a couple of responses
You: "1. 9 is not the best possible score;"
Me: Yes it is -- in 90% of all encounters. The 90% that don't involve Greek or 3 or more people.
You: "2. What is the problem here? Yes, a 7 can have a different meaning for a massage provider vs. a FS provider. But it's easy to differentiate between them when searching." Me: The scores have provided up til now some help in differentiating between escorts and those providers with massage profiles who provide BJ and or full service. Of whom there are many. I often find those by score (performance 8 or more). Now with compression of scores what would you give an escort who provided BJ only? If I'm looking for the best BJ the system doesn't work. (That's not how I search, but I think some do) Well enough of this, except for your last point:
You: "As for fake reviewers, the best way to get rid of them is to report them when you see them."
Me: I do, and they (mostly) don't (get rid of them).
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Be sure to read the Review Guidelines before submitting a review... they've changed! I see changes in #8 and #9 especially, but there may be other changes.
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Since you have read the new guidelines could you share some Key Points or examples?
Tho they don't express specifically the preformance section of scoring (& IMHO they should) once I read it it's clear to me
That's what they are talking about and seems to have changed becoming very specific, still I take it as a gal can get up to a 9 in the section as long as she does certain things,
From what I know about GFE it's most often standard to kiss w/tongue the other specific - to qualify for that 9 score- would be bbbj which of course not all gals do.....
I'm assuming the scoring in the looks area is, as always up to the reviewer.
I'll make the additional comment that the performance scoring is up to the reviewer, up to a 7 after that there are rules that factor in.
They also clearly state that nobody directly connected to the provider (nor the provider them self) is allowed to write a review, meaning no family, SO and o think they gave other examples.
I think it should be noted very clearly that if you are in a location where the provider has first
(and most often- accesses TER ) from - Usually her incall ..yet this could conceivably happen at hotels or other community internet area's......DO NOT EVER -as a reviewer- access TER while on that SAME internet connection/ip address/wifi
I know more than a couple people that made an honest mistake this way.
So just remembering that reviews should be between the reviewer & TER only until it's accepted & posted is good to keep in mind.
Ok that's what my perception is, if I missed anything or I'm wrong please correct me.
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... that the performance score is no longer based on what the provider potentially CAN do, as per her profile. It's based now on what she actually DID in the session being reviewed.
This has obvious implications. For example, if a provider performed kissing with tongue, CBJ, and didn't visit Greece, her maximum possible score is 8, unless it was a threesome and then it could be 9 if she's "really bi" or if two males were involved.
I think one ramification of this new rule is there will be fewer 9s and a LOT fewer 10s than before.
Another change of note is that now when you write a new review for a provider you've reviewed before, the old review remains. In the past, the new review replaced the old review.
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And if it involves multiple guys and multiple gals then it could still be a 10. That's not a likely combination though.
In fact, in my time on TER I can recall seeing only one review that involved multiple guys AND gals.
As long as we're looking at rare combos... what if the hobbyist is female? I know there's some women hobbyists who write reviews on TER. Kissing with tongue is in play of course, as is Really Bi, so that's a possible 9. But what about BBBJ? Could BBDATY take the place of BBBJ when it's FF? And if the provider lets the female hobbyist use a dildo on her back door, that should add a possible point too, right? Ah the possibilities...
What if the hobbyists are a couple? I see those happen a couple of times a year. Indeed, there are all sorts of combinations we can come up with but they are so uncommon I doubt TER is going to concern themselves with them.
So some of the top girls in MN scores may go down unless there menu opens up a bit - or the guy will just say stuff happens when it really didn't.
I like kissing, but we are Kleenx deep into cold and flu season and I appreciate when a lady asks not to kiss to stay healthy.
As for BBBJ, it isn't a huge deal if the sex is great. I don't think ladies should be restricted to a 7 if they like everything covered.
Under these guidelines, I will never be giving out a 10 for my usual dates
I have concerns...
1. People will lie to give the provider a greater score.
- Saying they do a certain act to get it up to a 10
2. Why did they do this??
- Is it because of the shit they are getting on social media?
