Anyone who reads my reviews knows that I, like most older guys, relish a good DATY experience during my Kgirl sessions.  However, the recent "explosion" in the number of girls in LA that apparently have BBFS on their regular menu for any swinging dick that walks through the door has given me pause to consider the safety aspect of DATY.  

trying to get me to quit! 😄

For the love of god one more time, please stop mention bbfs it is godly disusting in my eyes and it is a taboo word that should not be mentioned once. I saw the trend here, you kept brought up the topic, I'm not sure what the hell are you trying to do. I'm done with the non sense, are you trying to destroy these k girls? Also how the fuck do you know bbfs is on the menu? Did you try? Someone told you? Stop it please just stop it. If you did that's good for you.

... because I'm a far lower-volume guy than most who post here (once in a couple of months if the financial and scheduling gods are smiling) and because I'm not in or near LA. But I think my approach would be to identify and avoid those, as you put it, open-menu girls to the extent I can, keep my mouth and gums in good shape (seriously), and for the rest not worry about it. DATY is pretty low-risk as these things go.

A hobbyist that likes Kgirls AND also sees TS-girls might consider a mouthful of jizz from a Kgirl's VJ as an added BONUS without an upsell!!!  Its all a matter of perspective, I guess.  

Between trannies and the morons from the other site that bang street walkers and backpage chicks that take appointments in apartment complex laundry rooms, you're going to convince me it's time to hang up the jimmy.

1) yes

I've thought about this too, but I don't usually DATY. One option is set first appointment and hope no previous action from a friend with benefit or boyfriend in the morning.  

be a pussy. Come out from behind the alias if you're going to call someone out. You have absolutely no credibility when you hide like a little bitch.

If you're going to call me out, that you not be a coward and use your real handle and not your alias.  For all we know, you're part of the problem on the other site. If you want to be credible here, you need to show who you are so we can see your reviews and know you're a real hobbyist and not some lurker jacking off in your mom's basement.  

Ain't going to happen. The real problem here is that I'm sick of this guy due to the fact that he keeps making this bbfs popular and ruin the fun for the rest of us.

You are right, you can say whatever you want. I felt sorry for all these k girls trying to make us happy and this guy keep spreading viruses/bbfs news around and ruin these girl's reputation.

I would add that all the girls said my love juice tasted good compared to other guys^^

and ruined her reputation.  If you can't, then you are talking out your ass, making false accusations, and should STFU while you can.  

but more from the realization that I've been at this too lonnggg a time,  enjoyed countless women, got tested regularly & always clean ... until finally concluding we only stop Risky behavior when our luck runs out --- OR we choose to Stop.  I have chosen to Stop before my luck runs out.

BBFS has been popular with prostitution customers for 5000 years. I'm NOT the one making it popular, although I should probably be flattered that you think I have that much pull around here.  

Cleanup time not being long enough. When I started doing this, the standard break was 30 min, but 90% of my hobbying was in OC.  Then I started coming to LA more and encountering 15 min breaks. Now it's 10 min. I had a girl last week tell me that sometimes she gets only a minute or two, and has to sneak the cleanup time in after the NEXT customer gets out of the shower. The message I got from that is DON'T do DATY unless you have watched her clean up first.

You and I are new here.   Not a good way to make friends with the neighbors.  BTW, some of us have had more than 70 girls a year.  Averages out to just more than one per week.  Not impressive.

That I haven't been to an AMP in nine years. I only do AAMPs and some of the excellent indie Asian providers we have here.  I still do 5-6 hours a week, so my dick may yet fall off. I just want it to be from exhaustion and not an STD.  However, thus thread is about not putting my tongue into a cum-filled hole, both from a disease point of view and a gross-out factor.

Motivated me to start this thread.  I get a feeling of dread sometimes and wonder if I'm hastening my expiration date by taking these risks.

I never liked the idea of deep French kissing any of the working girls who had their tongue up somebody's ass 10 minutes before I got there. I have been a fan of DATY.  Not only does it help get her going, it helps get me going. This bareback full section shit is giving me bad thoughts.  I hope the bookers will start policing the practice. Eventually it will screw up their business if someone gets aids.

that besides the ones most of seem to know about there are many more
who are basically UTR and unknown to most hobbyists besides the few
that they service that way. Let's not fool ourselves into  thinking  that just  
because we haven't heard them mentioned on various discussion boards
or have even heard that they don't do  it, that it isn't happening.
That my fellow hobbyists is a fact.
If safety is a concern,
1. A  first appointment of the day will avoid anyone's creampie.  
2. Don't DATY anyone.  
You never can be sure.

