It's perfectly understandable why any provider would elect not to do outcalls. Th reasons are much the same as why I prefer to avoid incalls. As many times as I've done incalls in the past, I still get a little nervous as I walk in. I never truly know what's waiting behind that door, even if I've seen that girl multiple times.

Maybe the conclusion to be drawn is that a woman who charges $100 more to come see you isn't really all that comfortable with outcalls in the first place. And personally, if she's not comfortable, I'm probably not going to be comfortable.

The varying asking prices of providers has been debated a few times on this board over the past couple of weeks and we've come to the simple conclusion: an indy or agency has the right to charge whatever they please for their services. This is understood.

However, I came across a lovely lady on Eros tonight who charges $350 for an incall but $450 for an outcall. Personally, I'm a man who prefers the outcall. It's more convenient for me, there's no risk of walking into an LE trap and there's just something erotic about having a beautiful show up at your door.

I get that there is often an added cost to the outcall. Paying for gas and/or the driver is generally necessary. But from what I've seen, the average price difference is somewhere between $25-50. But I can't figure out what justifies a $100 fee. Now, I'm not the type to really fret over an extra 50 bucks. If I want her, I'll pay it without thinking twice. But I'm just curious what goes into this decision. Is there an extra expense that I'm not considering?

I had similar, perhaps more dramatic swing.  I tried agency for first time, their rates for in 300 for one and 500 for two and 900 for four.  Yet outcall is straight linear 400 per hour.  Plus the screener is difficult to contact and rather rude if questioned.  So many people had referred me to this agency and I had met this particular lady in advance and found her intriguing so I scheduled.

I probably will never use this agency in future, there are so many other options, you do not need to tie into any single group.  You will never find the logic, just move on to either another agency or try the indies.  It is not worth the cycles to ask the question.

In my instance, they do not value my patronage, others will.  Just move on.

Time, my dear, time! Time is the most precious and valuable asset that is completely irreplaceable! The extra is for the time waste that you are spending (i.e:wasting) on the road. Time is money

I understand that time is valuable. I respectfully disagree, however, that time spent traveling to a place where money will be made is "wasted". I'm a frequent business traveler (that's how I got started in this hobby) and I can assure you that I never feel like the trip is wasted. If it's helping put money in my pockets, it's anything but a waste.

But let's go with the time aspect for conversation sake. If you're going to factor in the time spent into your outcall price, shouldn't you figure out how far you're going to travel first instead of posting a flat rate? If a provider is located in, say, Dunwoody and I'm staying in Dunwoody, shouldn't her relatively short distance to travel be a factor? Obviously, if you're based out of Covington and I request an outcall to Kennesaw, that should cost more. And to tie in my original question, why charge a flat $100 fee to travel to see a guy when, in theory, he could be staying two blocks from you? I'm not implying that ladies should have meters like taxi cabs to give a price, but it's just interesting to me how the prices are set. Anywho ...

I stopped doing outcalls for the most part. On my website, I blatantly say, 'No outcalls'.

When I do outcalls, I inevitably get lost. (I call my Tom-Tom a "John-John"). In big metro areas like Boston and Atlanta, one must factor in costs there and back, extra risk to the Provider, and now a new setup fee!

When I prep my incall hotel, I lay towels, electric candles, music players, condoms, lube, etc out...  I know where everything is. When I go on outcalls, I have to pack ALL OF THAT up and start again!

I'm so anxious on most outcalls that I can't cum. I always fear I'm being photographed or videotaped... Thus I am less adventurous.

I think $100/outcall isn't enough!

Whether I pay rent on an incall, use hotel rooms, or drive to my client, the overhead is all pretty much the same. As long as I can get there in about 45 minutes or less, the time/distance isn't an issue.

xoxo
Caylee

I'm in Southern Cali right now and i'm finding the Cali girls charge 100. more for incall to cover the cost of hotel.

I agree...  I rarely do outcalls, in fact I think I can count on one hand the times I have...in 10 years in this profession. I doesnt feel as safe as my home turf.

somebody is in it just for the money, doesn't  it ?

You can read the post about priotities above and figure it out as well.....a multi-hour gets top priority over a regular that just wants an hour is the way I read it.

