K-girls

Re: Tipping
useyrhead 4 Reviews 2214 reads
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1 / 41

I’m sure you are all aware of where I stand in regard to tipping. I’m a firm believer in using it to encourage people who provide a great experience. Others completely disagree.

 
But in this thread, let’s leave out the arguments of whether or not we should be tipping girls, the folks on the phone or whoever.

 
What I’d like to hear is whether the current cultural/economic climate - or anything else - has changed your attitude and/or behaviors around tipping in the past two years.

 
For me there has been almost no change. The slight change that has occurred for me is that I am more likely to tip these days. Why? Because things are tougher for everybody now. If a girl sets aside the added stresses she is having to deal with and still makes it easy to suspend disbelief then I want her to know I notice and appreciate it.  

 
But that’s just me. What do you all think?

allcomers 147 reads
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2 / 41
team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 150 reads
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3 / 41

If I did regularly, the recent price spike/surge in the bay without quality uptick, would make me not tip.

For some places that went from 220 all inclusive to 420 all inclusive for same girls, the tip is certainly feels well baked-in already.

-- Modified on 9/29/2021 7:01:43 PM

36363jensen 4 Reviews 158 reads
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4 / 41

earlier today the first response was: "Oh" and an attempt to hand it back as she though I had mistakenly included it. When I said "No, for you." She smiled and said "T.I.P., . . . tip" -- her English is not the best and I thought the spelling it out was really cute.

Quite a bit like Narumi is ;-)

 
So, for me nothing has changed really other than the girls like to show off their spelling prowess.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 143 reads
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5 / 41

I like that you pointed out it was a “small gratuity”. I follow approximately the same tipping guidelines that have been outlined several time by CDL Though if there is a “special service” that is different, I think.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 129 reads
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6 / 41

I was tipping during 2020.  I was hearing so many girls complain about not being able to make ends meet because customers were not coming to see them due to Covid, so I helped as many girls as I could, and tipped as much as I could justify.  Now I have settled back into my normal tipping range from pre-Covid days because the girls I see all tell me business is back to normal and for some, even better than before.  I also became close friends with a lot of new Kgirls that I hadn't seen before.  They always remember the good tippers.  You can stay away two or three years, during which they may see 2-4000 other guys, depending on their popularity, but they will still remember those who tipped a little more than most guys do, and you get just as good a session as if you were there last week in my experience.  

 
I always tip every Provider I see, Kgirl and indie.  If she didn't deserve what I tipped her, then I don't repeat.  

hobbyhunter69 89 Reviews 129 reads
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7 / 41

Look it up.  "Mr. Generosity" sees girls that charge $250, not much more.  All these years he's been tipping a big $10.  Its actually an insult.  Now he can brag that since Covid he has increased his tip by 50%.  Sure they remember him.  Oftentimes they throw the $10 back at him (and he stuffs it back in his pocket).  

AND would you want to see a provider that sees 2000-4000 other guys?  Sounds exclusive, huh?  Well I will share some inside information:  Since Covid Compulsive Dick Lover is only seeing the high volume providers and has found a few that have seen 6000+.  He wants to get really tight with them.

And sure he "became close friends with a lot of new Kgirls that I hadn't seen before.  They always remember the good tippers."  How fucking stupid is that comment LIAR?

Last not not least, you've never seen a true indi girl.  You don't even know how to communicate with them.  You go to a few houses where they let you in AFTER the busy time.  And for fun, the boss tells the K-Girls NOT to wash up from the last customer.  They give specific instructions to give "Mr. Generosity" the chance to be "Cuck-De-Luck" and clean up all of the mess--used condoms and lick the semen.  Admit it CDL-you love being "Mr/ Generosity" for all of the extra's.

badger48 125 Reviews 140 reads
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8 / 41

I feel the the girl deserves the extra cash! With a session price range from $270 to $300 and, if I understand correctly, $100 going to the booker/Org, that knocks her down to $170 or $200! Pretty low in my book to get for what they do in a session!

    It's pretty rare when I don't tip, but that's just how I see it!  I also see it as I will tip, just not return!

Floorhump422 25 Reviews 145 reads
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9 / 41

If you only saw them a few times before not seeing them for 3 years and the only thing that made you stand out was that you tipped well, I promise they won't remember you. It doesn't count if you have to ask them first if they remember you, and the only thing they say is, "Yes".

useyrhead 4 Reviews 99 reads
posted
10 / 41

Great link!