Maybe time to move?  Taxes have to be killing you out there.  At least in another state, you are not being screwed while you screw.

is not just trying to stay safe with what we know, its that we don't know what it is that we don't know.  As you say, the UTR / YMMV girls have always been the safest ticket.

A lot of these girls have boyfriends, and you have no idea if her BF left you a "surprise" ten minutes before your "first appointment of the day"

How many of the girls, especially Kgirls  most of whom who haven't even been here that long,
are being fucked all night or in the morning  before work  by a BF when they've been
fucking mongers of all shapes and sizes all day.  If you really experienced that then I guess you didn't mind
the jiz dripping from their twats into your mouth after they put in a hard day's work.
I think I have a much better shot at not getting someone's drippings being first of the
day than you did by obviously being the last of the day.

as for me being the "last one" of the day, I am not the one whining about hookers seeing other guys before me.  

It wasn't me who was whining. I was just responding. If anyone is worried then
either be first of the day or don't do it. Sounds like you would be surprised at
how  many don't have a BF or don't have the time or inclination for one. As far  
as four or five in one day on not an infrequent basis, I guess this really is, as  
TER describes itself, a fantasy board. An hour for each appointment with travel time  
in between, either you're fantasizing or a two minute man. And based on what you  
said I guess you don't mind the jiz from other mongers coming home at night.  
This thread has gone from the ridiculous to the sublime.

First off, I probably should have said "I used to" see four or five women a day on not an infrequent basis, as at my current "advanced age" three a day seems to be about my limit. AND this is not something that I did at home here in the states.  

... if it might do you good to take a break for a while?

Not interested in getting into destroying K-girls, etc. or any G-Girl's ability to make a living, just responding to doing DATY more safely for those who may fear BBFS---just insert an FC2, THEN your tongue down to its roots---LOL---just like with any muscle, your tongue will soon look like Arnold on steroids;P~~~  

asking me to not eat anymore.  Its part of my weekly routine.  The dilemma I my desire to see some of the top rated girls, but many of these become top rated because of their liberal menu.  I know I must go with lower volume girls that are UTR as Mufftime suggests below.  These will be second tier girls with excellent service and indies that only see two or three customers a day on the days they work.  The girls I have reviewed recently show I am already gravitating in that direction.  I will have to be content that I at least got to see  SOME of the great ones before they went crazy with open menu and/or got outed by the assholes on the "We Love STD's Site."  

outside K-girlfriend are consistent with my own.  I will add that after they have banged a whole day of  guys and come home to their Ktown apartment, they are in no rush to cleanup and can take all of the time they want to make sure they're not serving me a "cum-dripping" pussy, even if they were a girl that has an open menu, which is not the kind of girls I date on the outside.  But as Mufftime suggests, sometimes they are physically exhausted and I would prefer not to have sex with them in that state even though they offer.  They do seem to get their second wind when coming home to their RL boyfriend, though.   I wait until morning when we can knock off a few rounds when they're fresh.  Then I will drop them off a few miles away at the MW incall location, or on to WLA if I have time.  Otherwise, I put them in a Korean taxi and lock up for them after they leave.  Sometimes they clean up before then leave the apartment and other times they say they will clean out my load before the first customer shows up.  I think they probably do, so even though, technically, the first customer of the day is not getting a pussy that hasn't been creamed that day, I think as Mufftime says, its a hell of a lot cleaner than at four o'clock in the afternoon IF she's an open menu girl, which none of mine have been, so I don't even think about it.  I will admit that when I'm staying three or four nights a week at a K-girlfriend's apartment, I offer to split the rent with them so I can leave some of my clothes there.  Some will accept the financial help, and others won't as a misguided show that they are not after my money, just me.  Or at least they want me to THINK they are not just after the money, so I play along.  Lol

I invited you yesterday to explain WHY you think discussing BBFS on this forum is going to "ruin your fun."  I'm serious that we are all interested in hearing what your reasons are.  If you can't point to anything negative in the way of potential consequences, then it makes you look like Chicken Little.  Do you have a coherent reason why you don't think it should be discussed here, or where you just whining in general?