- Many providers are saying "FUCK TER"
Also here is my thing..... A provider must do lots of "extras" now to be considered a 10. Isn't that all in the eye of the beholder? Now some may blast me on here. But who cares.
Lets say I see a provider and have a great time with her. I mean we connected and I got my needs fulfilled.... shouldn't she get a 10 in my eyes? Others might think it is a 2 but in my eyes (of the reviewer) it was a 10. I mean we all seek something different many times in our adventures. Now TER is trying to tell us what a 10 is!!
I think they should really just get rid of the "scoring" system. I think people should check the boxes of what happened and leave a brief description of what went on... if it was good, bad, or what ever. Then let the reader of the review decide if they want to go see the provider.
One thing I do like is that you can review a provider twice in a shorter period of time. This is a good thing. Lets just say... you see a provider and she was great... then set up an appointment two weeks later and now she wasn't into it for what ever reason (thing happen and moods changed)..... your old good review is gone... or people wouldn't do a new review with the update. This way it can be more accurate IMHO. This also goes the other way around as well.... you go and have a mediocre experience.... then have one that knocks your socks off..... Which has happened to me. Because sometimes you just are not comfortable with each other until visit 2,3,4... etc.
Just some concerns I have and what not.
1. People will lie to give the provider a greater score.
- Saying they do a certain act to get it up to a 10
This creates problems for the provider and misrepresentation to other hobbyists. Also, just because a gal does something with one doesn't mean the next is going to get the same thing. Their are factors a lady considers, such as size, cleanliness, preparation, etc.
As for your comment about the service being a 10 to you and a 2 to another...very true but at the same time, as long as there are reviews, there has to be some thing to measure them by. If there was no standard, scoring would be even a bigger mess than they already are.
Many top ladies will be getting lower scores as a result of the review guidelines as they now read.
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Oh I agree 100% hoping people wont say that something happened and it didn't.
What I am saying is that for a provider to get a 9 or a 10 score... they must do everything under the sun. When in fact they provided a 10 service to someone.... but can only get an 7/8.
This is why you see the #fuckTER movement on twitter and other social media.
I know this system isn't perfect or anything like that but it is unfair and I see why that social media movement is going on.
I wouldn't conclude that because it is on social media now that it is really any more widespread than it has been. Yes, it would be nice if every reviewer was free to score the provider as they saw fit but that would have to go along with some other things I think such as
1) The reader of a review can see what the individual reviewer put in for the profile; not just what was set when the provider profile was first created with any modifications made by subsequent problem reports
2) There has to be an end to reviews that are vague about what happened
Unless something like that happens, I think it is good to make it harder to hand out 10s like they are candy.
Exactly what I was trying to get at.
Because lets say a provider for her first three reviews didn't do BBBJ.... then she did in her next three reviews.... on her profile it will state no BBBJ.
My main issue with the new scoring system is that in order for a provider to get a 10 in a twosome session (MF), she has to provide not only BBBJ but also a trip to Greece. There's many providers who won't do BBBJ for whatever reason (safety, don't like the taste of cum etc.), but there's lots who don't offer anal sex. And lots of guys who couldnt care less about that. But now it's a requirement for a 10. IMO there's a lot more important things about a provider's performance than that.
One mitigating factor is that there will soon be a Chemistry score, 1-5, that will allow a reviewer to rate the provider on aspects that aren't addressed by stuff like whether she punches your passport to Greece or not.
The Chemistry score seems like a reasonable idea, but isn't chemistry between provider and client going to generally be a YMMV situation?
One mitigating factor is that there will soon be a Chemistry score, 1-5, that will allow a reviewer to rate the provider on aspects that aren't addressed by stuff like whether she punches your passport to Greece or not.
But one of the things I look at when researching a provider is who has reviewed her. If I find reviewers that I personally regard as having similar tastes to mine then odds are their chemistry score will be relevant to me.
