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Waterclone 78 Reviews 570 reads
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I appreciate your kind words, but I guaranty that I am not the only guy who thinks this way.  I just happened to be the one who was online at the right time to reply

bridgetteofnyc1703 reads

I booked a nice incall today for a date, but he cancelled at the last minute!  Does anyone have advice for avoiding this in the future/not being out the price of the incall today?

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Waterclone855 reads

Best advice...

Don't book a hotel for just 1 appointment unless he is a known, regular customer that you know won't flake.

Have a cancellation policy.  Cancel with x amount of time of the appointment, and you have to pay 50% or something like that.

Require a deposit sent to you in advance before booking a hotel or travel.  Some guys won't pay a deposit, but sometimes you have to do it.

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Pavliena738 reads

For this post  
 MR WaterClone has to get free FFFFFFFFFFFFFM  session:)

Just for sake that ONLY one male here  emphasized  with girl problem .. and   displayed that he treat women here fairly.

We women .. we are still women .. and we gave to such on one million even he gave us just 1000 :)

Gentlemen please remember that  
One drop of silver cleans all dirt in water .

and you are this drop  
I think  Mr WaterClone  

why  Iam soo appreciative for his post ?
Because I often wonder  who are American males ??
 eve I am in country more then 10 years I still do not know you and you I think do not know me  
 what can be known in one or 2 hours ??
  but when someone posts like that I gives me idea that I need to BELIEVE  in the best in our man ..
 and not all as i Lovely Pig woman by Martti Larni ..  but .. it is .. it has to be "Bible book " on female 's desk  
sorry for bringing it up  this book but this Martti Larni  even lived in Wisconsin few years  yet he is not known  to  American reader



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Waterclone571 reads

I appreciate your kind words, but I guaranty that I am not the only guy who thinks this way.  I just happened to be the one who was online at the right time to reply

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Pavliena643 reads

word to support this girl and  give  her OWN opinion, advice .. which also emphasize  with  women's problems here ..
 may eb they think that way - but no one  said a word ..  
 why ?
- those who think as you are rare post here  or what ?
 
Gentlemen  tell here yes that we women MUST take a deposit and  have cancelation policy :)  
 hmmmm.. not in interests of average hobbyists  a ??
 
so I just pointed I guess you are  not an average .. and you know we women .. have brains .. dispute of common believe   of  some males ..
 and we separate  man NOT just by $$$ amount they can to donate ..  

 so nice gentlemen normally receiving  more   then those who are on  menu services   etc so then  yes .. time is ticking  
 but such as you are .. I bet  women love you a ??

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inicky46562 reads

Right, as usual, WC.  What the lady fails to realize is, many gents simply don't post.  Here or anywhere.  Many just do not want a board presence, for reasons that lately have become more obvious than ever. But that does not mean they don't exist. One simply cannot accurately generalize the way Serafima did, which you were too gentlemanly to point out.

Posted By: Waterclone
I appreciate your kind words, but I guaranty that I am not the only guy who thinks this way.  I just happened to be the one who was online at the right time to reply.  
   
 

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Pavliena545 reads

Prove me I am wrong about those who mostly active here  
I want  make a point of WHY I still am posting  
  who know who said that yes ?
 “If we are not inspired to lead again, one of two things will happen. Either no one will lead and there will be chaos, or someone will fill the vacuum who does not share our values,” Rice said. “My fellow Americans, we cannot be reluctant to lead and you cannot lead from behind."
 so you can not   to remove yourself  from making a healthy nice   climate on board
 hiding form presence and expect  to make right choices  even about companions .  so
I call to all nice people to fill this vacuum  and yes it was vacuum form gentlemen side  onlu one said cie thing yes  I know others are out there but   yes they are   hiding ..and I suppose by reasons of  same as I fell sometime - what to talk about ?? to WHOM to talk about ?? any way it is just a ... adult board .. but!!  
IT IS OUR world and ONLY here we can be as we are .. even in families we are not mostly many of us still wear masks and in families .. so nice men do not talk yet want meet nice woman .. nice  women get bulled  and stop talk  or talk JUST to women  to each other ..
vacuum ..in area of  most private most sensual  need - where in order to   release yourself you have to set yourself  in right mood  with right person .
 Why  those nice removed yourself  from presence on boards ??
I think I know -  little of reespect as min and as max just totall disrespect to  counterparts  here on board  
 to those who posting a lot .. I need admit .. I am sinful in such snobby attitudes   as well   same as  you are gentlemen .