 
Thanks

hobbyhunter69 89 Reviews 135 reads
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11 / 41

Its a body slam for Mr. Big Tipper, CDL.  He brags that they will remember him for a few extra bucks...and they see hundreds of clients in a week!

Thanks for your real world insight Floor.  Its our job to counter the fake reviewers here so that especially newbies are not influenced by bad actors.

GaGambler 148 reads
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12 / 41

Ooops, I meant to say that to CDL. lol

 
He said that the girls are likely to remember a guy who tipped "a little bit" more and I have never found that to be the case. Now if you tip a girl a thousand bucks for a two hours session, yes I guaranfuckingtee you that she will remember you for quite a while to come, but if you have a session for lets say $500 and you leave $100-$200, yes she will appreciate it, but no, like you said, unless she has other reasons to remember you, you will be every bit the stranger to her after a few months as the guy who didn't leave a tip at all.

hobbyhunter69 89 Reviews 131 reads
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13 / 41

CDL is a total bullshit artist.  Its easy to expose him.  The best part is that he is so fucking stupid he will be back here posting and trying to lie his way out of his stupidty.  Pushing it back at him puts him one step closer to giving it up.  

sagacity 53 Reviews 125 reads
posted
14 / 41

I would fuck ALL y'all for $1,700/day plus a free apartment!

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 105 reads
posted
15 / 41

other reason they are remembering me after a long layoff.  I always thought it was the tipping, but now you have me thinking.  Remember me they do.  I had one Kgirl that I hadn't seen for 22 months and as soon as I walked in, she started jumping up and down and telling me she was so happy I came back.  Even with her, I thought she remembered how much I gave her for a two hour session the last time I saw her.  Son of a gun.  Maybe I need to rethink my strategy?  Maybe not if its still working.  The test would be to gradually lower my tips and then take note at what level they don't remember me.  

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 107 reads
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16 / 41

But if I saw her only a few times initially when she was younger, I probably wouldn't be going back again when she's three years older, would I?

useyrhead 4 Reviews 130 reads
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17 / 41

makes you significantly more memorable to a kgirl, I believe. But, since I’m generally not a one hour kind of guy, I don’t have much data for comparison.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 101 reads
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18 / 41

like that, it makes you look a little desperate, but its still a valid point.  LOL

hobbyhunter69 89 Reviews 116 reads
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19 / 41

You reviewed her when she was young.  You wouldn't go back because she never saw you.  You have been banished from this place.  There's nothing else to discuss.

Yons8 3 Reviews 118 reads
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20 / 41

Perhaps, but that defeats your argument, because that's recognition based on familiarity, not from tipping.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 117 reads
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21 / 41

that knew who I was when I walked through the door because they heard about my generous tipping from other Kgirls I had seen before them.  I am easy to identify based on a verbal description be one girl to another from some unique physical attributes that I have.  Sometimes the booker would give the girls a heads-up about who I was.  Never underestimate how informed the Kgirl network is.  

 
You have to remember that when I first started posting here tipping was not the norm.  The old guard back then were against tipping Kgirls, so FEWER tippers, especially good tippers, were easier for girls to remember.  I put up a few posts about tipping as recently as 2015-16 and was soundly mocked by the veterans or paying more than I needed to.  Look at some old discussions on this board about tipping and see how many of the veterans in those days did not believe in tipping. Fast forward to today, and I would venture to say there are more Kgirl mongers tipping than not.  The next generation of mongers seem to understand that you tip for personal services, and nothing is more personal than pussy.  Kudos to the younger guys for their tipping practices.  

kyungjean 6 Reviews 151 reads
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23 / 41

Yons8, are you associated with Yonsei?

I have a couple of friends who are alumnae.

One of them was going to show me around the campus but we got sidetracked by too much hanwoo and yakju in Hongdae!

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 123 reads
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24 / 41

I had actually written, "but its not a hunchback"  when I wrote that sentence, but then decided to take it out. so while not that original because we both thought of the same thing, and probably others, too, its still funny.  

 
Quasimodo was completely deaf so he could not hear the bells of the other churches signaling the time of day, and yet, he was always accurate in ringing the Notre Dame bells right on every hour.  How did he do it if he was deaf?  He just had a hunch.  

-- Modified on 10/1/2021 10:27:59 AM

useyrhead 4 Reviews 134 reads
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25 / 41

Few people know that he used to have a twin. Sadly, the twin fell out of the tower and died.

 
People knew so little about him that, when they found the body, many asked “who is this guy?”. They were told: “I don’t know. But he’s a dead ringer for the other guy.”

