Minnesota

Typical response: Revert to name calling.
TalonTed 92 Reviews 5543 reads
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1 / 61

Just wondering if TER is under new management? Been on her for few years, but never seen so many force closed.  I say what I want and as truthfully as I know it.  If TER ever bans me, the economic impact on the Bloomington hos will be devastated and their children will go hungry. Feed My Starving Children will have to divert a shipment or two to Bloomington instead of going to Africa

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 689 reads
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2 / 61

We've always been vocal. So maybe it's the argumentative side coming out more recently that's causing the increase in closures.

I personally can't say much about the Bloomington economy these days but I do see lots of smiling mamas and well-fed kids there, especially among the asian and white ladies.
Posted By: talon199094
Just wondering if TER is under new management? Been on her for few years, but never seen so many force closed.  I say what I want and as truthfully as I know it.  If TER ever bans me, the economic impact on the Bloomington hos will be devastated and their children will go hungry. Feed My Starving Children will have to divert a shipment or two to Bloomington instead of going to Africa.  
   
 

funman1969 9 Reviews 546 reads
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3 / 61

To increase profit margin to WK and thin skinned  . Any body have a fog machine  for sale  they will be needing a new one soon im sure. Old ones been worked wayyyyy to hard

knotsaway 38 Reviews 682 reads
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4 / 61

... involving the majority of the closed threads on the last two pages.  Can you find it?

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 544 reads
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5 / 61

You replied?

You complained to TER?

They talked about sex?  
Didn't talk about sex?

They were long?

TER closed them for no reason?

Those threads served no real purpose?

I give up but I'm sure you'll tell all of us. Thanks.
Posted By: knotsaway
... involving the majority of the closed threads on the last two pages.  Can you find it?  

loveyourtouch 526 reads
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6 / 61

A few guys with real balls tell it like it is on the board. Thin-skinned, politically correct WKs and their damsels protest to TER behind the scenes.  Pretty easy to see that?

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 460 reads
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7 / 61

Damn, can't see the forest for the trees.  

Yeah, that was my first thought, 2nd thought, 3rd...last, and only thought.  

But I wanted to keep an open mind and decided to give Knots the benefit of the doubt.
Posted By: loveyourtouch
A few guys with real balls tell it like it is on the board. Thin-skinned, politically correct WKs and their damsels protest to TER behind the scenes.  Pretty easy to see that?  

souls_harbor 345 reads
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9 / 61

You're legends!  (in your own minds.)

Posted By: loveyourtouch
A few guys with real balls tell it like it is on the board. Thin-skinned, politically correct WKs and their damsels protest to TER behind the scenes.  Pretty easy to see that?  

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 353 reads
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11 / 61

Is the only pattern we'll see.

He'll never reply so we have to answer his questions for the audience.

loveyourtouch 438 reads
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12 / 61

Ever called  you a legend.  And if I told you what you are, you'd cry like a baby to TER and beg to ban me and remove the thread.  Do you have a safe space at home where you can go after you read the TER board?

loveyourtouch 423 reads
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13 / 61

Talk about content and what us being written.....  you make it a personal attack by directing your pitiful attempt at insult to us personally.  So who is really the ttoll?  I am not bothered though.  I will not cry to TER.  In fact, I would beg them to keep it because it shows who you are. Just remember this in the future . ....   I can play that game too.  Can you handle it?

Wongbater 40 Reviews 329 reads
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14 / 61
vorlon 119 Reviews 475 reads
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15 / 61

Consider this from TER's message board guidelines

TER has always welcomed vigorous debate of ideas and opinions in its Discussion Boards, and encourages freedom of expression. However, it is expected that civility in discourse will be maintained.  TER Staff and Moderators will exercise their discretion in managing the flow of discussion and in applying these Guidelines. TER reserves the right to delete any posting that violates these Guidelines, TER’s Terms of Use, or, which TER determines, in its sole discretion, is inappropriate.