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We only have their word as to what their menu really is and in this business
the truth is sometimes a concept not understood or not part of their reality.    
I only met one girl who admitted to at least several BBFS partners and I'm sure  
that number was grossly exaggerated to the down side. So just remember if she
does it with a " customer"  even after hours there are probably more "customers"
falling into that  category.
Suzanne Massie, a writer in Russia, met with President Ronald Reagan many times between 1984 and 1987. She taught him the Russian proverb, "Доверяй, но проверяй" {Doveryai, no proveryai} (trust, but verify).
Some things are just not verifiable.

Is pretty good and I intend to keep it that way.  If you read my post, it only says I do not have outside relationships with liberal open-menu girls, NOT that I think I'm the only one getting BBFS.  However, I do think in these instances I AM the only one getting BBFS without paying during the time she is my outside girlfriend.  

We would spend the night together almost every night, at least six nights a week for close to a year, she told me she "didn't want my money" after knowing me less than two weeks and she never asked nor took a penny from me for the entire time we were together after that.  

No approval or disapproval. It's just a business built on lies.
Once they start they don't stop.
Maybe you are unique and you were the only whose  
money she didn't want.
As I said earlier we all have our fantasies.

So many 'mistruth' I've been told over the years to get me back.  David Lettermen would be proud of the list.  Let's at least admire the clarity of this statement.

I was planning on seeing an Asian girl from  agency here in Boston, but could not do it after reading the posts here and the posts on the "STD bottom feeder" site. After research found a bunch of girls here also worked on the west coast and I just could not do it. The "bottom feeder" site lists girls who offer BBFS on first visit or the girls that offer after the first date and from the posts, you can tell there is plenty of girls that are doing it.

That other site is so inaccurate for the ones they say do and the ones
they say don't. You're right about it being a bottom feeder site where
guys like to have others think that they have BBFS when in reality they
don't and vice versa.  The craze is only because of that site but it's  
been around for a long time. At least as long as I've been around the
hobby. Don't believe anything or at least almost anything you read
on discussion boards. Remember TER advertises itself as a fantasy
board and from what you've been reading that point has certainly
been made.

If you want to see dishonesty, try the stripper world. Hookers by and large are pretty straight forward, we give them money, they give us pussy. What's not to like or be confused about?

Some cannot separate reality from fantasy so they don't want to be reminded of this and kill their GFE joy. I can completely forget reality when I see them. Posts like this give me a wake-up call BEFORE I see them.

Agree with mufftime, dancebbking, and the vets here. I will make a new year resolution to stop DATY. I already see top tier girls less often and want first appointment with new or UTR girls when I can. This is nothing new because I already considered the risks and throw them out the window when I see K-girls. Ignorance is bliss in a session.

Hey there, first of all, I got nothing on you. You are a great human and a brother of mine because we are in this field together. The real deal here is that you let other people know bbfs is on menu which I'm not sure if it real to fake because I have never tried it before and I will never dare to do so. I don't want to get blacklisted. People will assume it is on menu and will seek for it. I can already feel these poor k girls are suffering because all the fucktard out there are already seeking/forcing for it.  

I'm talking early 80's, pre-HIV, I was a merchant seaman and discovered my fetish for Asian women. Taiwan, Korea, Philippines. It was always BBFS. At the time, early 20's, "they got penicillin for that" was my attitude. Thankfully, the only thing I ever got was a bad case of the crabs (Panama).  

if a K-girl offers BBFS or not. You may do yourself a disservice and miss out on some great girls. The hobby is risky, even BBBJ, so I stop worrying. If I do, I will not DATY or be very selective and check her pussy like a doctor.
 
Retirement crossed my mind for 2 seconds from this thread. Couple hours after I said I will stop DATY, I already forgot and went down on a K-girl again! I didn't even have the discipline to follow my own safety protocol that I mentioned here
 
People lie and you can't verify unless you experience it. It is also YMMV. Just because some say she does not, does not mean it is true. Read mufftime’s "The reality is" and dancebbq09 posts carefully.
 
I will not name that other site because they start to realize outing K-girls publicly attracts clueless newbies and ruin their own game. They will just take it to their PM network. Even TER may also have such a PM network. Good luck looking for intel.

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