So, guys want GFE, GFE, GFE, GFE. If your not a GFE provider, your probably not getting the volume GFE providers are. Guys want the fantasy.
But, what do you do when a guy trys PSE stuff in a GFE call. I charge more for PSE type stuff, and when they try and I mention the additional donation, they get pissy.
The thing is, they knew beforehand that PSE is offered for an additional donation and didn't book a PSE. But they still try and still get pissy. Should I blacklist him? Not see him again? The entire call goes downhill because they put me in a bad mood, and they put themselves in a bad mood. Then I end up canceling my other appointments because I'm in a bad mood.
Should I not offer both and stick with one? I honestly believe PSE related services should not be mixed with GFE related services and I think guys should respect it. I know everyone wants the best exp. at the lowest cost, but I think some guys should keep in mind were not a steak at a super market.
Also, I visited DC this past weekend and easily got 400-600/hr without anyone blinking an eye. Why is Carolina's average rate so low?
Thanks,
Jessic
hMM, the time I ever get the priviledge to spend with you is both in my mind
You are simply soooo sexy. BY FAR the prettiest kitty as well ( IMO). Love a sneak peak ;
You should look around some more. Not everyone here has low rates.
You can charge whatever you want.
The market will determine if you're worth it or not.
As for PSE, If a guy tried PSE stuff with me, I'd kick his ass...well maybe not but
I wouldn't see him again. Not cool. I know ladies that stopped offering PSE for this reason.
Good luck 
Posted By: jessgfe
So, guys want GFE, GFE, GFE, GFE. If your not a GFE provider, your probably not getting the volume GFE providers are. Guys want the fantasy.
But, what do you do when a guy trys PSE stuff in a GFE call. I charge more for PSE type stuff, and when they try and I mention the additional donation, they get pissy.
The thing is, they knew beforehand that PSE is offered for an additional donation and didn't book a PSE. But they still try and still get pissy. Should I blacklist him? Not see him again? The entire call goes downhill because they put me in a bad mood, and they put themselves in a bad mood. Then I end up canceling my other appointments because I'm in a bad mood.
Should I not offer both and stick with one? I honestly believe PSE related services should not be mixed with GFE related services and I think guys should respect it. I know everyone wants the best exp. at the lowest cost, but I think some guys should keep in mind were not a steak at a super market.
Also, I visited DC this past weekend and easily got 400-600/hr without anyone blinking an eye. Why is Carolina's average rate so low?
Thanks,
Jessica
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if things are so good. I mean you could earn more money. It's called supply and demand. You can certainly charge the same in the Carolinas but like I say you may be better off in the DC area.
Posted By: jessgfe
So, guys want GFE, GFE, GFE, GFE. If your not a GFE provider, your probably not getting the volume GFE providers are. Guys want the fantasy.
But, what do you do when a guy trys PSE stuff in a GFE call. I charge more for PSE type stuff, and when they try and I mention the additional donation, they get pissy.
The thing is, they knew beforehand that PSE is offered for an additional donation and didn't book a PSE. But they still try and still get pissy. Should I blacklist him? Not see him again? The entire call goes downhill because they put me in a bad mood, and they put themselves in a bad mood. Then I end up canceling my other appointments because I'm in a bad mood.
Should I not offer both and stick with one? I honestly believe PSE related services should not be mixed with GFE related services and I think guys should respect it. I know everyone wants the best exp. at the lowest cost, but I think some guys should keep in mind were not a steak at a super market.
Also, I visited DC this past weekend and easily got 400-600/hr without anyone blinking an eye. Why is Carolina's average rate so low?
Thanks,
Jessica
Keep it simple. If you enjoy offering and providing both experiences keep doing so. If the guy as you say gets pissy then either end the meeting or finish it and do not see him again. Blacklisting him or not is your call. But if he is trying to get something he hasn't agreed to pay for, it is simple he either pays it or doesn't get it. I understand that it can ruin the mood but look at it this way, if he was so mad about it that it ruined the mood you don't want to see hime again anyway. Do things on your terms or don't do them at all. Not to sound silly but you have the goods he wants, I am sure you make it clear with him and everyone what your time will be like before you get intimate. Bag the guy and move on.
As to rates for PSE versus GFE I'm not a lady so I can't give you much insight there. It's like this if I tell a customer upfront it's 3500.00 for a new air conditioner or 5800.00 for an air conditioner and a new furnace and all you give me is the 3500.00 guess what you're getting? So I'm with you if you pay for the AC and expect a free furnace, well not happening so I can sympathize with you there and personally wouldn't get pissey with you if we ever met.