Criticizing ideas and opinions is a normal process of debate, and anyone that posts an opinion should expect to have ideas challenged in a respectful manner. However, consider that informative, interesting and well written posts can be valuable, even if you take issue with the poster’s views.

Insults, personal attacks, name calling or intimidation have no place in civil discussions and are not welcome on TER. Ever.

Adhere to the same standards of behavior online that you are expected to maintain offline. If you wouldn’t make the comment to someone’s face, reconsider whether you should make it on TER.

Above all else, keep TER a safe, informative and interesting environment that encourages everyone to participate.
It's easy to see that if TER really enforced this policy, probably well over half the recent threads and posts would be gone.  It's not about suppressing speech as some would have you believe.  It's about people who regularly and deliberately choose to be obnoxious.  There are a few main offenders.  The proof lies in multiple threads on this page alone as well as many other threads going back some months now.  Don't like having threads closed or removed or posts removed?  Don't be PITA's.

-- Modified on 11/27/2016 12:11:35 AM

-- Modified on 11/27/2016 12:11:53 AM

loveyourtouch 491 reads
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16 / 61

the first paragraph as gospel when it is very subjective.  You see, vorlon, when discretion is involved, so is subjectivity. It's not black and white.

BUT...  you seem to have completely overlooked the second paragraph.  Perhaps you should read and re-read that one a few times.

As to the third paragraph. I've been called names many times by WKs.  Had my name intentionally misspelled, been called a troll and worse.  But never once did I feel the need to go to TER and cry.

You see, YOU think YOU and other WKs should be sole arbiters of this board.  You think ONLY YOU know what should and shouldn't be discussed and know how it should be discussed.  TER has moderators, and obviously they don't agree with your assessment that many. many more threads should be removed.  That is just you wishing for censorship.  The judges (TER) have ruled against you.  You are wrong.  Get over it.  The very fact that they have not removed all the threads you want them to is proof.

So who is the PITA?  And there YOU go again....  calling people with differing points of view names. (You violated paragraph 3.) Typical tactic.  But we will not cry foul.  Instead, we will silently rejoice knowing we have been vindicated by the very rules you espouse but break.

knotsaway 38 Reviews 381 reads
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17 / 61

To most of us, anyway.  But not to those who revel in insults, personal attacks, name calling and intimidation rather than civil discourse in a respectful manner which encourages everyone to participate.  

As for safety... some people don't seem to realize that demanding over and over that someone post details of that person's or another person's personal info isn't about safety, but intimidation.  

You have for many years set the board standard on respectful, civil discourse.  Thank you for the reminder that TER expects that kind of behavior to be the rule, not the exception.

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 326 reads
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18 / 61

What we've been saying all along.

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 367 reads
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19 / 61

Requoting the rules (paragraph 1), unnecessary and does not contribute anything to the conversation beyond what Vorlon already said.

Personal info (paragraph 2)? What the heck are you babbling about.

Yes, Vorlon is very PC (paragraph 3). Sometimes stifling so. But I do remember him almost showing emotion and getting "angry" but don't remember the topic. Knots, why don't you go find that pretty please.

Smooches, hugs, kisses. Mwuah!😄
Posted By: knotsaway
To most of us, anyway.  But not to those who revel in insults, personal attacks, name calling and intimidation rather than civil discourse in a respectful manner which encourages everyone to participate.  
   
 As for safety... some people don't seem to realize that demanding over and over that someone post details of that person's or another person's personal info isn't about safety, but intimidation.    
   
 You have for many years set the board standard on respectful, civil discourse.  Thank you for the reminder that TER expects that kind of behavior to be the rule, not the exception.  

funman1969 9 Reviews 300 reads
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20 / 61

Hey Knots
Would you be so kind as to site some references on this board, as to where its been demanded that details of anyones personal info be posted here. And by personal info just what are you refering to. All in nature  of transparency .  You made the claim now , lets get some facts out in the open .  

Posted By: knotsaway
To most of us, anyway.  But not to those who revel in insults, personal attacks, name calling and intimidation rather than civil discourse in a respectful manner which encourages everyone to participate.  
   
