i read a new revie on vanessa below.couldnt believe she provided bareback full service!

how oftendo laides do this?does thsi turn the guys off or what?

Turn off? Man, I don't play Russian Roulette!!!

In my previous incarnation, I was offered bareback twice, refused both and I never contacted either lady again. If offered to one, don't fool yourself into thinking you are the only one. Know that if you have a family you are risking alot, if not it could be just an embarrassment or it could cost you your life.

additionaly the reviewstates that reviewr was alowed to load one in her.very dangerous. i think.

Are you serious???? I can't believe it. That it happened and that a guy would put in his review.

There are several girls around the country who really preffer the fc.  I wonder if she uses that?

I got an e-mail from a worried guy in Boston this week asking me if Vanessa had "allowed" me to go fs bareback.  I told him it never came up because I hadn't gotten anywhere near her "snatch" (as I mentioned in a review I wrote) because of hygiene questions.  I told him he was crazy to do that himself -- to which he replied that it was the only time ever and he regretted it instantly.  Sounds like this is something that's "normal" for Vanessa --  and everyone should just stay away.  We don't need that kind of crap going on -- and anyone who's involved should be boycotted.  Providers AND hobbyists.   People who engage in that sort of idiocy endanger everyone.

...it was more amazing that he told about than that she offered it.

BBFS reviews actually violate TER review policy.

Also, if you read at least one other of her reviews, you can
guess the same thing happened but the review does not explicitly mention BB.  He just fails to mention (I think intentionally) that a condom was put on.


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If you read the reviews for all the "ultragfe" ladies, it seems that they all provide bareback  FS, including greek. Each to his own, but why are you surprised that the guy is writing about it. Aren't we looking for truth?

I read the review before it was pulled and I suppose anything can happen.  I'm sure this thing happens more often than we think.  From her photos, that girl struck me as being quite a pro, and while it's possible it could have happened, the only people who will know for certain are the girl and the gentleman who wrote the review.  A lot of guys also say they will not see a girl who does that sort of thing, but remember, we are only a small percentage.  I can assure you all, that agency's phone is ringing off the hook as we speak.  That girl will be booked solid for a while to come.  Personally, I stay away from girls who have that reputation.  While I'm sure it's all good when it's happening, the experience may get you much more than you bargained for.

I don't think it's a coincidence that they're website is UltraGFE.com.  I have to admit, I did BBFS with a former BBFS girl about 4 months ago, and although I was tested recently, I still worry about it since that stuff can show up over time...

I've been with two providers recently who used female condoms. The first was so adept at its insertion that I didn't even see her do it. When she started to get on for CG without taking out a condom for me, I nearly had a coronary. She explained and I sheepishly returned to the action (I felt like an idiot). The second provider asked me if I minded; she preferred them over the male condoms. If the provider doesn't say anything you may be fooled into thinking it's bareback.

She is not on my short list anymore. That scares the f*** out of me not to mention the obvious reason, but what if she became pregnant. No thanks

It happens more often than you think. I've had BBFS from a provider for over 2 years.

I was with a provider in Tysons finishing up with some doggie, and as I was pulling out the condom slipped off and was half hanging out of her snatch with my load dripping all over the place. She told me not to worry, that it happens all the time. Well that made it worse when she said it happens all the time. So please be careful.

Read the head line thats on drudge report.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=71000001&refer=&sid=aDEfEZh52ykY

I hope for the sake of everyone who has used her that, This is the case.

Why? Isn't that inportant information?

I think everybody know who you are talking about now!Little more information I needed to know.

Here are a couple things to think about, for all of you paranoids out there: All of us came into this world as a result of an act of, as we call it, "BBFSTC". (1) What fraction of these acts were actually life threatenining? (2) Do you really think there the times we live in today are really any different from the rest of history? D'ont respond. Just comtemplate....

