Be sure to read the Review Guidelines before submitting a review... they've changed!  I see changes in #8 and #9 especially, but there may be other changes.  

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Since you have read the new guidelines could you share some Key Points or examples?

Tho they don't express specifically the preformance section of scoring (& IMHO they should) once I read it it's clear to me  
That's what they are talking about and seems to have changed becoming very specific, still I take it as a gal can get up to a 9 in the section as long as she does certain things,  
           From what I know about GFE it's most often standard to kiss w/tongue the other specific - to qualify for that 9 score- would be bbbj which of course not all gals do.....

... that the performance score is no longer based on what the provider potentially CAN do, as per her profile. It's based now on what she actually DID in the session being reviewed.  

And if it involves multiple guys and multiple gals then it could still be a 10.  That's not a likely combination though.

So some of the top girls in MN scores may go down unless there menu opens up a bit - or the guy will just say stuff happens when it really didn't.

I have concerns...

I like kissing, but we are Kleenx deep into cold and flu season and I appreciate when a lady asks not to kiss to stay healthy.

This creates problems for the provider and misrepresentation to other hobbyists.  Also, just because a gal does something with one doesn't mean the next is going to get the same thing.  Their are factors a lady considers, such as size, cleanliness, preparation, etc.  

Oh I agree 100% hoping people wont say that something happened and it didn't.

My main issue with the new scoring system is that in order for a provider to get a 10 in a twosome session (MF), she has to provide not only BBBJ but also a trip to Greece.  There's many providers who won't do BBBJ for whatever reason (safety, don't like the taste of cum etc.), but there's lots who don't offer anal sex.  And lots of guys who couldnt care less about that.  But now it's a requirement for a 10.  IMO there's a lot more important things about a provider's performance than that.  

The Chemistry score seems like a reasonable idea, but isn't chemistry between provider and client going to generally be a YMMV situation?

In fact, in my time on TER I can recall seeing only one review that involved multiple guys AND gals.  

But one of the things I look at when researching a provider is who has reviewed her.  If I find reviewers that I personally regard as having similar tastes to mine then odds are their chemistry score will be relevant to me.

I wouldn't conclude that because it is on social media now that it is really any more widespread than it has been.  Yes, it would be nice if every reviewer was free to score the provider as they saw fit but that would have to go along with some other things I think such as
1) The reader of a review can see what the individual reviewer put in for the profile; not just what was set when the provider profile was first created with any modifications made by subsequent problem reports
2)  There has to be an end to reviews that are vague about what happened

All the talk of MFM, fmf, and anal you still have a situation where provider can get a 9 in performance without performing traditional vaginal sex.
Go figure

Well, this IS The Erotic Review, not The Sexual Intercourse Review.  

It was not from a FS provider.  But we celebrated New Years (not that night). with me preparing my ballbag and the countdown to my "ball(s) drop" landed when the countdown hit ZERO! Not a kiss at our midnight, but a good tea-bag.
  That's worth at min a

Exactly what I was trying to get at.

and 9s and 10s maybe a red flag???

kissing gets you to the 8, BB gets you to a 9. For some, a lot of bb is a turn off. There is a reason why many providers cover everything, and I can respect that.

I agree.  I've thought for a long time that the activities performed should be listed as one part of the review, and how well she does the listed activities should be the score.

A 9 or 10 would simply mean she performed enough different activities to be able to get that score.

There is a possibility of a lady getting 12 for performance.  The "really bi" and "more than 1 guy" are really the only ones that TER can dock for if the review does not mention 3 or more people.  The rest can be exaggerated pretty easily.  There are MANY profiles that say bbbj or DFK or Greek and that when asked it is YMMV or I "used to" do that but not any more.  So unless TER plans on policing inaccurate profiles and emailing both provider and client after every review to compare the happenings I do not see much change coming.  The guys that do 10/10 reviews will continue and the ladies getting them will continue to.  There might be some flack back on the board about what a guy got or didn't get but when has that not existed?  

Okay, I acknowledge the problems that have existed in the performance category. For instance, the 'really bi' scenario. A lady could have a guy mark that as yes and even if she wasn't, she never had to prove it. It was an automatic freebie for higher marks.  

The reviewer's rating displayed along with the TER adjusted rating. A session with connection and chemistry for me can easily rate as a 9 or 10 when TER guidelines allow for no more than a 7 or 8. This to me would be good information about a provider as it tells me that there can be more to a session with her than just pure mechanics.

