I must say I am bit surprised we have not the issue addressed from the perspective of the ladies especially those whose profiles indicate a spicy and adventures extensive menu.

They may want to share their experiences .

Me too.

I do not know if that serves any purpose.

If the issue is safety seek another hobby. Otherwise your every activity with a provider ddfk,bbbj, rimming, daty , p2p  increases the risks you are taking; bbfs is only one more notch. If you are practicing the rest you are already in danger zone.

Do you know what your ATF is doing with her other clients?

I've been hobbying for a while now and there was never offers of BBFS until just recently. Yes it is happening ok, I've had a couple of K-providers (from 2 different agencies) ask if I wanted to just continue the session with no hat, and I was shocked at the very question. I didn't accept of course, but the fact I was even asked that was scary as hell. Everyone beware if a provider says "your the only one" or "im clean baby, no problem" because that's bullcrap. I care about my body, so I probably will start seeing a higher class of provider now that this dangerous trend has poped up among the k-providers.

and NO, I WILL NOT PM YOU THE NAMES OF THE PROVIDERS SO DON'T ASK.

I've been hobbying for a while and agree, we all need to be safe.  Please PM name, I'd like to avoid.  Can't afford to bring home any unwanted consequences.

Noseriously, take a reality check.  Being a "john" is criminal, women selling their bodies for money is criminal.... well, maybe both are misdemeanors.

Having sex is risky PERIOD.  Whether with a pro or a non pro.  You don't know where that pussy has been and speculating statistics is mere pontifcation.  Basically as worthless as Kodak stock is now.

I knew a girl who got the lifelong herpes from a Guy when she was 18.  Said it was her first time having sex.  If the Guy knew then it was criminal.  Proving he knew is something else.

I've known men and women who played a lot and have been disease free.  They are now in their 60's.

The only thing that is criminal is if someone knows they have a disease and is actively trying to pass it to others.

Just because someone fucks 100+ different people every month does not mean they have a sex disease.

Again, if its a concern then who is more at fault, the girl who bare backs with abandon, or the Guy who willingly puts his prick in that girl.  If lack of condom is the concern, then wrap it up yourself.  There is no legal clause stating that a prostitute has to wrap your wiener.

Real interesting seeing how many people are requesting names.  We'll never know the truth behind those inquiries.   Hope the girl is prepared.

Ditto, to below and above

its just disconcerting...

Id like to know whom it is so I can stay away from , and if ive seen, make sure I dont go back....

pm please...thx

pls send me the names as well...

are guys requesting names so that they can book a visit or are they truly trying to avoid?  

be honest guys!?!?!?!?!?!?

me too.  pm me.  i want to avoid.

I would appreciate a PM as well so i can avoid them. I hobby to reduce stress...

Hi,

If she is in the Korean culture, please let me know so that I can cross her off. I had this happen to me once before with great shock. No need to ask for her name as she is no longer providing...

Wow ,how fortunes change in one month,in case you forgot let me remind you and please do not take personally but consistency boost credibility.

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Disappointed by lack of providers lately in Los Angeles area.
Posted 1/2/2012 at 2:26:42 PM
PCell1337
Reviews: 7

The last couple weeks I've had a HORRIBLE time trying to setup an appointment with any providers here in LA. Just to give you an idea of what I mean, I made a list of about 40 providers in my area that had been recently reviewed that I wanted to see. I called every number down that list and out of that, only 3 numbers actually picked up to a live person and out of that no girls were available. I took the day off work TWICE in hopes of hooking up with a provider and both days were completely wasted as no girls have been available. One booker said all 4 of his girls were out sick. A couple other bookers weren't pleased with my references and never called me back. I would say... about HALF the numbers I called were completely out of service.

I'll tell you, it didn't used to be like that even 6 months ago. I remember booking was so easy and almost every number someone answered the phone. So my question is, did something change in the industry or are TER reviewers just bullshitting their reviews? Perhaps writing reviews for providers that don't even have working phone numbers. I'm telling you there's no way all those numbers could not be working yet those girls are getting new reviews every week, it just doesn't make sense.

I got so desperate this one night, I started calling backpage listings that had no reviews on TER because I was determined to do something with my day, but the prices were OUTRAGEOUS and the providers seemed REAL shady and unprofessional so I didn't do it.

I notice a lot of girls will wrap you up for cbj, but then lick your balls.... is that unsafe for the guy?  
How unsafe is dfk?
or covered intercourse....

You never know who the hell is PM'ing you for info. A lot of these requests can all be handled through the back channel!

I am betting a majority of these looking for names to avoid are actually trying to find out who has gotten BBFS or who is giving BBFS.

Be careful of what info you give, because it will be a two edged sword. Rumors and innuendo and all kinds of stuff will start flying about which provider did what which may be true or not.

Personally, I feel that whoever threw out a specific group out there did it with malice and this is the end result.

We all know it is out there but it should be discussed reasonably and responsibly.

Once again, BE AWARE and recognize who you are giving info to and about and the consequences intended or unintended.


Beemer.

in my pre K-doll days with home grown independent providers. It is one of reasons I jumped at the opportunity be part of the K-doll scene.

Beemer is right on this issue (except the part about being malice toward k-providers). DO NOT SPREAD INFORMATION on who is giving BBFS, some of the guys who want this contact info just want to (foolishly) take advantage of it for themselves. A lifetime of disease and pain is not worth a couple minutes of knocking boots...

Now having said that. The fact is, it needs to be talked about and I appuald OP for having the guts to bring this topic to light and say what some of us already knew but were too chickenshit to say. I've had 3 providers offer 'suicide style' now, so obviously people are going to start getting STDs. This had never happened before in past times hobbying, it's a recent thing. So guys need to be aware, you should all think twice about even the standard DATY, French Kiss, and BBBJ. I have a buddy who saw one of the same providers I did and we both got offered BBFS, so things are getting dangerous with k-p's right now. That is a fact, and there's no malice behind mentioning it. It's happening ok and hobbyist should be aware.