Yea Jeap... I had a provider ask me if I was "ULTRAGFE" and I was confused at first then it was explained that it was BBFS... I said no thank you and actually didn't DATY because of that reason... She explained to me who was referring BBFS to her and I think it is the same one you are referring to... she used to be with that outfit but has since moved on... I just think the whole BBFS is creepy... oh well to each his own...

For those of us that are married and over 25, there is a new thing out there called HIV, that can be a bit of a bummer to talk about with your SO.

"Hey, um honey, uh you know those nice retirement plans we had, well um, uh....?"

Wow what a converstaion!.

While many of the STDs are easily cureable with p-pills, some are not, and while not life threatening, they may "cause Ricky to do some splaining!"

I must respond:

1.  Situations change.  Yes, uncovered sex has existed throughout history, but over time diseases have evolved.  Now we have antibiotic resistant strains of STDs that you can't just "get a shot" and get rid of, along with AIDS.

2.  Have times changed?  YES.

By participating in this activity you not only put YOUR life at risk, but also everybody else who sees the same women you are.  It is not a responsible action.

You must live in a cave somewhere. You're damn straight they're different. STD's and HIV are much more prevelent. There are treatments for some STD's but not all. HIV, I think you get the picture, but maybe NOT.

You know I don't mind sharing, but sharing with someone who has unprotected sex three or four times a day with three or four different people is like playing with gasoline in a forest fire.... both real dumb, and you're going to get burned.

Do what you will, but a BBBJTC is dangerous enough and about as far as I will go. If I hear of a lady that practices this form of Russian Roulette, I won't be in her vicinity when the gun goes off.

Contemplate that!

this is of national concern. I saw an out of towner a few weeks ago for the first time. I am well reviewed and never had an instance where anyone expressed fear of me, but when I offered him a shower he turned it down. I told this guy he could take his clothes in with him if he had a security issue, I wasn't offended (sh*t does happen). Here it is 4p.m. and he is telling me that's okay, I showered this morning (like his d*ck and ba**s aren't swetty and in need of clensing). Nothing was going to take place if water didn't hit his ass, so I told him, lets both get in and you can bring your pants, wallet whatever. He agreed which was good because I really wanted him to be at ease.

Now the point that brings me to this post. BBBJ is a normal part of a session with me as is DFK, no biggie. When it's time to actually  engage in intercourse, he complains of how condoms turn him off and how he really wants to go BB.Of course I didn't fulfill his wish and we continued. He tried it again on round 2. Not 20 minutes ago, he thought I was capable of robbing him. Now he wants to stick his raw c*ck in my wet p*ssy that maybe soaed of God knows what. Do I look disease free? I hope I do, but we all know that doesn't mean jack! In class I learned to treat everyone as if they have a disease. Does this mean that I wear a mask and gloves everywhere I go? No, but I am careful with the fluids I allow into my body and the sources they come from.

Like I said this guy was from out of town and he probably tries this with everyone he sees. Some may even do it. He is putting his family at risk as well as others. Let's all hope that these ladies are using female condoms and just giving their clients an illusion. They should probably let them know because it isn't working in their favor on this board.

...but didn't get a chance to see her.

Now, thanks to this thread, like as not I'll never get a chance -- there will be a 2-year waiting list.

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BBFS happens all the time.  Even though it may not happen during a regular session, I'm sure providers have BBFS with their personal encounters just like most of us have BBFS with our personal encounters.

If you participate in this hobby, just make sure that you are safe yourself and don't DATY.

how about someone just ask them what the deal is at ultragfe. maybe all the girls use female condoms or maybe they all get tested. someone should just flat out ask them so people can stop all the assumptions.

I'd have to see her put the condom in to know I'm safe before I do anything. Her telling me isn't good enough.  Might sound harsh but, This my life we're talking about here.

what i want to know is, I assume bbbj is safer than bb fs, since the former is offered a lot. If bbbj is safer, why? is oral fluid somehow less dangerous?

That should tell us something ha.

i could only imagine how many actually tried to call this provider

What do you think 100 200 300

Scary