 As for safety... some people don't seem to realize that demanding over and over that someone post details of that person's or another person's personal info isn't about safety, but intimidation.    
   
 You have for many years set the board standard on respectful, civil discourse.  Thank you for the reminder that TER expects that kind of behavior to be the rule, not the exception.  

funman1969 9 Reviews 392 reads
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21 / 61

Thank you for that PSA.    10%/ 90%  informed vs clueless .

Oh on the matter of screening   by providers and the use if the board in doing so.  So what ,your not going to blackmail me with that crap. I so happen to have a pending appointment with a very great provider well known here and admired by many. How you like them apples.  
Posted By: TERAdmin
This only occurs on this board. The vast majority of boards have never had a thread or branch closed. The few boards that do, it occurs maybe one time per month.  
   
 The Minnesota board is different.  It was not always this way; take a minute to consider if you are part of the problem or solution.  10% of the people are causing 90% of the problems.  
   
 Reminders  
 • Personal arguments should be carried out via PM  
 • Post that are personal attacks are not allowed  
 • The same topic doesn't need to be beaten to death, One thread is sufficient  
 • If you wouldn't say it in real life, don't type it  
 • Both Guys and Girls use the boards for screening, consider this before posting

vorlon 119 Reviews 365 reads
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22 / 61

I figured you'd likely be first to reply.

Yes, I did read paragraph 2 several times.  I also read paragraphs 3 & 4 several times.  Did you?  Perhaps you should consider taking them to heart regardless of what TER does.

I find it interesting how often you bring up the matter of being called names when it is practically a staple of your posts.  Do you really think you should be able to dish it out and but not take any return fire?  I prefer not to call people names but in this case it's practically unavoidable given how often your clique does so.

What I think is that the board works a lot better when a few people don't regularly turn threads into trainwrecks.  What I think is that we didn't have these issues with posts and threads being removed or locked until these same few people showed up.  In view of that, proclaiming that TER supports your actions is premature at best.

You are right about one thing. I strongly believe in discussing matters in a civil fashion.  Why don't you?

You can revel in your so-called victory but when I look at the board, I see a board largely turned into a wasteland

funman1969 9 Reviews 313 reads
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23 / 61

Yeah and another thing some elect to sound the alarm to shenanigans and BS , while the rest just push the mute button.  Yeah in the 10% and no shame about it.

Posted By: TERAdmin
This only occurs on this board. The vast majority of other boards have never had a thread or branch closed. The few boards that do, it occurs maybe one time per month.  
   
 The Minnesota board is different.  It was not always this way; take a minute to consider if you are part of the problem or solution.  10% of the people are causing 90% of the problems.  
   
 Reminders  
 • Personal arguments should be carried out via PM  
 • Post that are personal attacks are not allowed  
 • The same topic doesn't need to be beaten to death, One thread is sufficient  
 • If you wouldn't say it in real life, don't type it  
 • Both Guys and Girls use the boards for screening, consider this before posting

souls_harbor 357 reads
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24 / 61

Don't double down on stupid.  Calling 90% of the clients of this site clueless is not going to win you approval from the management.

Posted By: funman1969
Thank you for that PSA.    10%/ 90%  informed vs clueless .

Drumsticks 90 Reviews 482 reads
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25 / 61

...on closing threads or removing them altogether. If it were to be even more aggressive and timely, no one on this board would suffer from being denied access to relevant information. Even the most non-controversial posts are frequently turned into platforms for the 10% (or much less) to bully Providers and pile on with derogatory, unnecessary and divisive comments. It's a tough job to monitor this board. TER Admin has the ability to make it much easier and friendlier.

knotsaway 38 Reviews 500 reads
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26 / 61

- Multiple demands to divulge personal information on a public forum (this one) about a former scheduler.
- Multiple demands to divulge the identity of a provider on a public forum (this one) such that anyone (eg LE) could easily link her to a recent online story.  

In each case, these demands involved revealing personal information on specific individuals involved in the local hobby scene.  