We afraid of those who are active here . it should not be that way t all
I not meeting men from boards  if  you take look at my reviews there be just 3-4 I met of those nice men who still not removed themselves totally form presence  
I may see how you will afraid me as well - so I post a lot .
Do not be . Do not beat me up .
I just trying fill in  vacuum  classy vaccum which  can be  seen on this board.
and it is not women's fault - see again on her post was JUST ONE man RESPONded !!
 so it was vacuum  and it is why I   jumped and said gentlemanly word to men.
 So do not tell please Serafima generalized again  bad Serafima   I just want fill in and promote  those  who are hiding out there  to post more often  so it be better board  
Iam a catalyst .. you know that it os freeing energy ??
I not met many of you may be nice once as well because you are all hiding and in states it seems you have to hide deeply to be discovered .. but .. but do we have  righ on mistake here // when you man donate over 1000 and you girls open door to stranger   .. ?
 better  be present and known  I do such  and I wish more nice man be willing too as well  



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inicky46536 reads

1) Sorry, but I have little interest in "making this a better" board, unless that means posting when and if I feel I have something useful to say.  I thought WC's advice was good and felt no need to add to it.  Sometimes it's just that simple.
2) I have no "desire to lead" here.  Why would I? It's a hooker/john board.  Let's not over-think it.  Most people who read these boards are lurkers, which they have every right to be.  Telling people to post more won't have any affect.  Just post what you want and leave it at that.
'Kay?
PS: I love Gogol.  Also Chagall, a distant relative.

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Pavliena539 reads

I was thinking we are  adult companions here ..

 yes WC post was good and you as man  do not feel need to add  
 and I m as a woman more emotional and felt need to post  him bravo because yes you admitted it is hooker johns board.. and you know many of gentleman who see us- woman never  will see hookers
but yet still need adult companion and  be with hetaers
 In ancient Greece, hetaerae were courtesans—highly educated, sophisticated companions. Although most engaged in sexual relations with their patrons, hetaerae were not simple prostitutes  
 and do not like be called johns and as a result they  orginise  dates a bit different .,, having different a bit needs  
. yet  they do use TER as to read reviews and see pics .. and they do not afaraid to be a bit more  complicated  in needs then be just simple john ....
Not many comfortable with word hooker at all  and yes word hooker implies itself  low level of social ladder ..
not everybody is ok with such women ...
as to  what you said - you do not want to lead on john hooker board ..  yes I understand and I am sory that I still not accepted this jonh hooker mentality I guess I never will  and I  always want just   be n place where I feel safe and can breathe talk and be heard .. we meeting here for the most intimate actions .. how we can sink to down to hooker.john vocabulary  
?
it is a reason why adult activities in states are prohibited and are illegal only if we adult will  raise above those hooker jonh mentality ourselves may be we  be heard and accpeted .. but what to say about rest society if we are OURSELVES  feel as hookers and johns ?? Iam not a hooker and may be it is a reason that I met just few here ..  
Ok any way thank you for your input  I stuill learning about TER and am hopeless romantic and believer that  in the beauty  of human souls and minds and bodies  and that it is all UP TO US adults what kind life we live or john and hookers or intimate adult companions living our fantasies :) thank you dear  
it was interesting for me to realize it one more time about hooker johns Madonna slut  american ways .. but I love myself too much to call myself simple hooker .
may be I will move back to Europe  and be just a hetaera  coming to  NYC  for winter months. .. if there anybody feels as I am or ladies or gentlemen welcome to talk .Iam not  here for $$$$ purpose I do not need your money I need your ... hmmmm... if I say dick ..I be wrong .. I need just soul alive .. not so simple but fan  for 2 - 3 or more hours  

 
 when I made reference about filling  vacuum here intellectual vacuum.. it was just a need of normal woman not a hooker it is self surviving thing -  to  be in safe clean place  with people who are like minded.. so .. am I  here with hookers and johns ?? really ??  can not believe .. NOOOO!!!!
 we are just kinky free adults  a ?? many well educated  well travelled with real life  and above average needs sex  that all ..
 sorry .. may be it is why I rated always  10 ? because I do  talk and see those who think as I am ...
but I appreciate your spartan post - you posted  brief and clear .. you have males mind  so .. i see where you coming from  
 but I need tell you you are more snobby then I am - you do not gave right to those people here be normal onces  
 and trust me we are all .. just from normal life  are we ?



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Vpexperience619 reads

attempt collecting a deposit next time

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LunaNYC767 reads

then tell him that he needs to give you a 50% deposit first, since he cancelled on you before. You should make some sort of policy so that doesn't happen.

I'm sorry that happens, it's really annoying to spend all this money on a nice room and have someone cancel.

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OLIVIA LAROUX814 reads

Hate to see a sexy hotel room and a lovely lady go to waste!

you could try to post here on TER that you're available tonight.
Could post a cheap backpage ad also.

all clients interested must screen via P411 with at least 2 Okays on site....  
P411 makes for more simple screening, and the only way that I personally accept same-day appointments

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Waterclone493 reads

Sadly, they are often not accurate.  Some of the Eros ads have had the available now stamp running 24/7 for ages.  I don't think Citivibe is any better.  