Robbieweirdick 29 Reviews 119 reads
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26 / 41

Im sure she has tipped to others, but curious is it to everyone or just certain people.  
Before I left she handed me a red envelope with small cash i was like wth? why, she said im a good luck customer.

Robbieweirdick 29 Reviews 108 reads
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27 / 41

I always think when you ask to see a girl, the PO informs the girl first if she knows you and if shes ok to see you again or ok for a new customer then maybe shes going thru her notes to remember and if your a yes your booked Then on the following time of your appt. shes gathering her notes about you, if any, to remember you . All this is while your walking to the door. If she remembers, then once you open the door its like omg its you, i miss you lol

badger48 125 Reviews 119 reads
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28 / 41

I've asked a few of the girls if the booker ever tells them about the client or shows a picture if they have one. Or, on a repeat if the booker says who the next appointment is.  

They always said no.  

I kind of don't believe it, I would think the girl would want to know who's behind the green door!

36363jensen 4 Reviews 104 reads
posted
29 / 41

Used to be that the girl would generally know my name even if I didn't tell her. Not so much anymore. Not sure why.

 
I always know if they remember me by their expression when I enter.

mufftime 270 Reviews 119 reads
posted
30 / 41

I've said it before and I'll say it  again.  Tipping  is  for low income workers i.e. waiters, busboys, taxi drivers, etc.  Anyone making 150 or more per hour doesn't work for  measly possibly $15 or $20 tips. If you want  to impress a sex worker, K-girls  in this case come up with some Benjamins or  stop deluding yourself as to how your tip will improve the service. I never tip and you can take this to the bank. I get as good service as possible. The best tip is to return and spend another 250 to 300 to see that girl again. That will help get better service.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 90 reads
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31 / 41

So, I’m guessing your answer is that you haven’t changed your tipping practices in any way, correct?

 
Not sure why some people are reading this thread and thinking that we’re re-hashing the topic of “should you tip?”.  

 
But I think we all get it by now. Some people don’t believe in tipping. And that’s cool.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 122 reads
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32 / 41

what the Kgirl scene was like 15 years ago.  Ask ANY Kgirl if she would rather have tips or repeats, and she will answer emphatically . . . .   BOTH!!   You must be caught in a time warp.  Nobody tips $15-20 anymore.  The girls I have talked to say that the average tip these days is $50-60.  Some girls say their regulars tip them $100.  I know one OC girl who has a regular that sees her once a week, and brings her a gift card on the first session of each month for $500.   No wonder you can't get an outside date.  LMAO.  

 
With that said, I get where you are coming from.  Its kind of confusing for the girl when you ask her for a discount n exchange for writing a good review and then turn around and tip her.  

 
You need to get out more.  I know some Maitre D's at fine dining restaurants that make more in a year then a Kgirl, and its MOSTLY off of tips, especially in Las Vegas.  When I get a 90-min legit CMT massage at a spa that costs $250-300, which is right in the Kgirl range, I tip $50-$100.  Your argument that tips are ONLY for low income workers is bullshit.  You're just a cheap ass. You always have been.  How about joining us in the 21st century?

Robbieweirdick 29 Reviews 113 reads
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33 / 41

Anyone who tips these Kgirls $20 should be ashamed lol.  Should be at least $50-100 to make these girls even consider you a good customer.  I dont tip normally, but I do tip if I request anything and she agreese, depends who I ask and what kind of requests I figure how much it was worth it. Normally $50-$100, I never gave more.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 94 reads
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34 / 41

Could you expand on the "request anything" bit?

 
It sounds a bit like a payment rather than a tip -- much like the "tip" given at an AMP for all the additional and non-advertised services one can get. I've always taken that to be a bit of a misnomer term as it is not really a gratuity as is often the case with tips.

 
But perhaps that might be a good question area. When people talk about tipping in this context just what do they think they are doing?  
1) Just a simple gratuity?
2) A gratuity for exemplary service?
3) Something along the lines of the To Insure Promptness (TIP) so that next time they get better treatment but within the general scope of the service offering?
4) A payment for something only offered for a fee beyond the "listed" price?
5) Something else?
6) All of the above but depends on the specific case?

badger48 125 Reviews 189 reads
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35 / 41

I consider my tips for either #1 or #2. Like I stated in my post, I feel it's just extra $ to show my appreciation! That's my reason, I'm not doing it to be considered a good customer or for any kind of recognition!