As for hourly rates its just simple economics actually not even supply and demand. It's the area of the country, everything is cheaper here versus DC area. Everything from housing to food is lower here and it is reflected here in pay scales even in this hobby. A experience AC repair guy can make 40 bucks an hour plus bennies working for a shop in that area. Here top techs are lucky to hit low 20's. that's just an example that I could actually back up. But pay scales in the south have historically been lower than other parts of the country. Nothing personal its just what the market will bear
You can compare housing costs between DC & where you are and decide that if you moved you either would make more $$$ at higher rates or not & then decide if you want to move. It does no good to complain about it, it's economic facts, cost of living in DC is substantially higher, yes you can make more $$$ for appts. but it'll cost you (a lot) more to live there. Next tier is NYC, ladies in NYC can charge a lot more but they pay a whole lot more in rent, etc. The skill sets involved in being a provider are quite transportable to anywhere, but the cost of living has a lot to do with prevailing rates you can charge & still attract enough business. If you want to work in NYC, LA, San Fran, Chicago, DC etc. yes you can charge more but it will also cost you more to live there, and those are the same costs your clients are living with every day. I see a lot of ladies coming to DC from NYC & their rates are nearly always high, ladies come from the Carolinas & their rates are lower. The NYC ladies may be charging less than they would in NYC, and the Carolina ladies may be charging more than they can get at home, it's all simple economics. That's why big companies have large market research staffs so they can figure out what they can charge in NYC vs. Dubuque Iowa. It's just the way economics works!
Case,
I honestly think it's depends on the lady too. Take a market like dallas for example where the market is saturated and many are struggling to make even $200 an hour. In that same market, there are ladies that charge well over $400 an hour and do very well. Call me crazy but I'm going to go out on a whim here and say that I have a feeling if the OP charged $500 an hour , someone would come along and pay it right here in the Carolinas. She may not work as much as the lady that charges $200 an hour but ... the low volume may be just what she wants .
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Market saturation can have as much an impact as the local economy, cost of living etc. The reputation of the lady could also play into effect, especially if a lot of choice in a similar price range. Also with the higher price ranges you mentioned it can create a sense of exclusivity among guys who enjoy thinking they have reached a status in life. Some guy telling his buddies yeah I spend 500 an hour on my ladies thinking he's a high roller. Simple marketing put a higher price on something and it has to be better LOL!! Not always true as price versus value but it sure does work in America. Certain areas of the state would be more open to higher rates, Charlotte probally more so than the Triad but then again more competition there so goes back to what you said about market saturation. Since I've been so serious here I just gotta say, dang you're smart and well spoken I have got to get out of the backwoods here and come see you one day!!
The last thing I want to do is to encourage the ladies here to raise their rates and piss the guys off lol. I'll respond via pm. Thanks for the kind words love.
so generally speaking, the cost for everything is higher ------ including "service" related business models. The average income is also higher. Factor it all together and BAM ..... that's why you got 400 to 600. Basic economics. The same can be said for NYC, Chicago, etc.
On the flip side, the Carolinas as a whole have a lower cost of living, lower cost of doing business & lower median income. So, I don't think the average rate is neccesarily low --- I just think some of the ladies understand the Carolina economy and their business model.
BUT ..... throw all that crap out the window. You should charge whatever you want.
Now ......... I need some education here !!! Lol
Someone please explain what the difference in 'PSE' & 'GFE' is !! I would never want to end up with a 'WTF' !! ;
Greek, hardcore fucking, snowballing, DATO, hair pulling (please ask the lady first)..etc
I'm 99% sure about the greek and the hardcore fucking but not too sure of the others LOL.
They better fuckin' pay more.
Posted By: jessgfe
So, guys want GFE, GFE, GFE, GFE. If your not a GFE provider, your probably not getting the volume GFE providers are. Guys want the fantasy.
But, what do you do when a guy trys PSE stuff in a GFE call. I charge more for PSE type stuff, and when they try and I mention the additional donation, they get pissy.
The thing is, they knew beforehand that PSE is offered for an additional donation and didn't book a PSE. But they still try and still get pissy. Should I blacklist him? Not see him again? The entire call goes downhill because they put me in a bad mood, and they put themselves in a bad mood. Then I end up canceling my other appointments because I'm in a bad mood.
