the lady to some degree. After all, you are asking her to TRUST you in setting up an appointment and ultimately being intimate with a complete stranger. If you are not willing to have that trust with EVERY (and I mean EVERY) lady you wish to see, than you can't hobby. It's that simple.

As far as the amount of time it takes to receive a repsonse from a lady, the situation varies greatly. Some ladies may respond immediately. Others may take days. Understand that the ladies have "a life" outside of the hobby world. They do not just sit at a computer 24/7 waiting for E-mails. Also, in your case, the provider may not be newbie friendly, or she is not taking any new clients at this time, so she may have just ignored your E-mail completely. Part of the pitfalls of hobbying. You can send her a follow E-mail up but beyond that there is not much you can do.



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You may say once a year. But if you have a good time I think you may find time and money to do it a little more often. It is rather addicting.

TER VIP membership doesn't count as verification (just making sure that's clear).. all that means is you have a credit card

Personally I don't intend to make use of provider services much more than you do (once or twice a year), but I decided to go the employment verification route though date-check with a lifetime membership (didn't want to pay year after year).   .. Even then without provider references on date-check I also found I had to do additional verification (also employment) with one of the providers I'm planning on seeing in March.

Also similar situation to you.. I am my employer .. it made things a little complicated.  And, as a relatively new company without a published phone number (your web site doesn't count)... also made it a bit difficult

Thanks for the response, glad I could amuse you  It's just how I feel at the moment. Obviously those feelings about keeping it a not too frequent hobby may completely change if I go through and have my first experience with a provider.  

Being a webmaster, my verification idea was this.  I provided one of the websites I operate.  I also provided a link to GoDaddy's whois domain search.  Simply punch in the domain name and search as a ".com" address.  The results would pull up my information for her to validate what I had provided already.  That was what I suggested anyway.  

According to her personal site she is taking new clients.  Again, I think I'm just very anxious waiting for an email reply to arrive.  We'll see what happens.

First ,if she is THAT known & has quality reviews, with all your assurances aside ..I cant think of one compelling reason for her to take unneeded risk.
In most instances she gets multiple requests daily that fulfill her requirements...I get that your wanting this and of course like many on here ,rules should not apply to you for what ever reason that makes your circumstances *special*  just sayin....

If a guy has no references and no P411, I ask him for a photo of himself holding his driver's license, business card/pay stub, and a handwritten note with my name and the date on it. I tell him that he can put tape or whatever over his SSN and address where they appear. Sometimes I require links to social networking sites as well.

With how insane technology is these days, I just don't trust the work verification method.

Keep in mind, though, every lady has different policies.

One more thing, be careful about emailing through multiple outlets. It can be seen as pushy.

Thanks for the response.  Maybe the provider I'm interested in booking would consider this option.  Still anxiously waiting to hear a response from her.

The reason I sent a 2nd message was the fact that I was unsure if the message I tried sending through her personal site went through.  At first I received an error message but apparently it went through on the 2nd time.

He never said rules should not apply to him. Why be needlessly negative? He is only looking for a way to provide verification within the limits of his employment, lack of prior experience, and preference not to buy p411. Granted in the end he will probably have to get p411 verified but still no reason to act as though he is looking for special treatment and just doesn't want to give his info.

You make me wish I was visiting Cincinnati some time soon. I always like your posts and you just seem like a really intelligent woman. Nothing more attractive then what is behind the eyes.

While you... in your infinite knowledge  and being "all knowing" of EXACTLY who this Op is. I do apologize if in my use of  the  word" rules " perhaps  "suggestions" would  of appeased thee....
I on the other hand .. knowing absolutely nothing more than was offered  by Op, find he could just as easily be LE as he could be legit, Furthermore seeking out someone that in his own words"he has researched her acceptable provider references" & he offers up not 1 ,not 2 but 3 *special circumstances*.
 Also Mr. GOD, how is it that all your reviews are not 10's? just saying...

Hey now, show some respect please.  He was courteous in his replies to my thread and I very much appreciate it.  What I suggested to the provider was a whois domain search of one my websites, which I provided for her.  Registered to the domain is my name, phone number, and address.  I think that's about even with what most reference providers look for.  When I sent my initial message to her, I mentioned that I wasn't even sure what these references were.  I don't know how anyone new to "hobbying" would.  Since then I've found this site and others such as P411 and have figured that stuff out.  

Anyway... on her eros listing she states "At least I do accept business information."  Maybe things will go ahead if she believes that my information checks out.

Also, I'm not trying to sound like someone that expects all the usual rules to be bent for me.  I apologize if I came across that way.

