Wonder of any of you girls has insight into this...

After getting screened, giving great references, a top Los Angeles provider made an appointment with me, only to cancel a few days later saying she had a calendar mix up.  We went back and forth on new times, then out of the blue her new booker emails me and tells me the young woman has decided she doesn't want to meet me at all. I asked for an explanation but got none from either the girl or the booker.

I have never had a bad experience with a provider, have a good deal of reviews in ter, the best references...

Wondering what might have happened?  

I've had the same thing happen to me as well. I think it's maybe because you have no recent reviews. Mine is the same, thus the same as happened to me

But I still have no problem booking.  Maybe that theory, that failure to review caused turndowns, is weak.  Mufftime?  What do you think?

I think we've all had something similar happen. Maybe the girl
heard something negative between the first contact and the
time she decided against the appointment. It has to be an
explanation like that or something similar. There is always a
reason even though we don't know what it is.
Move on.

This sounds very similar to the experience I had recently, except mine went a bit further.  My first experience with this provider happened during her holiday special, I arrived at the location and never received her prearranged text.  After an hour and a half I had to leave and later got an email (not text) apologizing for double booking.  Set up another date a month later, she confirmed again, and this time I waited at the location for 3 hours, no text or email from her whatsoever.  I PM her weeks later with my references again, she tells me she'd love to see me at her new rate and to contact her new booker.  I contact the booker and I'm then told the provider no longer wants to see me; apparently I made her uncomfortable because I kept asking for the holiday rate, even though I never once mentioned the donation.  Later I get a PM from the booker after posting on a discussion board saying she definitely doesn't want to see me now because I was whining.  Needless to say I'm staying far away from this provider.

Im so sorry about your difficulty. These difficulties seem to happen rather too frequently. But please tell me, why do you guys keep booking these girls who stand you up and treat you like garbage? There's so many of us who will treat you like a king and be professional and grateful for your business. I averaged about 4 appointments this month. But I see many of you are being stood up while a girl like me is alone. You know the ones here who will come thru for you. Myself, Ashley, Kate, Carla.. I can't remember them all but they post here on the discussion board and are reliable and friendly. I've never met such sweet loving women ever before as I have here in LA. Who are these girls you are picking? Try sticking with the ones proven reliable and who love this job and love you wanting us. Goodness, I can't remember the last time I DIDN'T bend over backwards to please my gentleman.


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Frankly, you're nuts!  I invoke The University of Chicago Rule: if the professor is 15 minutes late for class, I'm gone...!  The Cap'n Has Spoken!

There are so many terrific providers, with hot bodies, beautiful faces and wonderful attitudes, WHY ON EARTH would you rebook with a no show?  Absurd!

If you go to a restaurant and get shitty service, do you go back?  Not in NYC or LA or Chicago, where there are hundreds of great joints dying to give you superb service and terrific eats.

TCHS

I can't believe that the posters were that dumb!   Sure, there are some very attractive women who provide great services here .... but to be treated like that?  C'mon!  Man up!

Waiting 90 minutes ... and then waiting again for 3 hours?  WTF?  You're the customer!!!!  Take your money and find someplce else to spend it.

Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.

I use the 15minute rule also. If after 15min you have not called to say you're late or need to cancel I consider you a FLAKE and proceed with my day (usually very annoyed, LOL).

Thus far since I began independent I have only had one mix up and he didn't mean to oversleep and made up for the mix up.

Agreed!

In fact, maybe if you guys OUTED these ladies who refuse to see you with NO EXPLANATION the might stop because word will be out that they are difficult (and you might save some people a lot of time and energy).

That's what I was just thinking. Or are there rules against this on this board? I have seen other reviewers complain before about ladies--at least write a review and state that she was a no show.

Unfortunately, in this business a Flake can do well.
I use the Top 100 Providers List" as a guideline only.  Ya don't have to be an Analytical Statistician, to realize the top 10 or 20 ladies generally have only 20 to 40 reviews.  Flash-in-the-pan?  Maybe.  A new young hot lookin' chick great service at a bargain introductory rate, is going to get her share of 10 / 10's.  Especially if she solicits only 10 / 10's (it's been known to happen).
BUT it's the test of time that truly determines of a lady is a Classic True Top Provider.  A lady with 100+ reviews, may have her share of 10 /10'S, BUT will also have mostly the more realistic 9/9.  
This drops her average, and puts her further done the list.  That's just the way it is.
Read the reviews!  Not the 4 liners.  But the REAL Reviews.  



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Life is good

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but i would add:  name the provider.  who's rude enough to make you waste your time with such a lame excuse afterwards?  help us avoid this flake!

I was surprised he still tried to book her a third time.  Waiting 3 hours?  Fuck that noise.  I may have waited 30 minutes tops, if that.

You can't submit a review on someone you didn't meet.

It is not my intention to "out" any girl for her behavior - she may have had her reasons.  Just to ask other providers their opinions on what might have happened, since I'd already been screened and approved.