... we don't take the verbiage that TER has arbitrarily assigned to either performance or appearance scores as literal or etched in stone definitions that one is limited in adhering to. The verbiage used are guidelines, they're figures of speech, you're free to replace their meaning to what you believe those scores mean to you even tho the TER selected phrases will appear in your review. This topic has been visited thousands of times and I'm surprised a veteran pooner would even bring it up. You have a Once in a Lifetime experience with a woman and you never see her again. You have a Once in a Lifetime with another woman and you may or may not see her again. You've still had a Once in a Lifetime experience with two different, unique women. The Once in a Lifetime counter resets after each encounter you experience. The French have a term for an orgasm;  La Petite Mort or, A Little Death. The belief is that each of us will suffer a short moment of death from an orgasm and almost all  of us quickly resuscitate. Thus, with each orgasm we die and are renewed to begin a new lifetime. Hence, having many Once in a Lifetime experiences is always considered the norm. No need to overthink this and go back and adjust our scores on our previous reviews. It's a beautiful thing!  

...I'm likely to receive from a lady. I wouldn't want to do away with them. I read up on a lady and read her reviews before I ask her for a date. I look at her performance scores first as a screening tool to see if she's worth spending time on researching her. I don't have time to read thru her reviews to find out what others have thought about. The performance score has been and will remain a strong and worthwhile screening method to help me decide who I'd like to see.

The performance scores before were based on the reviewer's discretion. She didn't necessarily have to do the things with you as long as they were 'on the menu'. Over time, the performance score has come to mean how well the appointment went. Many high end ladies have a very limited menu but because reviewers found their skills and/or the general appointment to be exemplary they were given a 10.  

I know I've had many such experiences.  They all involved actions, circumstances, and/or settings that are impossible or unlikely to ever happen again in my lifetime.  Some examples from outside the hobby:

To me, it's ridiculous that a guy can't have a "10" experience with a woman without anal sex.  I think TER overcompensated in their attempt to address abuses of the rating system.  

Could it be TER  made the change because of worldwide demand. Just throwing this out there, don't know if anal
is the think to do  overseas and in other country's .

3 of the 5 current ones are not really that common.

What if the hobbyists are a couple?  I see those happen a couple of times a year.  Indeed, there are all sorts of combinations we can come up with but they are so uncommon I doubt TER is going to concern themselves with them.

... I will adjust to it and we will adjust to it and part of the problem in the past has been on TER admin's inconsistency in enforcing performance ratings. For some reason, TER has me in their cross hairs and any time I submit a review that doesn't add up precisely with the performance rules, it gets kicked back to me to revise my score before they'll approve it. I've read hundreds of reviews where a guy will give a 10 performance rating and his review will provide absolutley zero justification of why she merits such a score. I'll often try to add another point when a lady shows extra enthusiasm and kindness during a session. There's almost always great chemistry between me & my partners. I can't explain why but there is. A rating on chemistry vs. performance is meaningless to me. I now know that a performance rating of 8, 9 or higher is going to be highly predictive of a great time for me. I wish I could continue to give 10s but that will likely be very rare from now on assuming TER enforces their own rules.  

I don't expect any change because reviewers do not follow what TER wants and TER is never going to spend the time comparing notes to deny the reviews.  They might kick a few back in an act of enforcing them but everyone knows it won't stick.  So yes, if you find a gal that delivers SOMETHING of extreme she will still get a 10/10.  She could be the best joke teller in the world, if that made your day she will get a 10/10 from you, I get it!   I am not sure what jacking off at home has to do with my saying that I don't expect reviews here to change but I am glad you can squeeze one out at home every day and die and self resuscitate .  But it is nice to know that every day I am born again and can work and sign legal documents before I am a day old or does the born again and my life starting over only apply to sex?  The French must not have legal age requirements for legal documents or they don't believe we die and are reborn with every orgasm we squeeze out either huh!  Like you said it is "JUST a saying!  Yes the veteran pooner in me realizes that NOTHING will change!  It is simply conversation!

You can still write your reviews as usual, just give it a few weeks before you do and it will all blow over!  The ladies will be more affect by this than the guys.  If she gets 10's she will have that expectation still bestowed upon her.  Tell me you don't think that ladies in this bizz don't get shit every day by the things in their reviews and the expectations that the reviews create.  Your profile says you do Greek tours it shouldn't matter if I am a total ass and have a dick the size of your arm, bend over and lets get to it I paid the price!

Guys might think this site exists because of the reviews but if every girls that did not agree with the system delisted what would happen to the site?  I don't think TER will really stop accepting 10 reviews, but time will tell.  Many ladies travel with partners and share incalls how does TER know if another girl is in the room.  Where in the rules does it say the girl has tp participate?  voyeurism is a part of sexual pleasure is it not?  How does TER police that?  There are a many things impossible for TER to control and if policy kills business it will be bent.  I believe more bending, ignoring will be done, but we'll see.

How does TER know if greek happened or not, guy just includes it and boom done!  Don't sweat it, the score won't drop if the guys want you to get a 10 you will!