Some of the ads, amusingly enough, say they don't accept appointments without advance notice.  I think it's funny to list yourself as available now if you won't take a last minute appointment.

I have always thought it would be a great idea to create a reverse escort service that the ladies could call up and say "send me a client".  :-)  Realistically, it would just be a mailing list of pre-verified guys who signed up because they can sometimes be available last minute.

Women who find themselves with a hotel room and no client could contact the list and offer up a "save me from paying for this hotel" discount.  The willing guys would all get an email or text message with a link to the girls ad and contact info, so they could decide if she was their type, and maybe make the call.  There would be no guaranty, of course, but it would be something.  

It would be better than posting here, because sometimes people only log in here once a day.  Also, if they still have the rule about posting 1 ad a week, then if the girl had posted an ad a few days earlier, then she wouldn't be allowed to post such an available now ad.

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MochaNautteBBW650 reads

I've had this happen to me twice in the past 7 years I've been providing. Both guys NCNS'ed on me and tried booking me again, but I told them that due to them both NCNS'ing, I would not see them.

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roseman1581 reads

Twice in the last year I booked appointments with TER reviewed providers, spoke with them on the phone, confirmed the time and place and upon arrival at the parking lot phoned for the room number.  No response.  No callback.  No nothing.  The last provider 'no show, no response' was this month and I followed up later in the day with a one word text, 'Why?'  I never heard back

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Waterclone564 reads

NCNS is always disrespectful.  If you go to a girls hotel parking lot and now you can't reach her, you have absolutely wasted time and possibly money to get there.  The girl should either make it up to you, or you would be within your rights to post that she did a NCNS.

However, that's nothing compared to what a girl loses when a guy does a NCNS.  In this case, she paid for a hotel room in Manhattan.  That's a couple hundred bucks, out of her pocket.  She also might have turned down appointments from other potential customers, so not only is she losing the money for the hotel room, but she is losing the potential income from someone else.  This NCNS could have cost her $600, or more.

Obviously, that also runs both ways.  Guys have gotten hotel rooms and been NCNS'd as well.  it's always a bad thing.  But in one case it's an annoying inconvenience, and in another case it's a financial burden.

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London Rayne525 reads

You actually SAVE money when a provider does it to you, not that it is any better of course, but get real. Our expense is always more than yours. You were going to spend that money anyway for some ass, now you have it saved. Does not work that way for us, I am afraid. We are not only out of the date money, but now DOWN on the hotel cost. I simply don't deal with guys who operate that way and a deposit insures at least the hassle is covered.

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Waterclone557 reads

I can't easily hobby in the evenings.  It's much easier for me to skip out of work for a few hours than to be missing from home.  While it's OK for me to leave work for a while, it is reflected in my timecard.  I am losing a few hours pay every time I see a girl during the day.

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London Rayne571 reads

I feel for you ladies who have to use hotels, because this always seems to be an issue. I would advise him you are going to DNS his stupid ass for not even covering the cost, which a gentleman would certainly do. This is why so many providers are now doing away with short calls, and they require a deposit. Hotels in your area are not exactly a hundred bucks, so I would tell him to either make it right, or suffer the consequences. It might not be his fault he cancelled, but he damn well knew you had to book this place ONLY for him.

See if there are any local ladies that you can share an apartment with, only for this business. That is what I have always done, and avoided this problem. We paid x amount per month anyway, so the cost was just a business expense, not something we were out of depending on only one client. Bottom line...most of them do not give two shits about you or the money you lose. I would get the word out.

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Pavliena519 reads

even safety with such man  

 who did not care about you  

 



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MidAgedCEO625 reads

Notice how she wants you to find ANOTHER girl that will let you use her apartment for illicit activities.

Notice how she say she looks for other ladies that is willing to let her use their apartment for her illicit activities.

Apparently she wants you to find suckers ladies who would be willing to risk even more by bringing strange activities to a place where neighbors do notice the foot traffic.

Nothing better then having a client know the address of where you work from..  Oh and lets not forget any client can just call up the landlord of the building and report you, if he is in the mood to do such a thing.

The apartment you are renting has you NAME, DOB, SOCIAL SECURITY, CREDIT INFO, etc etc.   One wrong move/client will bring holy heLL on you.  

And you can screen to your hearts delight, but when good guys go bad...well......

Oh and if you guys are smart and want freebies just extort girls who are working out of their apartments, or ratting them out..  Nothing better then telling the UPS/FEDEX guy who works the area what apartment have escorts in them.  Or threatening to call up the landlord or super of the building...

Listening to London may be the dumbest move you make

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JustAGal582 reads

There are at least 5-6 ladies that use the one I used when I needed something for 1 - 2 hours.  All are well reviewed, well known low volume NYC companions. So each may have had 1 - 3 appointments a week there.



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