Most of the posts involved have been removed by Admin, and rightly so. But a few remain, and are there for you to seek out to satisfy your curiosity. You can use the Search function as well as I can.  

That is all I am going to say on this subject.

funman1969 9 Reviews 255 reads
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27 / 61

Ahh, their appoval is just not that important. Getting  the illusions  cleared up is . Next  

Posted By: souls_harbor
Don't double down on stupid.  Calling 90% of the clients of this site clueless is not going to win you approval from the management.  
   
Posted By: funman1969
Thank you for that PSA.    10%/ 90%  informed vs clueless .

loveyourtouch 495 reads
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28 / 61

It is that simple.  You and the other WKs have run this board for so long that anyone with a differing point of view is deemed obnoxious and needs to be removed and.or indoctrinated.  That is not how real life is.

loveyourtouch 315 reads
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30 / 61

Thanks for the note, but as your info is titled, these are "guidelines," which are suggestions/recommendations not hard and fast rules.  As such, guidelines are subjective and open to interpretation.  At times even TER moderators are at odds regarding what should and should not be permitted.  What one group of people finds offensive or obnoxious is humorous or informative to others.

As a TER VIP member, I find it disconcerting that you single out a segment of the population as trouble makers (causing the problem).  What, exactly is the problem?  That some don't bend over and take it from the do-gooders?  Hardly seems like a neutral position.  Could it be the other boards have members with thicker skin?  

Just sharing some thoughts.  The referee needs to be a referee not a player.  I call 'em as I see 'em.  And what I write on the board I would say to a person's face.  In fact, there are times when I scale back my words so I don't get banned.  Amazes me how childish some grown-ups act- thin skinned.

Have a great day everyone

loveyourtouch 411 reads
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31 / 61

Nothing in your reply is new, informative, or unexpected.  Funny how you ask me if I've considered taking them to heart.  Merely by you writing that in your reply demonstrates that you really don't get it.  To you, everyone else is the problem.  You just can't grasp for one second that maybe you are part of the problem and should heed that advice.

What are you referring to with the name calling?  Are you talking about how the WKs call me a troll or obnoxious?  Those words actually make me smile, and to be honest, coming from you, they are medals of honor.  Yes.... I can handle return fire.  Not sure what you've done in your life, but this is child's play to me, so if this upsets you, I don't even know what to think.  (Well, I do... just not gonna write it here because it might offend someone.)

Of course you didn't have the circumstances (I won't call them problems) before.  The board used to be nothing but obnoxiously obsequient sycophants fawning over each other and taking ad hominem shots at others.  Nothing wrong with a little check and balance system, is there?  Or do you really despise the freedom of expression?

What is uncivil?  Anything you disagree with?   Feel free to PM me (as the moderator noted) with a list of discussions that you deem uncivil and tell me why they are uncivil.  I will reply in kind.

Not reveling in anything.  There is no victory.  It's only a wasteland if you don't contribute.

funman1969 9 Reviews 379 reads
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32 / 61

What "personal information" on former scheduler did we demand?  Personal name? Address  no it was all related to the business, the business was in question. The business that looked after those making them the bank. And when sufficient threw them out  on their own.   Yeah the same one that has alot of personal information that  at anytime they see fit can be demanded by  LE.   Past , present or future.  As Wong said  in  another post, yeah its part of the arena we play in just doesn't mean go along blindly with it.  

The whole CP thing . Advice to that deal dont open doors if you cant close them . Yeah we demanded  to know if she was the one  decided to  talk to media.  Her free decision  .  Dont confuse or distort why  we felt it was relevant to the community to know the facts.  You go right ahead  exercise your liberty and support those  who  talk with media.  By the way didnt P411 have a problem  with  that  whole deal . Maybe  you and the gang  can launch a complaint  to P411 as to their injustice.

Drumsticks 90 Reviews 282 reads
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33 / 61

... Obnoxious, under the Terms & Conditions of this board, is an objective term and universally understood within the brotherhood. I try not to judge but if you're judgement is that you just might fall within this definition...well...few of us would disagree, I'm sure my friend.  