All the talk of MFM, fmf, and anal you still have a situation where provider can get a 9 in performance without performing traditional vaginal sex.
Go figure
Well, this IS The Erotic Review, not The Sexual Intercourse Review. 
Some of the most erotic sessions I've had with providers are with some who don't offer FS. And I know you know some of these ladies. 
I've even had what I consider to be "once in a lifetime" experiences with those providers.
And if you see my post above, it's possible for a provider to get a 9 or even a 10 under the new rules w/o a BBBJ, let alone w/o vaginal sex.
But hey, I'm just the messenger here. I didn't define the rules. They is what they is.
It was not from a FS provider. But we celebrated New Years (not that night). with me preparing my ballbag and the countdown to my "ball(s) drop" landed when the countdown hit ZERO! Not a kiss at our midnight, but a good tea-bag.
That's worth at min a
I agree. I've thought for a long time that the activities performed should be listed as one part of the review, and how well she does the listed activities should be the score.
I'm fairly new to TER, so I guess this all seems a little silly to me....I know first hand, that anything can be and is written in reviews. And we just have to deal with it. I reported something that was falsely written about me, and it's still there. Reviews are entirely based on opinion...I think a checklist of services provided would be more beneficial, and perhaps a quick explanation, if needed..but we all know what one person enjoys might not be what the next person enjoys. And as a provider, we also perform our best when we have chemistry with someone...and that all starts with the communication ahead of time, and of course cleanliness, etc. Things that are based on opinion shouldn't be rated...but that's just my opinion!
and 9s and 10s maybe a red flag???
kissing gets you to the 8, BB gets you to a 9. For some, a lot of bb is a turn off. There is a reason why many providers cover everything, and I can respect that.
A 9 or 10 would simply mean she performed enough different activities to be able to get that score.
Red Flag is the wrong wording.
Too many 10s with no differential. Now 8-9-10 are all great, but you know a 10 might be further down then spectrum than some are comfortable with.
I like to see some variation because I found it improbable that a provider could always be that perfect every time.
We'll have to see what happens with the new system.
There is a possibility of a lady getting 12 for performance. The "really bi" and "more than 1 guy" are really the only ones that TER can dock for if the review does not mention 3 or more people. The rest can be exaggerated pretty easily. There are MANY profiles that say bbbj or DFK or Greek and that when asked it is YMMV or I "used to" do that but not any more. So unless TER plans on policing inaccurate profiles and emailing both provider and client after every review to compare the happenings I do not see much change coming. The guys that do 10/10 reviews will continue and the ladies getting them will continue to. There might be some flack back on the board about what a guy got or didn't get but when has that not existed?
Why people are so concerned about scores is beyond me. I mean we have done reviews of "RIP OFF" gals and guys still go see them! So either guys don't even know or check reviews or they feel they will be that YMMV for the lady and go anyway. If I see 10/10's constantly for a lady I really expect nothing more than her best based on how we click. I go in hoping for a 7/7 experience and go from there. If I look at the scoring verbiage 10 is ONCE in a lifetime and see that a guy has a majority of them I understand it is not true because each reviewer should only have 1 of them. By definition you can't have more than 1.
Maybe the scoring should be based on each activity, THAT would be something wouldn't it? Best kisser I ever met, best fuck of my life, best cbj/bbbj of my life. At least that way we know WHAT event the guy was basing his 10 on right and we could see reason for the multiple 10/10 reviews.
Maybe sex never happened at all but the girl dipped your body in her favorite ice cream topping and licked you clean, that would qualify as a once in a lifetime experience for some right!?
Go see a girl, leave happy and your money was well spent! I want to know about the cold fish, stand offish or no show so I can eliminate that one from my todo list without wasting my time and money!