At least she admits it, I wonder how many ladies do this  just because they love sex and how many do it just because they love money and there is nothing else they could do to make this kind of a living.

Just wondering.

Good luck with disclosure on that one lol.  At the end of the day many view it as a job.  As such I would suspect that they are no different than the average population of workers.  Some really enjoy there jobs but I suspect the majority view it as a way to earn a living.  Doesn't mean they aren't pleasant individuals and don't provide good service, as one can be good at what they do but not necessarily love what they do.

"Admitting" it is a business?? Ay! )

and I thought I was convincing my audience that I was doing this because I was in love with you, who, he, or, me, or no the other, ah oh, you mean jack, joe, david, paul no wait michael..he, she, me, who?? ) Pleeeaase guys!!! )  Let's just be honest.

Yes, of course each and every one of successful providers are the ones that are able to give you the illusion that you are special. That they are REALLY REALLY into you. But don't forget this illusion will survive only as long as you pay. Try those you think are into this for the love of f'ing not paying one time. See what happens. Well because YES, THIS IS A BUSINESS! HELLO!

Of course I have my favorites, some I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE to see, (some not so much), that is beside the point but I have a life and I have a business and they both need to be taken care of.
I am not a 20 year old who lives in lalaland, I know what happens to those who don't treat this as a business. Age 50, no more clients to see, no more income from anywhere. Will you be there for me then? I don't think so

I liked the way you summed all that up! I agree!

joejiggy, I am guessing you are not sincere as this sounds like all word play to a 2 year old to me. Look, if you are getting tens of thousands of dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars (or some more) from a business deal, of course you will not mind spending days even weeks to make that deal happen. And of course thatr is definitely NOT a waste. We are talking about something different here. Say you are an adult entertainer, you are visiting a city and already paid for your airfare, back and fourth, your hotel and taxis, etc..You need to make at least as much as your initial cost plus the extra for your rent, mortgage, utilities, food, healthcare, clothes, perfumes, make-up, etc etc etc..You can't possibly be all over a strange city in the traffic for one hour bookings here and there, you don't even know the roads, plus you are going to strange men's houses or hotels where you don't even know what is waiting you or even if they will be there. Hence the extra charge for the outcall.

If you are in your home town your policy might be the opposite. You charge extra for the incall. As outcall doesn't cost you much but for incall you are getting a room form a hotel etc..

It all depends on one's circumstances. Preferences.
It is a free market. If you don't like it, there is plenty of other ladies in town. Isn't there?

I can understand $25 to cover cost of gas, but if it is $100, I see it as an intentional disincentive.  

There may be ladies like the one above who simply are trying to discourage it because they don't like outcalls.  The math of it is, if a lady is popping for her own incall apt, call it $1,500/month overhead, she's going to need to recoup her investment of capital by using the place.  If she's driving all over town, it cuts into time she could be having appts at the incall she's paying for.  Now, if a lady has already bought a hotel room for $500 for 2 or 3 days, same deal.  But, if a lady has no incall, no hotel room pre-paid, an outcall might make sense.  Rather than buying a room for that one visit that will cut into her margin, $20 worth of gas might be a better investment.

I've said before that it's a fantasy for the men and a business for the ladies.....I just don't think you have to be so blatantly honest about it. I would hope you'd be a little better business person than that.
Just my opinion.
I"m under no illusion that some 20 something hard body is going to bang me, if I wasn't paying for her.

No woman who charges 500/hr can be high volume, my darling. Especially I. I keep it super low volume first because I can't just see people to get to a certain quota, I am building my circle and they will be a part of it only if I provide an exceptional service. Consistently. And I know that. I can't give that kind of intimate, caring service if I see a bunch of guys every single day. I would be drained. Second, I demand a certain level of respect, if I feel they won't show me that I refuse to see them. Third I ask their screening info, and that proved to be a major hindrance for guys out there, nobody seems to  understand that I can't compromise my safety for a few bucks. It is life and death here.  Fourth, I stop every time I feel like I am starting enjoying the whole thing less than usual. Then come back when I am feeling up to it. So this makes you naturally and exceptionally low volume. And I have a life and other things that I enjoy to do, other things that are worth my time than wandering my way around a strange city not knowing who I am about to meet or will ever even meet/if he will show up or stand me up or if he will be a decent experience or a terrible one, etc etc...So, yeah, I value my time and I will charge for it if they want me to spend it for them. Otherwise they should get off their assets and see me at my hotel. I always stay in at least 4 stars. I offer drinks, fruits, snacks, I am a wonderful hostess. What else for the God's sake?