I think there will be a change: 10s for MF sessions will be much more rare than they are today.  9s will be less common also.  You disagree. Let's check back in a month or two and see what actually happened.

Things might be different for a nit a month may be different.  TER will probably kick some reviews out, but i do think it will be back to things as usual in pretty short order.  How will TER prove if greek happened or not, it will be the new BI girl.  The ladies can deny it in session, but if the guy wants to give her a 10 he will probably still include it!

I just searched 10/10 reviews from Jan. 2017 and found reviews with 10/10 and of 1 guy and 1 girl and she does not even list greek in her profile nor was it mentioned in the review but it is up and posted!  It only took me 30 seconds to find no real change in the review scrutiny.

And the next guy comes along wanting it because it is in the review then there's a problem.

IF TER is going to enforce this I would at best expect to start seeing reviews reflect this come through now or in the next few days.

A quick perusal of the Minnesota Top 50 shows only 12 of the 47 non-TS providers have "Yes" or "YMMV" for Greek.  What if a guy puts Greek into a review for one of the other ladies in order to give her a 10, and let's assume you're correct that TER will allow it even though it's not on her menu.  What do you suppose will happen?  I know what will happen.  Other guys will expect trips to Greece with that provider.  Then when she turns them down, they'll be pissed off and downgrade her score.

So given reviews take awhile to be processed, we should start seeing impact very soon.

This whole thing is just going to piss off more ladies and maybe even make some delist.  Interesting will be how TER handles it if a lot of those providers that drive the 10/10 performances start delisting.

I think those reviews will still get through  without Greek in her profile or mention of it in her review.  For the first month or so it might not work out that way, but I think it will eventually be no change.

Before, all it took was claiming that it was available even if it didn't happen.  Now, the review has to say it actually happened.  Time will tell if TER is serious about this and what else might happen because of it.

This is where we are:

1.  9 is not the best possible score; 10 is just going to be more rare now unless there's more than two people involved.  And I'm puzzled by your comment about "unhelpful 8" since you've given only one 9 (published) in the past 2-1/2 years and few 9s overall.  And no 10s.  On the surface, it seems a performance score above 8 isn't too important to you when choosing which providers to see.

My grounds for thinking it is not REALLY that much different is this.  Of all the ladies(escorts) I have seen over half had greek offered on their profile yet only 2 ever offered that up in session.  So how many REALLY offered it to begin with?  I think most often it was there for the opportunity for a point and they had to deal with being asked about it anyway.  When I looked at reviews I always saw YMMV when talking about greek but it was RARE to see it actually included in the happenings of a session.  Did the YMMV mean it happened and they didn't include it or they asked and were turned away and it became a YMMV when put in the review?  The 2 ladies that offered it during the session had it mentioned quite often in their reviews.  The Greek phenomenon has me curious about the arrangements regarding talking sex during scheduling to begin with, but that is for another thread.

I'm fairly new to TER, so I guess this all seems a little silly to me....I know first hand, that anything can be and is written in reviews. And we just have to deal with it. I reported something that was falsely written about me, and it's still there. Reviews are entirely based on opinion...I think a checklist of services provided would be more beneficial, and perhaps a quick explanation, if needed..but we all know what one person enjoys might not be what the next person enjoys. And as a provider, we also perform our best when we have chemistry with someone...and that all starts with the communication ahead of time, and of course cleanliness, etc. Things that are based on opinion shouldn't be rated...but that's just my opinion!

...I was once a member of a board where they went from a 10 point system to a five point whole number system and eliminated appearance scores. The result was that almost every review awarded a perfect 5 for performance. Admin would encourage members who wanted more key info on the woman's appearance to just refer to her TER profile.  

Seriously, did we go back to Rio and I missed it? What is this the gymnastics venue and we're all worried about tenths of a point for not sticking the landing?

Red Flag is the wrong wording.
Too many 10s with no differential. Now 8-9-10 are all great, but you know a 10 might be further down then spectrum than some are comfortable with.

I like to see some variation because I found it improbable that a provider could always be that perfect every time.

a couple of responses
You: "1.  9 is not the best possible score;"  
Me: Yes it is -- in 90% of all encounters. The 90% that don't involve Greek or 3 or more people.

... but based on what you said and your recent reviews, I think I know which two providers you're taliking about. And if they are who I think they are, I can tell you that under the old rules, for one of them 8 is the highest score allowed and under the new rules the highest possible score would be a 7.  And for the second provider, she's eligible for a 9 under both the old and new rules, so if your 9 was rejected TER made a mistake on that one (they do that sometimes--they're human!) and if you want to challenge it you can get the score upped to a 9.  PM me if you have any questions about that.