... we don't take the verbiage that TER has arbitrarily assigned to either performance or appearance scores as literal or etched in stone definitions that one is limited in adhering to. The verbiage used are guidelines, they're figures of speech, you're free to replace their meaning to what you believe those scores mean to you even tho the TER selected phrases will appear in your review. This topic has been visited thousands of times and I'm surprised a veteran pooner would even bring it up. You have a Once in a Lifetime experience with a woman and you never see her again. You have a Once in a Lifetime with another woman and you may or may not see her again. You've still had a Once in a Lifetime experience with two different, unique women. The Once in a Lifetime counter resets after each encounter you experience. The French have a term for an orgasm; La Petite Mort or, A Little Death. The belief is that each of us will suffer a short moment of death from an orgasm and almost all of us quickly resuscitate. Thus, with each orgasm we die and are renewed to begin a new lifetime. Hence, having many Once in a Lifetime experiences is always considered the norm. No need to overthink this and go back and adjust our scores on our previous reviews. It's a beautiful thing!
I know I've had many such experiences. They all involved actions, circumstances, and/or settings that are impossible or unlikely to ever happen again in my lifetime. Some examples from outside the hobby:
- my first day of kindergarten
- my first (and only) start in a basketball game (a big deal for me, given my poor b-ball skills)
- first time seeing an ocean
- first time flying a plane
- my first kiss
- my first sexual experience i.e. popping the cherry
- graduation from high school... college... grad school (each one was different)
- my wedding
- birth of each child (each one was different)
- etc etc
I've given more than one 10 (for performance) because each time I believe it was an experience I'm unlikely to repeat in quite that way. For me, it was "once in a lifetime." And of course the provider's performance was truly exceptional, and she qualified for a 10.
Under the new rules, looks like I won't be giving any more 10s unless it's with more than one provider (not sure if I want to do the more-than-one-guy thing). Que sera, sera.
You can still write your reviews as usual, just give it a few weeks before you do and it will all blow over! The ladies will be more affect by this than the guys. If she gets 10's she will have that expectation still bestowed upon her. Tell me you don't think that ladies in this bizz don't get shit every day by the things in their reviews and the expectations that the reviews create. Your profile says you do Greek tours it shouldn't matter if I am a total ass and have a dick the size of your arm, bend over and lets get to it I paid the price!
The fact remains that p4p is not an exact science, YMMV is way more prevalent than most think and it will never change no matter what TER rules change. It simply can't follow written rules.
So as i stated, I don't expect anything to change with the rules. The reviewers will write reviews and TER if it wants to exist will accept them.
I think there will be a change: 10s for MF sessions will be much more rare than they are today. 9s will be less common also. You disagree. Let's check back in a month or two and see what actually happened.
Meanwhile, thanks for reinforcing my point from earlier in the thread about YMMV.
Things might be different for a nit a month may be different. TER will probably kick some reviews out, but i do think it will be back to things as usual in pretty short order. How will TER prove if greek happened or not, it will be the new BI girl. The ladies can deny it in session, but if the guy wants to give her a 10 he will probably still include it!
A quick perusal of the Minnesota Top 50 shows only 12 of the 47 non-TS providers have "Yes" or "YMMV" for Greek. What if a guy puts Greek into a review for one of the other ladies in order to give her a 10, and let's assume you're correct that TER will allow it even though it's not on her menu. What do you suppose will happen? I know what will happen. Other guys will expect trips to Greece with that provider. Then when she turns them down, they'll be pissed off and downgrade her score.
So I'm really hoping guys won't be such idiots, and asshats, that they'll put Greek into reviews when it didn't happen.
I think those reviews will still get through without Greek in her profile or mention of it in her review. For the first month or so it might not work out that way, but I think it will eventually be no change.
I don't expect any change because reviewers do not follow what TER wants and TER is never going to spend the time comparing notes to deny the reviews. They might kick a few back in an act of enforcing them but everyone knows it won't stick. So yes, if you find a gal that delivers SOMETHING of extreme she will still get a 10/10. She could be the best joke teller in the world, if that made your day she will get a 10/10 from you, I get it! I am not sure what jacking off at home has to do with my saying that I don't expect reviews here to change but I am glad you can squeeze one out at home every day and die and self resuscitate . But it is nice to know that every day I am born again and can work and sign legal documents before I am a day old or does the born again and my life starting over only apply to sex? The French must not have legal age requirements for legal documents or they don't believe we die and are reborn with every orgasm we squeeze out either huh! Like you said it is "JUST a saying! Yes the veteran pooner in me realizes that NOTHING will change! It is simply conversation!