Maybe she was cheap? LOL..

Hmm, I thought you could if they stood you up. Which this guy was.

But yes, you can post your bad luck on a discussion board. However, that is seen by other women, and it can also bite you in the bum later on when trying to book somebody else, as they fear you. Make decisions wisely gentlemen.

While you had every right to say what you did, she may have seen your score and decided it wasn't worth risking. Which would say to me, that she doubts her own abilities to please. If she was confident in her looks and performance, then she would not fear a bad score. You have enough reviews to show that you are a fair kind of reviewer. You are not a hard to please person, as you balance your low score with many good reviews. Any provider who is genuine would be able to see that you are a fair person. And yes, there is a little game some play of wanting to get 10s so that they can make the top 100. As someone said, offering specials and incentives can get what they need. When you make top 100 you get more exposure and more business. I have written staff about my disapproval in this system. When the top 100 of the USA list was first created, the line up was different. It looked at the amount of reviews first, then the scores. The top 5 of the USA consisted of Niki Avalon, Betty SNJ, Gina Rollins, Myself at number 5, and another girl I can't remember who. This list was left up a couple days, then the new list adjusted the old list and made it so that only 20 reviews gets you on this list. It is not easy to have 100 or so reviews with high scores. If you see this, then you know that this girl is a sure bet and something special, however, It is easy as pie to get 20 reviews of 10's. Any new girl off the block can spring up twenty 10s.

The original prerequisites of the list made things much more accurate then it does now.


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I wonder if the new booker  just has more stringent requirements to book? Or if she is that much in demand she can afford to see whoever she wants. It is possible she doesn't care for your physical features. When it comes down to it, it is their decision and it is hard to blame a provider or a booker for doing what they feel is best for them. Safety first. Now I am not trying to slight you at all. I had a very nice provider turn me down until she felt comfortable enough and I don't feel I am a  bad guy.

Then you started to look like a stalker. An hour and 1/2 and 3 hours and then posting.  Your looking that way to me dude.
No offense meant.

I agree. I have had top 100 providers in no way shape or form should be there.

Wow, I never thought this would cause such a firestorm.  I feel I need to clarify a few things.

1. Some providers are known for being up to an hour late, once you've gleaned that info from the reviews you go into it knowing that it's part of the deal.  I've had to wait an hour for my physician so it's not out of the ordinary; not ideal, but it happens.

2. I was there for three hours the second time around, but I was ready to leave an hour earlier and would have if I hadn't struck up a conversation with a couple of women at the bar.

3. Both times when confirming she said she was looking forward to seeing me, there was no indication that there was any issue with me whatsoever, and everything seemed on the up and up.  Our only contact has been through email and PM.  If she didn't want to see me she should have said so.

4. I surely didn't expect a different result the third time around, after reading her apology on this board I was mostly curious to see if she was sincere.

Moving on.

I think Cameo nailed it.  I wrote one poor review of a girl recently, which I rarely do. I felt compelled to tell the truth as I saw it, because my first priority on this site is to give the same info I expect to get from my fellow hobbysts. I have gotten so many Pm's thanking me for telling the truth on that one, and am getting just as many on this posting, despite me trying to be discrete ad not naming the girl. The fact that its so easy for people to guess who she is because they have had a similar situation with her, is telling.

My intention was not to out a girl, or even to vent.  Thank you, Cameo, for the best guess!  Your thoughtfulness makes me want to meet you all the more!

While the "agenda girls" might not like me mentioning the agenda, I'm not really all that concerned about burning bridges with fakes in the biz. I'm happy enough building and restoring bridges with the lovely genuine wonderful people in this little parallel universe. So, on that note... Here I go

Your reviews are consistently fair and you overall, give good scores and any girl who is genuine can see that it's fine to see you. If you were booking me, I would read your low score review, and 2 of your good reviews, and consider If you had a fair rating method. While of course even genuine girls don't want bad reviews or unfair scores, they will take the time to read why you were unhappy and compare with how you reacted on other dates. Someone who has a mixed bag will tell me that they are maybe sensitive & really want a good encounter. Since I know I deliver that, then a few low scores on their belt won't scare me off. As is for most clear headed well meaning and genuine women. But the ones with an agenda are not going to bother taking the time to read 3 of your reviews and compare. They just won't bother at all seeing you. That's why many men dont review at all. They don't want the drama that comes along with it. I like when a man has reviews as it's easier to screen. I also like men without reviews but who have joined a verification site. If he has no reviews, then I suggest joining p411 verification for fast screening.

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I think if the guy has a legitimate gripe, he should be honest and post the name of the person. A good provider has no reason to fear a good client who has had a bad time.

There are reasons, explanations and rules regarding why it is not good policy to what is being suggested here in this forum.
Possibly in another forum for that secure purpose perhaps would be better but for now here is the problem with 'legitimacy in any one person pointing fingers at any one person.