Fellow hobbyist: Instead of asking me for their contact info, just avoid risky habits while visiting k-p's. If you protect yourself, you'll minimize your chance of catching anything bad. If you contact me asking for details, I'm just gonna ignore you.

I've not given out any information.  I agree with the above poster, that it should be the client's responsibility to communicate he wants the wrapper.  We were in the middle of the P2P slide, which is actually dangerous.

I have an idea.  Perhaps the moderator, or someone so selected as responsible, could be the keeper of the information, and actually phone the booker and let her know that the girl is on notice.  And if he gets repeated info on her, she gets delisted from TER.

I think something sensible and UTR the could/should be done.

I'm not giving up any details, but I've come across maybe 10 over 4-5 years.  Don't know what their motivation was, but probably some commonality, but no doubt differences because they each have their own minds and sets of circumstances.  So, I don't know if we suddenly have something new that's busting out all over, but hopefully not.  As a others have said, there's a risk and you need to take care of yourself and assume not everyone else is.

-- Modified on 2/3/2012 7:01:33 AM

First of all, to the OP of this post.  You're telling me you did not know that you did not have a condom on?  That is completely unbelievable.  You're telling me, you never noticed that she did NOT put a condom on you?  I just don't see how that is even possible, unless you have actually no sensation on your dick whatsoever.  I'm pretty sure I know when a girl is putting a condom on me, surreptitiously or otherwise.  I think it's a troll post.

And for those of you who are so concerned for the safety for yourself and the community and would like to know the name of this supposedly BBFS provider, I call BS.  You only want to know because you yourself would like to try to see if you yourself can get BBFS.  Many of you guys already love getting bbbj, p2p, etc., and you live dangerously enough that way, now you just want the next level.  I see right through you.  Please.  STFU.

And for all those who really are concerned for your own safety, get out of the game.  Any skin to skin contact, exchange of bodily fluids, can cause you to get a variety of STDs.  You guys are all doing BBBJ, DFK, DATY, etc.   The Hobby is risky.  Plain fact.  BBFS or not.  Get out, go back home.  Jack off to porn.  100% safe, except when your wife or kid walks in on you, so lock the door.

As long as there is hobbying, there is always going to be and element of BBFS going on, and it's not just the asian marketplace.  Don't believe for a moment it's just a k-girl thing.  Money talks.

The last three K-providers *in a row* have offered me BBFS.  Before that, zero offers in years of hobbying.  Never even came up.  It's like the K-girl union passed out a memo that BB is officially on the menu now.

Clearly they have decided that BB is needed to compete in the market, and *clearly* there are many many mongers taking them up on it.

These are dangerous times, my brothers.

IMO your conclusions are off base and very indicative of the "chicken little" mentality that is now cropping up. BB has been around no matter what the providers ethnicity.


Clearly you are trying to inflame the situation by making these stupid allegations. It is irresponsible and plain stupid.


Beemer

Looking over your review list, it seems exclusively K-girl.  Are you really not seeing a dramatic increase in BBFS offers?

Maybe something is off with your pecker?  The smell, perhaps.

What I get offered and what I decline is my business. Apparently you wanting to sniff my dick seems to be something you want to be a part of.

Your kidding yourself if you think that this doesn't occur in general . Does anyone really know if a provider has bb intercourse with a SO and if so is he being monogamous or is he having bb intercourse with other people without her knowledge. That's not a far fetched scenario. Play safe.

The worst, of course, are these white girls that are bb'ed by their low-life daddy.  Talk about a std vector...I'd take a k-girl any day over that.

I concur. However the OP said she surprised him and didn't offer it initially. That's a HUGE concern and conscious members should be aware. Just my two cents.

More asinine circular reasoning.  By your reasoning, every provider and every client should be engaging in whatever activities they feel like without any boundaries, because as you said, "if the issue is safety, seek another hobby".  So in your line of reasoning nobody has any responsibility to be safe at all.

Well, guess what? Where do you think that will leave all of us in one year?

Ball licking is fairly safe for you (risk is herpes). More unsafe for her (lip herpes, warts, some minor others)

Covered sex is also fairly safe (herpes again, molluscum contagious, genital warts with skin to skin, many more if you have any cuts or irritated skin that's permeable when woman's "wetness" comes in contact with you.

Use your big head my man , by now you should know that hobbying is not risk free , and every time a provider with a "standard gfe service" she taking a risk which if materializes can be passed on to you.it is a case of Russian roulette nothing less nothing more. Get tested regularly . If these facts are too much for you seek an alternative hobby.

Thanks for the info and taking it seriously (sometimes you only get joke answers to serious questions)

Is there any particular thing that makes the balls more risky then getting licked say on the chest.... how risky is ball licking (to the guy getting his balls licked).. is it a low percentage?  
how would you get herpes from covered sex?  skin contact?

In my opinion, herpes is almost as scary as some of the other diseases as it would make you a pariah and it's not curable.

Ball licking is low risk, but still there is a risk. Put it this way, if you see that a girl has a "cold sore" on her lips, You don't want her giving you a bbbj or ball licking. That's just asking for getting herpes.   But a girl can still give herpes to you from P2P (privates to privates) skin to skin contact even if there is no obvious "sore"

Quite right.  I have only ever caught one (and that was enough) STD.  It was the clap and I got it from a BBBJ.  I fucked the girl with a condom and it was only brief because she was sore. I guess it could have gone through the condom, but it's a very small % likelihood.