I'm still relatively new at this and think I can relieve some of your worries. Everyone has a first time so that means everyone who hasn't got verification from another provider gets seen. On P411 look for ladies who say they are newbie-friendly. My first time was with a well-reviewed lady who emailed that she was acceoting new clients. Yes they have to protect themselves but remember they also are entrepreneurs running a business. So if you really are a decent person someone will say yes.

As for providers responding to emails, I've only had one not respond. But she hadn't been reviewed in a long time and hasn't been since, so I think she's gone from the biz. Sometimes you have to wait and that is suspenseful. As others posted not every lady sits by her computer. And remember she might be spending time with clients. You won't want her emailing or texting when she's spending time with you. And I had one lady tell me she never responds to emails while she's in a hotel using its WiFi. Extra careful, but there it is.

So enjoy this. It really is fun. Maybe you will only go once a year. My guess is not.

If she doesn't respond, move on.

Otherwise, she might just be thinking you're a stalker.

Hey NOW, I hope it goes well for you, but your initial post said you were aware of p411.If she states that ,then you might be able to provide what she needs.
But it seems most everyday a post is put up here  not wanting to throw few coins to ter, or to try to get knowledge from those of US that follow rules,guidelines,suggestions or whatever word GOD thinks appropriate.
Now my original  post addressed what you stated and I tried to give you knowledge & insight as to why she might not respond to your attempts.
If GOD found that negative then GOD could PM me to discuss it!I think I've been here long enough to know that, but guess that's something even GOD seems to not know(in his 6 months here)

I strongly suggest that you join the RS2K verification site and once approved, provide the pertinent info. to that provider, which would be your name, city and state on license, and phone number you would be contacting her from.  Most women will see you if you belong to that site since they do thorough checking on RS2K to make sure you are legit and safe and that site is very well respected and has been around for quite some time. Not sure of the fee to join, but I think it may be around $50.  

I am not a professional reviewer as it appears you are. I apologize if in my limited experience I have not seen as many ladies deserving of lower scores as you have. The women I have seen have been exceptional and I have scored them accordingly. I invite you to contact any of the ladies directly though and inform them of you think them unworthy of my praise. Good luck with that.

You didn't. He just must have come from one of his sessions that don't rate a 10 again and is frustrated. Dont take it personally. I don't.

Sometimes criticism hurts dude. If you can't take it don't give it out. My post to you was nicer to you then you were to the OP. Yet he didn't implode over it.

Yes, she has a number listed on both her eros listing and her profile here.  Number matches so that's good.  I think I'll wait another day or two before trying to call though.  More time for her to read through her messages if she hasn't seen mine yet.  Would also still have about a week then to sort out an appointment during her visit to my nearby city.

I appreciate the advice everyone.  I think I would definitely be okay with dealing with a reference provider if I heard back from her first.  I just don't want to go through the process of getting a reference only to end up not being able to see this provider anyway.  As I mentioned in my op, I've thought about this before, but she's the first I've seen to get me seriously considering booking an appointment.  If nothing happens with this I may not even get into the hobby at all.

Hmm.  So turns out the provider whom I'd like to see has a post in the ad board for my city.  Would it be proper to reply with my interest in an appointment with her there?  I was guessing no as I don't see any public replies to any of the ad board threads.

It's not a waste to have a reference, so I don't understand that reasoning.

There's no paperwork or process involved.  You simply ask the girl you see if she will serve as a reference going forward.  Simple.

If she requires references and you don't have them, then simply ask her what other things you could provide for her to screen you, and see if both of you are okay with that.  Frequently this means your real name, your work information, and a few other things.

You are way overthinking this.  This doesn't have to be as complicated and formal as you make it out to be.

Aww how nice! Thank you so much.

Maybe I'm confusing the online references and verification providers.  I meant that if I would have no trouble going through the sites such as roomservice2000 or datecheck if it meant that she would be willing to see me.  But like mentioned I haven't heard back from her yet.

I'm going to try giving her a call on Monday.  Advice on how to go about that? Do I just call up and say I was looking to book an appointment with you while you're in _________ next week," and go from there?

Sorry, I'm still a bit nervous about some of this.  I do appreciate all of the advice though.

Call her up.  Say that you saw her ad or website and that you are interested in booking.  Tell her a little bit about yourself, and ask her what she needs on your end to get comfortable to book an appointment.

Simple.

Okay, will do!  Thanks for the advice and being friendly in your response. As mentioned, I will give her a call on Monday and see what happens.

No, don't do that. You've already contacted her through two venues.