I'm really looking forward to January '17. It's really looking like a highly active month for me. I wish the same for you, LYT.

TalonTed 92 Reviews 309 reads
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34 / 61

will be reduced instantly to 1%.  

Posted By: TERAdmin
This only occurs on this board. The vast majority of other boards have never had a thread or branch closed. The few boards that do, it occurs maybe one time per month.  
   
 The Minnesota board is different.  It was not always this way; take a minute to consider if you are part of the problem or solution.  10% of the people are causing 90% of the problems.  
   
 Threads that are closed, and, posts that are deleted are not necessarily a consequence of a 'Report A Post'.  Many times this is done by an Admin during routine board moderating.  
   
 Reminders  
 • Personal arguments should be carried out via PM  
 • Post that are personal attacks are not allowed  
 • The same topic doesn't need to be beaten to death, one thread is sufficient  
 • If you wouldn't say it in real life, don't type it  
 • Both Guys and Girls use the boards for screening, consider this before posting.  
 • Aliases have an appropriate use and value.

loveyourtouch 464 reads
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35 / 61

(For those who don't get it, this is a take on a Yogi Beara saying....)

Get rid of OTB, and there you go....

funman1969 9 Reviews 430 reads
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36 / 61

I see they got mad at you taking a cut of the action as  The TER complaint scheduler , and took it down. Hope you made a few nickles  on the deal to share with the ladies.

loveyourtouch 343 reads
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37 / 61

Hey, sticks.... I will give you an A for pointing that out. A grammar purist would be proud.  However, I'll have to give you just a participation award overall because, since we are writing in this forum  and not actually  speaking, it would have been proper for you to have written, "Oops! Did you mean to "write,"...."    I added the quotes around the word write because  that is the proper  word to use not the word say.  I am humbled, however, to know that someone is so fascinated by everything I write that he is able to retrieve a comment I posted nearly two weeks ago.  I feel like I have a secret admirer. A secret Santa.  Thanks much!

Since you're so good at producing research, would you please inform me where in the Terms and Conditions  I can find the word obnoxious?  And who is this brotherhood that understands it? This is a general discussion board open to all members. I didn't think a brotherhood  card was required  to participate.  But thanks for highlighting the problem.....  some believe this is a brotherhood.  Is there hazing required to join your brotherhood?

I don't think I am obnoxious at all. And I don't complain to TER about those I find to be obnoxious.

Finally, why wait until Jan '17? There are still days left in November , and we have the whole month of December.  Heck.... you'll be playing catch up.  But I guess in a sense we all are.....   : )

TrinityLake See my TER Reviews 389 reads
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39 / 61

I believe that groups of people with similar interests come together all the time and tend to democratically decide how the majority of the people want their society to be like.  TER is the government that makes the final ruling.  However, the 90% are saying that we have had enough of the 10%.  So, no, you don't get to just run all over people forever.

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 282 reads
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40 / 61

For about 4 years. Nothing's changed except sometimes I have more times to post (like now) and others i have less time.

Earlier this year, I rarely posted for several months and yet the board had not changed at all.

I may voluntarily leave the board yet I doubt anything will change. When the WKs quit sucking up to providers, then the board will be better. You want to kiss someone's ass, do it via PM.

What I've noticed is an increase in WKs the last year or so. I've been around 4 years, Wong from the beginning, Talon 2-3 years, LYT at least the same, funman several years. None of us are new to the board. Maybe you WKs are the ones trying to upset the status quo here?
Posted By: loveyourtouch
(For those who don't get it, this is a take on a Yogi Beara saying....)  
   