Tenn. being one example.

I think there are two likely reasons when the difference is substantial: they want to discourage outcalls, and/or they are higher-volume providers. With an incall, you can crank 'em in and out pretty fast, LOL.

I am low volume and I charge 300H for incall AND outcall. I do prefer incall though. I do a lot of multiple hour appts. I DO offer a wide variety of refreshments too including beer, wine, sparkling water etc. AND I am not in a 4 star hotel but a very upscale private incall. Now if someone wants a little extra(Greek) Then I will charge an extra 100. I am comfortable with my rates and I am an excellent hostess as well.  I also know of some ladies that charge 500H that are high volume so dont speak for all the ladies here please. A woman that charges 500h CAN be high volume and not saying you are but again you can not speak for all the ladies here.
Hugs and kisses
TL

Shall we?

HV and LV? It is different for every provider. I cant answer for all of them. I can only answer for myself.  Why dont you try to define it for ALL of us?
Hugs and kisses
TL

Well, you were the one who started with how "even if a woman charges 500 Dollar an hour she could still be high volume" argument. And you were adamant and un-understandably emotional about it. I don't know what you mean by HV  in that case. She can't possibly be HV as in many clients each and every single day. I don't know even one woman who sees multiple clients a day at that price point. If she has no standards, does not screen well, maybe..but still that market is not as large as 300 Dollar market, not even close. Especially if she doesn't "tour".

I am different. My peace of mind is above anything else for me, under the sun. So I will never see a man who will in any way threaten that. It is not worth it for me. But as I previously mentioned those things depend on one's preferences, life perspective, what she can/willing to offer, etc etc.

I can only speak for myself. HIGH VOLUME to me would be 10 or more per 7day week.  I usually dont like to answer for ALL the ladies.  I will say this, you should do well here LOL!
Best to you!
Hugs and kisses
TL

Made on this board smacks of a larger-than-life superiority complex.  I highly doubt you've engendered much goodwill with the gents here, but then again, you only needed three men to book you full, per your rambling.

I wonder why anyone would feel compelled to visit a city, then challenge various OPINIONS on the local board in such a pretentious way.  I certainly hope the guys visiting you are afforded a personality that is the third cousin of the one you've shown here.

By the way, paragraph breaks come in handy....you should check them out, they're all the rage these days...

Yes, I agree: 10 or more per week is way too high and definitely high volume..but again..everybody's circumstances are different.
For example I used to see only 2 to 3 gentlemen (same ones) a month, never "toured" anywhere, did not advertise, did not interact with anyone in the "business" yet I lived a super comfortable life (financially and otherwise) while rarely "working" but focusing on whatever I wanted to do, including some serious charity work, etc. Best restaurants all over the world, best hotels, fist class vacations, expensive gifts, etc etc..THAT was my definition of low volume.
That was before the financial crisis.
Now like everything else, my definition of low volume also changed.
To me (now)  if I am not traveling/touring then 3 a week is plenty enough. More than that is (again to me) high volume.

I like Atlanta. Especially Buckhead.

It is quite normal that you never heard of me because I was UTR for several years. Never even interacted with anyone in the business, never posted anywhere anything, never advertised. Very recently started to travel/tour but keeping a very very low volume, being super selective. This trip is my second to the area and I must tell you: I am developing quite some liking here. You are very sweet for taking the time to write such a thoughtful response. I truly appreciate it!! My bests to you as well, always

WOW! That is some really great endorsement for Atlanta, Ginger?/GingerTaylor1234! I will take it into consideration (BIG time!) and I will have to extend my stay for a few more days until Tuesday, it seems. Thank you again! You are adorable!

Big hugs and lots of kisses SERIOUSLY!! you ARE HOT HOT HOT!!
TL