-- Modified on 10/9/2021 9:56:53 PM

useyrhead 4 Reviews 162 reads
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36 / 41

For me a tip is generally a tip. In other words, #1 above. But #2 can increase the amount.  And there are times when I don’t tip at all. Very rare. But it has happened a couple of times in the long distant past.

 
#4 is not what I consider to be a tip. These are what I would call a performance bonus. And they are strictly between the girl and her customer as I understand it. If and when they occur.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 115 reads
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37 / 41

confusing because he actually refers to it as a "fee" which means he recognizes it is not a tip, so it might be suggesting that if she agrees to an off-menu service for a fee, then he would ALSO tip because she agreed to do it in the first place.  

 
Generally, I will tip the guy who services my home AC units twice a year, but if he says I also need to new thermostat for an extra charge, it doesn't mean I would buy the thermostat in place of the tip.  He would still get the tip.  I would do the same with a Kgirl.  The tip should be on top of the agreed services, even if there was an upcharge for something special that either she offered, or I asked for.  

36363jensen 4 Reviews 113 reads
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38 / 41

Well that was included because I was trying to understand just what the other poster meant with:
"I dont tip normally, but I do tip if I request anything and she agreese, depends who I ask and what kind of requests I figure how much it was worth it. Normally $50-$100, I never gave more."

 
That sounded a lot more like what the guys going to the AMPs say (at least from what I've heard here) "$80 to the house and then I'll leave the customary tip of $40 for the happy ending." or the same. TIP being used instead of fee since nothing is really documented other than the time rate for the AMP.

 
But perhaps he was saying as you suggested, if he asked for something more and paid extra for that he also TIP -- just didn't really sound like that.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 123 reads
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39 / 41

We just had a discussion about tipping that was actually illuminating rather than it devolving into an argument with “one hour, no tip” guys.  

 
It looks like we can occasionally find a way to have a productive discussion on here, after all.

 
Thanks for putting out the effort to help make it happen.

-- Modified on 10/10/2021 2:46:38 PM

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 157 reads
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40 / 41

she said you were a "good luck" customer, its most likely the Asian custom connected to the Lunar New Year celebrations.  They believe that if they gift people who they consider to be good luck or a positive influence in their lives during the New Year celebrations, whatever they gift to you will come back to them many times over.  

 
Besides providers, I have a lot of other Asian service people I deal with and this is an annual thing for me to receive the little red envelopes with a little cash (or lotto tickets) in them leading up to the Lunar New Year celebrations.  If you're not Asian, its more rare to receive these envelopes, but if you do, its a sign of the high regard they have for you and the business you give them.  Of all of the Asian cultures, in my experience, its the Vietnamese who are the most diligent in gifting those during the new year who give them a lot of business.

useyrhead 4 Reviews 131 reads
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41 / 41

Agreed.

 
We see this every year around Lunar New Year.  

 
If you’re paying attention, you’ll see that more than a few girls will tend to work a bit harder and with a more positive attitude.  Because they believe how they start the year will impact the entire year. Some of them will even work more hours because of this.

 
During Lunar New Year is the only time I actually bother with an envelope. And I go to the bank and get brand new 100s and 20s. Then I use these bills, unfolded, in a fresh envelope, to pay the girl(s). Crisp, clean bills are considered good luck.

 
I remember one girl years ago was feeling like her luck was bad. Because there were some Bay Area Kgirl trolls (yes, they’ve been around that long) who were saying disparaging things about her. This was negatively impacting her attitude and her business. I had seen her a couple of times. But a girl I saw a lot was good friends with her. So, I heard a lot about how she was doing.

 
What this girl ended up doing for the Lunar New Year was telling her customers that she wouldn’t charge them. Her service that day would be her gift to them. But she had a little box near the door if they wanted to put any money in it. This, she believed, would rehabilitate her luck.  

 
And, yes, my Vietnamese friends are definitely the most diligent in their new year preparations and celebration of all the Asians I know. When I have a Viet pro in my rotation (haven’t had one for a number of ears now though), I make it a point to see them at least once during the new year celebrations to help her boost her luck for the year.

 
And I *always* tip something (with a crisp, new bil) during Lunar New Year. This contributes significantly to being considered a Lucky Customer. And it almost always positively impacts how that girl treats you for the rest of the year.  If you’re only going to tip Asian girls occasionally, I strongly suggest doing so during the Lunar New Year.  

 
Still, as always, everyone should make their own choices. There are no guarantees in life. Even fewer in this business.

-- Modified on 10/11/2021 6:49:41 AM

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