 Get rid of OTB, and there you go....  
-- Modified on 11/27/2016 7:10:18 PM

souls_harbor 405 reads
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41 / 61

Now you're calling the administrator a liar.  Brilliant!  Hope that works out for you.

loveyourtouch 422 reads
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You see, laws are created to protect the few not the many.  We have free speech so that the most dissident voice can be heard and is not silenced by a majority.  That is the beauty of freedom, Trin.  The masses don't get to run roughshod over the minority.  You can do as you want in your social circles; that is fine.  But when it comes to governance, the rules are different.  Why do you think flag burning is legal despite it being so disgusting.  I served in the Marine Corps to protect our freedom.  Isn't it sad-ironic actually-that one of the freedoms I fought for was for those idiots to burn or piss on the flag.  That pisses me off, but it is their right, and they are in a very small minority.

TER has made and continues to make rulings.  I and others are still here.  And to be sure, you are part of the problem.  You, too, hurl ad hominem attacks. You make statements that you refuse to back up or clarify with a simple answer.  I have asked you twice to clarify something you voluntarily wrote but contradicted yourself.  So stop playing the victim / poor me card.  You want to get your feet wet and splash others, then you run for cover and cry foul when those people splash back.  Maybe what's really happening is that people are waking up and realizing that they don't need to put up with the WK and do-gooders' shit. You had your run.  If something isn't right, I'll speak up and say something.  You and the few WKs don't own the board.  And stop with this 90/10 shit.  There are a handful of people on both sides who do most of the posting.  The VAST majority of TER users don't even post on the board.

P-411 saw fit to ban you, so don't play innocent, naive little girl here.  You've been around a long time and know the ins and outs of the biz as well as anyone.

loveyourtouch 321 reads
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I didn't read anywhere that anyone called the admin a liar.  The only place I saw that term used was in your reply.  See?  I prove this point over and over.  And what else did you do?  Try to get the admin on your side with that comment.  His comment was posted, so apparently it worked out OK for him.  However, now that you mention it, and I am NOT calling anyone a liar or even deceitful, but I would like to see the empirical data to back up the 90/10 claim.  It's easy to stick one's finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing.  But let the hard data back up claims. And then allow for proper rebuttal.   But I'd rather not even go down that road.  Too much fun reading the posts in here.  :)

souls_harbor 453 reads
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44 / 61

This is a private forum.  The First Amendment doesn't apply here.

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 343 reads
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45 / 61

How to scam the system.  
Or is it how to scam the providers who worked for her and Em?😗

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 337 reads
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46 / 61

The only liar is you with your lies.

loveyourtouch 243 reads
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47 / 61

But the same principles apply.  You just don't get it, do you?  You needle and jab as much as anyone, but you are the one to cry foul.   I know this is a private forum, but I am a VIP member of the forum and have equal standing with you.  The guidelines (rules) don't allow for the majority to overrule the minority.  The rules are there for all.  The rules don't change because a handful of members get upset.  And if you cannot see the analogy between my post referencing free speech and this forum, then we are worse of than I thought.  I figured people were intelligent enough to understand the analogy while understanding the differences.  Perhaps I was wrong giving that much credit to some.

loveyourtouch 454 reads
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The rest of my post where I wrote about Trin's  credibility.  Why is it you didn't respond to that part? Because you agree with me but don't have the courage to tell it like it really is?  Silence speaks volumes.  :)     I understand.

souls_harbor 335 reads
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49 / 61

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people

loveyourtouch 384 reads
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50 / 61

of my posting.  And great minds know that ideas require specifics, i.e., content.  The idea of what requires who, when, where, why and how to be complete.  So, yes, I do have a great mind.  You're mired in talking about events and people.  Nice try.  Oh... and do you have any original thoughts or comments?  Or is everything you post merely stolen or plagiarized?