Should I not offer both and stick with one? I honestly believe PSE related services should not be mixed with GFE related services and I think guys should respect it. I know everyone wants the best exp. at the lowest cost, but I think some guys should keep in mind were not a steak at a super market.
Also, I visited DC this past weekend and easily got 400-600/hr without anyone blinking an eye. Why is Carolina's average rate so low?
Thanks,
Jessica
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to DC you wouldn't be in the hobby, now would you? So no matter how much you hate taxes etc., you apparently have enough left over to play now & then. Count your blessings!
It was a joke. Though I annually give 6 figures to the IRS annually, you are right, I still have enough left over to pay money in the hobby, pay for two households, college and private school tuition, etc. I gues I should be thankful they only take 40%, shut my mouth, and bow to the bureaucrats.
My initial answer was not political, only in jest. You made it political, and now, because of you, the jabronis in charge of this Popsicle stand will surely piss their pants and have it removed. So be it
the fallacy of your original post, clearly ALL your money isn't being sent to DC if you can afford to hobby! YOU brought up taxes, not me!
Really. There is no way you did not know why there is a difference between NC and DC rates. lol. Are you living in a bubble!! Someone in high school should be able to figure that out. The funny thing is that you didn't compare NC to just anywhere.....you asked that question about f****** D.C. Do you know whats in D.C. or do you just like to write stuff for the sake of it. Unreal!
All the other stuff you brought up is right on though. You should have been upset and guys should know better.
But come on with that rate comparison. New York, D.C. L.A. Miami Las Vegas are in a world of there own and it makes sense. If you see that you get a higher rate from any other city than those, then come ask that question.
400 to 600 hr and you do not have an Eros ad or a website? I know you have a website but lets get real....its not really anywhere close to a good one. Just being honest.
So how many appointments did you get in that range one might ponder to ask, even in DC. In DC, the gents able, willing and expecting to incur that much for an appointment, wouldn't be seeing just anyone. Especially someone with basically a lack of proper advertising such as yourself. Not that many of them, if any.
So basically, yeah, I am calling donkey doo doo on that. What the hell.
If you want that range travel to the cities I mentioned before more often but the competition is steep and you are never going to make it with the quality of advertisements that you currently have online. Your advertisements SCREAM under 300/hr. They actually scream 200/hr with half hour rates offered .
WO
About 10. I believe I have a website and p411 brought biz...
Posted By: GargamelsDrawers
400 to 600 hr and you do not have an Eros ad or a website? I know you have a website but lets get real....its not really anywhere close to a good one. Just being honest.
So how many appointments did you get in that range one might ponder to ask, even in DC. In DC, the gents able, willing and expecting to incur that much for an appointment, wouldn't be seeing just anyone. Especially someone with basically a lack of proper advertising such as yourself. Not that many of them, if any.
So basically, yeah, I am calling donkey doo doo on that. What the hell.
If you want that range travel to the cities I mentioned before more often but the competition is steep and you are never going to make it with the quality of advertisements that you currently have online. Your advertisements SCREAM under 300/hr. They actually scream 200/hr with half hour rates offered
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WOW
I hear there is a lot of NCNS and other nonsense there, and I'm guessing you can charge extra because everything is so ridiculously expensive there. I've tried to tour here and there but I like my sexy RTP geeks if you check out the other boards you can see that the Carolina men/women are more polite and don't cause a bunch of drama. As for GFE/PSE I suppose you just have to establish your limits. I'm more of an all inclusive girl but I do what I'm comfortable with according to how I'm feeling and how comfortable I am with the client.
Jess,
Something that I have encountered here in Columbia is that there are these few other BP providers who seek out TER reviews on local, more upscale, Providers and contact the person who wrote the review to offer their services at super low rates and will even pretend to be one of "your girlfriends".
These girls change their names constantly on their bp ads and have numerous google voice phone #s and their rates are usually 75 hlf hr to 175 hr.
ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!! ...and im glad i don't (knowingly) see men who "date" women this cheap!
I will not EVER discount myself or my worth. The Gentlemen whom I prefer to "date" will be more than willing to meet my standards.
I have this on my website and I stand behind it:
Gentlemen,
Always keep in mind QUALITY over quantity. If you buy a Rolex for $40, you KNOW
something is NOT RIGHT about it. A Woman also has a WORTH and if she is discounted then there is probably something broken about her;... (read more on my website)
As for DC Rates, We can get that here as long as we hold our standards. Maybe not as many but it often weighs out in the end.
Best Wishes & Happy Hobbying!
Sloa