Okay, I acknowledge the problems that have existed in the performance category. For instance, the 'really bi' scenario. A lady could have a guy mark that as yes and even if she wasn't, she never had to prove it. It was an automatic freebie for higher marks.
My question and/or issue is now- why is TER basically removing reviewers' ability to have any control over the score? For instance, I do greek. Some clients have literally zero interest in it, some even have an aversion. However they think that my overall skill level was a 10. In the past, I could get a 10. But now I can only get a 9 because even though I offered greek they didn't want it and now I am being penalized. What's the point in a review board when reviewers have no power to review as they see fit?
On to my overall point, you can't see the scores or the juicy details without VIP access. If you can see the score, you can see the review. TER makes sure the reviews are very explicit so there will be no question as to what services were provided. So why even have the performance score then? Just replace it with the chemistry score and be done if that's what they are going to do. All of this is getting kind of ridiculous. I get wanting to know that a provider is safe and is as advertised but it has gotten to the point of dissecting each and every component so clinically that it is tedious and decidedly unsexy.
The reviewer's rating displayed along with the TER adjusted rating. A session with connection and chemistry for me can easily rate as a 9 or 10 when TER guidelines allow for no more than a 7 or 8. This to me would be good information about a provider as it tells me that there can be more to a session with her than just pure mechanics.
...I'm likely to receive from a lady. I wouldn't want to do away with them. I read up on a lady and read her reviews before I ask her for a date. I look at her performance scores first as a screening tool to see if she's worth spending time on researching her. I don't have time to read thru her reviews to find out what others have thought about. The performance score has been and will remain a strong and worthwhile screening method to help me decide who I'd like to see.
The performance scores before were based on the reviewer's discretion. She didn't necessarily have to do the things with you as long as they were 'on the menu'. Over time, the performance score has come to mean how well the appointment went. Many high end ladies have a very limited menu but because reviewers found their skills and/or the general appointment to be exemplary they were given a 10.
Now, that is no longer going to happen. TER is taking away reviewer's discretion. So unless the provider does bbbj, dfk, and anal she cannot get a 10. So now a lady who doesn't do anal can't get more than a 9. Even if you thought it was the best session in the world, nope, no 10. And it narrows the range so how exactly is it going to help you make a better decision? It's going to negatively influence. So TER says any warm body is eligible for a 7 but most providers are going to fall between 7 and 9 now. 10s are going to be extremely uncommon because for mmf or mff, a guy is going to write a duo review. Most providers don't do greek for every appointment and maybe you don't even like greek so it might not matter to you. Do you get what I'm saying? TER is making the numbers more focused on the services rather than the overall experience.
To me, it's ridiculous that a guy can't have a "10" experience with a woman without anal sex. I think TER overcompensated in their attempt to address abuses of the rating system.
However, ratings aren't everything. To me, the review details are more important, unless the scores are consistently low and then I won't bother to read the reviews. I think we'll learn to adjust to the new reality where an 8 is an excellent score, and 9s and 10s are just icing. Maybe this will help alleviate if not end the obsession that some providers have with getting 10s.
Could it be TER made the change because of worldwide demand. Just throwing this out there, don't know if anal
is the think to do overseas and in other country's .
You guy's left the door wide open on this. So here you go !
So to break this all down to simplicity. You literal have to take it in the ASS to get a 10 !
3 of the 5 current ones are not really that common.