Wongbater 40 Reviews 250 reads
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51 / 61

the last commenters they want to see banned is me, or OTB, or Talon...why would you want us loose out there IRL doing what we would still be doing on this discussion, only in places you can't see or monitor or moderate?  That's the last thing you'd all want, believe you me.  But we could all eventually decide we're finally bored enough and go elsewhere...

vorlon 119 Reviews 404 reads
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52 / 61

Here's a definition of civil from the link below

2
a :  civilized (civil society)
b :  adequate in courtesy and politeness :  mannerly (a civil question)

Take the thread a little bit down the page called "Why covered BJ?" by bjthegent where you and others hijacked the thread to continue your personal attacks on Trinity.  Almost everyone already knows what how you and your clique think about Trinity and you are certainly entitled to your opinion.  However, to hijack the thread for your own amusement is simply obnoxious.  This is far from the only example of uncivil behavior; it is ridiculously easy to find others.  This is what I take issue with, not the topics themselves.  There's nothing forcing you to behave this way; it is a choice you make.

TER practically calls you out by name as being part of the problem and yet you continue to try and justify your behavior and act like it is everyone else's fault for allegedly trying to oppress you.  The board didn't need your brand of "saving,"  we managed just fine before you and the others showed up.

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 290 reads
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53 / 61

Very famous for hijacking threads here. Even a few providers, too, are infamous for it.

Posted By: vorlon
Here's a definition of civil from the link below  
   
 2  
 a :  civilized (civil society)  
 b :  adequate in courtesy and politeness :  mannerly (a civil question)  
   
 Take the thread a little bit down the page called "Why covered BJ?" by bjthegent where you and others hijacked the thread to continue your personal attacks on Trinity.  Almost everyone already knows what how you and your clique think about Trinity and you are certainly entitled to your opinion.  However, to hijack the thread for your own amusement is simply obnoxious.  This is far from the only example of uncivil behavior; it is ridiculously easy to find others.  This is what I take issue with, not the topics themselves.  There's nothing forcing you to behave this way; it is a choice you make.  
   
 TER practically calls you out by name as being part of the problem and yet you continue to try and justify your behavior and act like it is everyone else's fault for allegedly trying to oppress you.  The board didn't need your brand of "saving,"  we managed just fine before you and the others showed up.

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 375 reads
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54 / 61

None of these.

Posted By: souls_harbor
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 215 reads
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55 / 61

Wong, we all got bored long ago.

Posted By: Wongbater
the last commenters they want to see banned is me, or OTB, or Talon...why would you want us loose out there IRL doing what we would still be doing on this discussion, only in places you can't see or monitor or moderate?  That's the last thing you'd all want, believe you me.  But we could all eventually decide we're finally bored enough and go elsewhere...

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 391 reads
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I asked her in a very civil manner for clarification of an "almost" BJ or whatever she had posted. She chose to not answer the question but rather to talk about movies. A known WK, DrBudGreen, then kept the thread going in that direction.

Isn't my post here another example of being civil? I just disagree with you.
Posted By: vorlon
Here's a definition of civil from the link below  
   
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 a :  civilized (civil society)  
 b :  adequate in courtesy and politeness :  mannerly (a civil question)  
   
 Take the thread a little bit down the page called "Why covered BJ?" by bjthegent where you and others hijacked the thread to continue your personal attacks on Trinity.

funman1969 9 Reviews 468 reads
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I suffer from selective memorory.  Think you know what im getting at.

vorlon 119 Reviews 490 reads
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OldTimerB 45 Reviews 289 reads
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To just answer the question, no sarcasm, no negativity, etc. Then all the subsequent posts would not have happened.

Posted By: vorlon
They are anything but civil.

vorlon 119 Reviews 380 reads
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We know well your dislike of her.  At this point, you'd be lucky if she gave you the time of day.  Nothing in her response called for the piling on you and your buddies did.

OldTimerB 45 Reviews 388 reads
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Seeing as a lot of the whole board thinks she's the 2nd coming of Mother Teresa, I would think it would be fairly easy for her to overlook and forgive mere words.

But the fact remains that if she didn't make that movie comment and had simply answered the question, then there would have been nothing for anyone to pile on about.

It's not my dislike of her. I've seen her as a provider. I would not do that with a person I didn't like. It's simply my dislike of what she's done and perhaps what she's become.
Posted By: vorlon
We know well your dislike of her.  At this point, you'd be lucky if she gave you the time of day.  Nothing in her response called for the piling on you and your buddies did.

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