Dated one of the top rated/popular younger KGirls in bay area from 2017. She worked for about 3 months total then quit and we have been together since. Overall happy in general but having been addicted to KGirls for 3 years before that, sometimes I get really bad cravings and end up browsing these forums and fantasizing about that life again. In general I do miss talking in the community with like minded people. Also never imagined myself in this situation before and had never considered dating a KGirl before meeting my current SO. I am also still younger than 30.  

We technically still call each other bf/gf since the marriage was to help with green card/visa issues. She's now here with a green card since 1.5 years ago. Although I have met her family and her mine. Have a prenup signed as well for financial safety.  

the body of the post says she's his SO.  Liars can never keep their stories straight, in this case even in the same thread, lol.

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SO means significant other which includes spouse. I don't have any reason to lie about it and would not get anything out of that either.

While I really want to believe you guys have found each other and all that stuff, it sounds to me more like she used you and marriage to get a green card. Which is a fairly common thing for working girls here.  

PMed you more details for clarity since I don't want to post too many public details on forum.

Kgirls off the clock --- can you explain to me how you did this? I'd love to do it.

Sounds like a nice arrangement to me. She got a green card. He got a pre-nup and at home sex with a lady he likes. Probably about the same financial commitment. But now he’s hit the tough issue: monogomy or variety.

are you really telling the truth!

Years back, I was offered decent money, more than once, to marry an immigrant (K and Cs).  I declined each time. It was my understanding that the American guy bears all responsibility for the Asian gal, even if they divorce. Even if she gets a green card. Even if she becomes a citizen. If she ever goes on dole, the government can go after the guy to recover those payments.

what have you done to yourself man!!!!

"S.O. -  
Abbreviation for "Significant Other". The gender-neutral way to refer to someone's boy/girlfriend.  
per The Grammar Nazi @ urbandictionary.com"   The woman to whom you are married is Always referred to as your wife/spouse/or even better half, but Never your SO, unless you are trying hide that you are married & therefore somewhat 'more available'

Hey, so not sure I'm ready to marry a Kgirl, but OTC time with Kgirls sounds like something I'd love to try...

I'd imagine it would start with seeing her regularly so as to build your relationship, which would be difficult in the NE as providers usually stay for 2 week stretches.

I guess it's not in line with the formal definition, but I understand SO as including a spouse.

Certainly there is no way the government could hold you responsible for another citizen who used a public support program they are legally entitled to access. Nor can they require a couple stay married forever just because one started out as an immigrant.

You can search the forum here but the simple answer is don't go there. If any of the girls have an interest they will bring it up. If they do, proceed with caution -- it might not be what you think. However, none are likely to do so if you're putting on any big acts about your self or what you think of them.

I would agree with this. I never went into an appointment looking for anything and if you try to force something it is very uncomfortable for the provider because of the power dynamic to begin with. I just tried to have enjoyable sessions and if it was fun then I would repeat. I would leave my phone number on a repeat session and forget about it and if someone reached out then that would be nice. I would follow up by asking a favor for them to help book a popular time slot for me.  Sometimes they would ask me about smoking weed since it is taboo in Korea and if they could try it with me or their roommates so I would ask them to help me book their last appointment before works done and grab a bite and try it. Usually let them take the lead, sometimes they'll want to give you food or presents or cook for you. However OTC is kind of overrated to me and I liked not getting to know them too much because of the fantasy aspect of the hobby as well as downsides like jealousy, having to do favors, or feeling pressured to make appointments every now and then if you're not dating them. It is interesting to get a more honest point of view of how they feel about the job as well as hear about other clients/industry. You can see how fake and crafted a lot of messages with clients are on their fake KKT or if they pretend not to understand things they really do

Begging, bribing and wheedling are sure fire ways to crash and burn.

speculation on your part, which is in line with common sense, but not altogether accurate unless you want to be a "mark" for a Kgirl hustle like our OP here.

Well we live together and I would never do that. I'm not putting my name on anything and it is a dealbreaker if she wants to get back in the industry even as a pimp. Her previous pimp was also a former working girl whose current husband put his name down on like 3 or 4 rooms in the bay area. We laugh about him whenever he comes up and I feel bad about that situation but it's something I wouldn't put myself in.

as I said in my post below, the touring girls are often stuck in the incall location all by themselves or with only their roommate to keep them company and would love to be wined and dined a bit with a guy they like.  