... I will adjust to it and we will adjust to it and part of the problem in the past has been on TER admin's inconsistency in enforcing performance ratings. For some reason, TER has me in their cross hairs and any time I submit a review that doesn't add up precisely with the performance rules, it gets kicked back to me to revise my score before they'll approve it. I've read hundreds of reviews where a guy will give a 10 performance rating and his review will provide absolutley zero justification of why she merits such a score. I'll often try to add another point when a lady shows extra enthusiasm and kindness during a session. There's almost always great chemistry between me & my partners. I can't explain why but there is. A rating on chemistry vs. performance is meaningless to me. I now know that a performance rating of 8, 9 or higher is going to be highly predictive of a great time for me. I wish I could continue to give 10s but that will likely be very rare from now on assuming TER enforces their own rules.
I recall many years ago that the scoring system for internationally ranked female gymnasts was changed so it is now impossible (essentially) for a woman to achieve a perfect 10 score. Nadia Comenici is the last woman gymnast to achieve perfect scores based on performance not chemistry. But we adjusted, survived and still love female gymnastics. I'm sorry that you will likely not receive any more 10 scores. I regret that I will unlikely be able to award many 10 scores in the future. This will still continue to be an extremely fun Once in a Lifetime Experience for me regardless of the scoring. I will continue to insert my real perceived performance rating within the text of my review, however.
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Guys might think this site exists because of the reviews but if every girls that did not agree with the system delisted what would happen to the site? I don't think TER will really stop accepting 10 reviews, but time will tell. Many ladies travel with partners and share incalls how does TER know if another girl is in the room. Where in the rules does it say the girl has tp participate? voyeurism is a part of sexual pleasure is it not? How does TER police that? There are a many things impossible for TER to control and if policy kills business it will be bent. I believe more bending, ignoring will be done, but we'll see.
How does TER know if greek happened or not, guy just includes it and boom done! Don't sweat it, the score won't drop if the guys want you to get a 10 you will!
And the next guy comes along wanting it because it is in the review then there's a problem.
This whole thing is just going to piss off more ladies and maybe even make some delist. Interesting will be how TER handles it if a lot of those providers that drive the 10/10 performances start delisting.
Before, all it took was claiming that it was available even if it didn't happen. Now, the review has to say it actually happened. Time will tell if TER is serious about this and what else might happen because of it.
My grounds for thinking it is not REALLY that much different is this. Of all the ladies(escorts) I have seen over half had greek offered on their profile yet only 2 ever offered that up in session. So how many REALLY offered it to begin with? I think most often it was there for the opportunity for a point and they had to deal with being asked about it anyway. When I looked at reviews I always saw YMMV when talking about greek but it was RARE to see it actually included in the happenings of a session. Did the YMMV mean it happened and they didn't include it or they asked and were turned away and it became a YMMV when put in the review? The 2 ladies that offered it during the session had it mentioned quite often in their reviews. The Greek phenomenon has me curious about the arrangements regarding talking sex during scheduling to begin with, but that is for another thread.
I just searched 10/10 reviews from Jan. 2017 and found reviews with 10/10 and of 1 guy and 1 girl and she does not even list greek in her profile nor was it mentioned in the review but it is up and posted! It only took me 30 seconds to find no real change in the review scrutiny.
IF TER is going to enforce this I would at best expect to start seeing reviews reflect this come through now or in the next few days.
So given reviews take awhile to be processed, we should start seeing impact very soon.
I noticed that there's been no 10s for Minnesota providers after Jan. 4, even for providers who frequently get 10s. Could be coincidence as its a small sample size, but we need a little more time to see how the new rules play out.
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This is where we are:
1. The new method compresses the scoring possibilities so much that they may become useless.
Given that 7 is not a great performance score and 9 is the best possible, the result is everybody becomes an unhelpful 8.
2. Scores are also problematic at the low end. There is an obvious problem in the overlap between massage and escorts. A 7 has a completely different meaning for an escort than it does for a masseuse. The masseuse might be worth investigating. The escort most probably not.
Compressing the scale at the top end does nothing to solve either problem. The net effect is that searching by scores becomes much harder.
TER filters are already in urgent need of improvement. Without a decent scoring range they become worse. The search function is already disappointing and now it will be poorer still.