Example:
Not saying all, in all forums but there are some that have agenda's.

Or might be fanfare of certain providers that might believe they are looking into their {provider-pick's} best interests {if you will} by knocking a select group of contrasting providers or another way to say it "the competition"!

Yes believe it or not, I have seen clients literally saying nasty articles about their provider’s competition just to drive more business in other directions.

Who is really to say that any one person is really throwing out to any particular forum "the whole truth and nothing but the truth"?
Who is to say that person does not just want to get a rise out of the crowd, probably knowing that there are those that will take the bone [no pun intended] and run with it.
Who is to say that they do not lean towards exaggeration or that they embellish most everything they say or are in truth just pathological liars?
The answer is; no one, unless they know them on a personal level;
Then again what would any real friend do for another true friend, of course the obvious, back them up no matter the outcome?
So to say the friend commenting says a {little white lie about any person} in the forum, the first thing the “true” friend is going to do for their friend {knowing full and well it is a lie} is to whole heartedly back them up no matter the outcome!
If it has not already begun;
A witch hunt, then ensues!

One reviewer in particular has told me not to post on the forums but I feel it’s right to cover this and never discuss it again. Unfortunately I do have reasons as to why I won’t see everyone. I have limited time each week outside of my personal life and when a hobbyist continuously cancels on me over the period of half of a year, I eventually become uninterested in seeing them.

As far as the cancellations, NCNS, and extreme lateness goes….. I am very sorry for putting everyone through this. None of it is intentional. I’m quite the perfectionist and wind up late for a few reasons. Preparing to make our rendezvous 100% worth your time and as memorable as possible are the main reasons why. I would feel undeserving of the donation if I was on time but not all was perfect.

My new booker does inform every person who books that I tend to run 45 minutes late. It's ultimately up to the potential client to decide if they want to continue booking with me or not. Yes I'm aware that most men would never wait that long for a provider and most hobbyists will chime in to say they won’t wait. I am 100% completely fine with not seeing these people and losing their business. There are countless self-promoting prompt ladies on this board eagerly waiting for clients to call them. Please go see them instead. But as for me, I meet with select few, wonderful gentlemen who are very patient with my chronic lateness and I truly appreciate their kindness. I have a very busy life and there's a good reason for every single thing that I do but I don't need to explain them.

Cameo, your post was beyond inaccurate. I ran the holiday special for a personal situation at that time. There was no agenda for reviews. In fact, I would never willingly put myself through such stress and chaos for reviews. The only reason I continued to run the special until the end of the month was to follow through with the rate I promised.

Hope this helps..

Miss Blaire, I have not implied your name and not sure Why you would take my wide overall advice as targeting you. You were not and never were or have been on my mind. Tho I do recongize some of your promotion techniques, im not one to make enemies of women. Ive seen posts disappear with your name on them so please don't drag my name into anything you personally deal with. I don't think that Tardiness is too serious a problem in LA, because we all know about the traffic here. I know many great girls can run late. But as long as you keep your client informed on your progress and soothe his distress, you will be ok. Please keep in mind your experience verses mine. You are certainly very pretty, with good reviews, and have men fall in love with you. I congratulate you on that. But after 6 years, I do know the business, and after 200 reviews, I don't kiss up or care too much about offending anyone up to playing a game. We all learn by experience. I made mistakes in my beginning too. I'm happy to help women and men anytime I can. If you took this personal, perhaps it's a wake up call to adjust certain things. But that would be your call, since I wasn't referring to you when I wrote this. In general, I will only bring up a girl's name if I have something good to say about her. I never trash anyone, so you don't need to be worried or paranoid about me, ok?

Best wishes. You and I should probably avoid each others posts doll

You know when it comes right down to it, you both have intent and purpose in posting what you did or you wouldn't post on this board. It is just a sly and sneaky way that you did it. Any provider at any time has the right to not see some one. Lick your wounds and move on. Anond, it is not like you were waiting in the lobby like 56028. 56028, you have yourself to blame. With one hand you are telling us about a 3 hour wait with for a provider and now you met 2 chicks in the bar. So what was your intent in mentioning the 3 hour wait on the 1st post.  You both get what you deserve, and in this case it appears you get nothing.

The smugness and elitist attitude expressed by some of the posters is:  Mind-Boggling.

I’m goin’ to the Beach…  Adios Muchachos    The Vet

Since I started this thread I think it only fair I get a last word. Thanks for the constructive comments. Not so grateful for people who make personal attacks.

End of story.

Spoken like a true lackey, now she's got you doing her dirty work.  I only report the truth for the benefit of other TER brothers, and in doing so I've shown more consideration than this provider ever has.  Have you completely forgotten the purpose of this website?  You got lucky and got in, now get yourself a spine and man up.

Dude, you had intent and purpose in posting and you know it. Look at your very first post on this board. I am sure you have had other cancellations but you complain on this board. Why don't we all start complaining?