Storefront Amp girls are really easy to go otc, at least from my experience. And if you're cool with MMS and they're not facing large volumes, it's like taking an extended test drive. The amp girls aren't as good of troopers as kgirls...especially those who room in the amps. I aways feel bad for those girls tho.

well over two hundred Kgirls, and LTR's with 11, I can tell you that you walked into a Kgirl hustle, albeit the "long-game" rather than the usual $15,000 quick con-job.  Most of my OTC dates are one-and-done because its fairly easy to determine in a single date outside the incall what their motivation is about.   If she's really interested in you from an attraction standpoint, then read GaG's post above as he echos most of my own thoughts on the matter, and I won't waste my time duplicating his post.

but she spent almost every weeknight at the spa. Like many AMP girls she worked very long hours, first appointment was almost always 7 AM and she worked until they closed at 10PM, Staying at the spa gained her an extra hour's worth of sleep each night. Saturday night she would try to get off a little bit early, around 9 PM and they didn't open until 10 AM on Sunday so we could enjoy the night together at her place.  

I think it's a pretty big "except".  

I know some AMP girls see close to ten different clients on a typical day, while others are lucky to see 3-4. I have heard many K-Girls complain when they are "only" seeing 5-6 clients a day.

Idk, I've never had to fuck and suck 12 strangers a day, most of them I would have no sexual attraction to, with little break, in a dark ass apartment. Trust me, most amp girls see less clients and especially do less FS than your average kgirl. At least in my area.

Not all AMPs and AAMPs are created equal. You have experience mainly in the Bay Area, not to toot my own horn, but I have decades of experience in several different states all over the country.  I also know/knew a LOT (hundreds) of both AMP and AAMP girls in a social setting who were NOT fucking me, (sometimes I became buddies with the other girls at a AMP or K agency who were co workers of a girl I was dating, so fucking them was verboten)  so they had no reason to lie to me unlike what a Girlfriend admits to her Boyfriend or what a hooker admits to a client.

Keep repeating.  If she likes you, she'll initiate outside time.  What you do with it is up to you.  That's my experience.

I used to have an arrangement with a hot little “Boss”. She was Chinese and hated being called mama-san. When she was in the “office”, I’d either take her out or see her there. If she was in town (she lived up in San Francisco, the office was in San Jose) we’d go out someplace discreet and have a little fun. She was a great dancer. Some good times.

Absdq2 - after she received her green card 1.5 years ago - did things change up for you the last 1.5 years after getting it?  Maybe you’re like a young Richard Gere and living a real ”Pretty Woman” life.  

add more details once they get called out.  I don't know why posters don't give us the full picture at the top, and the responses would be better.  We all want to give the best advice we can and that's pretty hard to do when we initially only get half the story.  

if the marriage is a sham in order to score a green card.  Its a felony.  The immigrant gets deported and American goes to prison.  

you're one of the young socially awkward guys in your 20"s???  I won't argue about you being socially awkward, but there is no way in hell you're still in your 20's.  LOL  

i had long talks with cdl about this type of situation, lol.

There was this chick (Cgirl) I used to fuck regularly; man, she had all the things I liked. We became friendly and around year one or two, and she "introduced" me to her fake husband (her words). She showed me her wedding photos. They were all decked out in Bridal gowns and Tux's. The stooge looked so happy. I felt sorry for him; but by then it was time for round two....

cause no way a horny 20year old wound be this calm and level headed like you seem to be!  

All REAL Asians know how to turn on and off their ability to speak and understand English as the situation demands. lol

You said, . . . . She . . . said, "Well I guess I lost a customer and you gained a boyfriend"  If YOU gained a boyfriend, was she a tranny?   ROFLMAO

I was a pretty regular customer of the agency, but that ended when I got into an LTR with this one girl. I actually got to be very good friends with the agency owner who was an ex provider herself, but she did lose me as a customer.

the girl said it to YOU.  My bad.  Lol

Such great advice! Please listen to him! I’ve had some off the clock relationships and it always reminds me—“the hour fantasy is so much better! Real life gets in the way..”