A better option would have been to increase, not decrease, the available scores, take it up to 12, and require actual performance of the specified menu items. Give us 1 extra discretionary point for chemistry (not a whole new category) And give us more, better, boxes to tick. Give half a point for kissing without tongue. And another half for DATY. And -- you knew this one was coming -- get rid of fake reviewers
1. 9 is not the best possible score; 10 is just going to be more rare now unless there's more than two people involved. And I'm puzzled by your comment about "unhelpful 8" since you've given only one 9 (published) in the past 2-1/2 years and few 9s overall. And no 10s. On the surface, it seems a performance score above 8 isn't too important to you when choosing which providers to see.
2. What is the problem here? Yes, a 7 can have a different meaning for a massage provider vs. a FS provider. But it's easy to differentiate between them when searching.
Why does searching by score become "much harder"? The reduction in the number of 10 ratings will tend to move averages of the top providers more to the 8-9 range than 9-10 range, but none of your published reviews is above 9 so why is that a problem? You should be able to still find top providers by score by ratcheting down the search range a bit. A quick glance at the average scores on the Top XXX (plug in any number you want, down to 100) can give you an idea of your upper and lower ranges for searches.
As for adding more points, I see problems with that also unless old reviews are re-scored--which isn't practical. Anyway, it's possible today to search on services like kissing without tongue and DATY, and I expect it will be possible to search on Chemistry when that feature is implemented. So even if those and other items aren't included in the performance score, you can still seek out providers who offer those service and/or have high Chemistry ratings.
As for fake reviewers, the best way to get rid of them is to report them when you see them.
1. The new method compresses the scoring possibilities so much that they may become useless.
Given that 7 is not a great performance score and 9 is the best possible, the result is everybody becomes an unhelpful 8.
2. Scores are also problematic at the low end. There is an obvious problem in the overlap between massage and escorts. A 7 has a completely different meaning for an escort than it does for a masseuse. The masseuse might be worth investigating. The escort most probably not.
Compressing the scale at the top end does nothing to solve either problem. The net effect is that searching by scores becomes much harder.
TER filters are already in urgent need of improvement. Without a decent scoring range they become worse. The search function is already disappointing and now it will be poorer still.
A better option would have been to increase, not decrease, the available scores, take it up to 12, and require actual performance of the specified menu items. Give us 1 extra discretionary point for chemistry (not a whole new category) And give us more, better, boxes to tick. Give half a point for kissing without tongue. And another half for DATY. And -- you knew this one was coming -- get rid of fake reviewers
a couple of responses
You: "1. 9 is not the best possible score;"
Me: Yes it is -- in 90% of all encounters. The 90% that don't involve Greek or 3 or more people.
You: "And I'm puzzled by your comment about "unhelpful 8" since you've given only one 9 (published) in the past 2-1/2 years and few 9s overall. And no 10s. On the surface, it seems a performance score above 8 isn't too important to you when choosing which providers to see."
Me: Don't usually review women who don't need my reviews, and try to review when it is helpful to hobbyists. That explains most of the 8s I think. You will notice that over 50% of my reviews in the last 2.5 yrs are first or second reviews -- TOFTs. As for the scarce 9s, those will now largely become 8s under the new system. So, just speaking for me, all reviews of good to average providers will be 7-8. Incidentally, would have a given a 9 or 10 if I had found one among those I reviewed. Now I can't. (As a side note, tried to give 9s to 2 massage providers recently who gave more than expected, but my scores were revised down. Can you tell who they were? Bet you can't. And that's my point.)
You: "2. What is the problem here? Yes, a 7 can have a different meaning for a massage provider vs. a FS provider. But it's easy to differentiate between them when searching."
Me: The scores have provided up til now some help in differentiating between escorts and those providers with massage profiles who provide BJ and or full service. Of whom there are many. I often find those by score (performance 8 or more). Now with compression of scores what would you give an escort who provided BJ only? If I'm looking for the best BJ the system doesn't work. (That's not how I search, but I think some do)
Well enough of this, except for your last point:
You: "As for fake reviewers, the best way to get rid of them is to report them when you see them."
Me: I do, and they (mostly) don't (get rid of them).
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... but based on what you said and your recent reviews, I think I know which two providers you're taliking about. And if they are who I think they are, I can tell you that under the old rules, for one of them 8 is the highest score allowed and under the new rules the highest possible score would be a 7. And for the second provider, she's eligible for a 9 under both the old and new rules, so if your 9 was rejected TER made a mistake on that one (they do that sometimes--they're human!) and if you want to challenge it you can get the score upped to a 9. PM me if you have any questions about that.
As for what I'd give an escort who did BJ only... well first of all I wouldn't see one who did only that. But for sake of discussion, I could give her as high as an 8 (if BBBJ, 7 if CBJ) under the new rules, but what I'd actually give her would depend on how things went overall. And if I wanted to find out who gave the best BJ, I'd do some narrowing down with searches and then read reviews--mere searches won't tell me what I need to know.
And thanks for clarifying that you weren't talking about 9 bring the best possible score, which is what your OP said, but the best possible for the vast majority of cases--which I agree with.
That's great that you report suspected bogus reviews/reviewers, but understand that Admin needs clear evidence before they take action because the action is pretty severe--e.g. flagging the provider as having fabricated reviews, and possible delisting (or banishment for the reviewer). Whenever I've reported a problem with clear evidence, it's been acted on. If it was a judgement call, Admin hasn't always agreed with me and that's their prerogative--it's their site.
You: "1. 9 is not the best possible score;"
Me: Yes it is -- in 90% of all encounters. The 90% that don't involve Greek or 3 or more people.
You: "And I'm puzzled by your comment about "unhelpful 8" since you've given only one 9 (published) in the past 2-1/2 years and few 9s overall. And no 10s. On the surface, it seems a performance score above 8 isn't too important to you when choosing which providers to see."
Me: Don't usually review women who don't need my reviews, and try to review when it is helpful to hobbyists. That explains most of the 8s I think. You will notice that over 50% of my reviews in the last 2.5 yrs are first or second reviews -- TOFTs. As for the scarce 9s, those will now largely become 8s under the new system. So, just speaking for me, all reviews of good to average providers will be 7-8. Incidentally, would have a given a 9 or 10 if I had found one among those I reviewed. Now I can't. (As a side note, tried to give 9s to 2 massage providers recently who gave more than expected, but my scores were revised down. Can you tell who they were? Bet you can't. And that's my point.)
You: "2. What is the problem here? Yes, a 7 can have a different meaning for a massage provider vs. a FS provider. But it's easy to differentiate between them when searching."
Me: The scores have provided up til now some help in differentiating between escorts and those providers with massage profiles who provide BJ and or full service. Of whom there are many. I often find those by score (performance 8 or more). Now with compression of scores what would you give an escort who provided BJ only? If I'm looking for the best BJ the system doesn't work. (That's not how I search, but I think some do)
Well enough of this, except for your last point:
You: "As for fake reviewers, the best way to get rid of them is to report them when you see them."
Me: I do, and they (mostly) don't (get rid of them).
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...I was once a member of a board where they went from a 10 point system to a five point whole number system and eliminated appearance scores. The result was that almost every review awarded a perfect 5 for performance. Admin would encourage members who wanted more key info on the woman's appearance to just refer to her TER profile.
Seriously, did we go back to Rio and I missed it? What is this the gymnastics venue and we're all worried about tenths of a point for not sticking the landing?
Do away with all the damn numbers and just give me a simple thumbs up or thumbs down. Did she look like her photos/description? Yes or no. Did you enjoy your time with her? Yes or No. Your 10 may be a 6 to me and vice versa. To sit here and fret about the difference between an 8 and a 9 is about as worthwhile as worrying about the difference between 1 inch of snow and 2 inches of snow. Just a simple heads up that she's worth every penny you are contemplating spending, or that she will rob you blind is a fine base point to start from, because much like snowflakes no 2 encounters are going to be the same, unless you're fucking an actual robot.