I have a general question about a review I just read of a local independent provider here in DC. The reviewer seems legit with many reviews.

It is a 10/10, but according to the Guidelines for submitting a review

quote:

7.  In order to keep our performance ratings consistent, we set up the following system: An escort provider may only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she also performs the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, Anal Sex, or More than One Guy. The addition of each offering will raise the score she is eligible for by one point.

This does not mean she earns extra points for performing the service; just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is taken. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she has, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score.

end quote

So if someone kisses with tongue, but gives a CBJ, she can still get a rating higher than a 7?  So this person should have gotten an 8 or 9(geek was available but not taken, IIRC) but not a 10, right??

I'd personally rather get the BBBJ, than the DFK! If given a choice!  Seems to me they're not on the same level.  I'm not down-playing DFK by any means.  Maybe it should be DFK AND BBBJ?

So back to the local provider.  I probably won't see her because of the CBJ.

Any opinions?



-- Modified on 1/12/2005 7:57:09 AM

A 10 should NOT be awarded unless 3 of the following conditions are met or available/offered:

Kisses With Tongue

Bare-Back Blow Job

Really Bi-not sure about this one!

Anal Sex

or More than One Guy. - Yuk!

Am I reading this correctly??

Your point is well-taken!  I saw the review and thought the same.

Unless I read a different 10/10 review, it says greek was offered and ENJOYED.  The real question about the 10 is whether during a 1 on 1 session it can be determined that
1.)the provider is really bi, and
2.)the provider allows multiple guys (and I repeat your yuck)

Wow. I was going by what the text said...and how I felt about the girl/session at the time I wrote the review. Some, in hindsight, I probably should not have rated the way that I did.

I dfk, bbbj, and am really bi.

-- Modified on 1/12/2005 4:58:22 PM

That gives you a 10 (eligible) for performance!

... www.hotangelina.net, right?

http://theeroticreview.com/info/policybody.html#reviews

Who is she? The recent 10/10 is only TER review, and I can't seem to find her on other board.

I have found that the ratings are frequently more a reflection of how the session went not necessarily on what was done during the session. I don't pay as much attention to the ratings as I do the review itself to find out what services are available from a given provider and how well the reviewer felt those services were provided. I have read too many reviews where the numbers don't match the review to put much stock in them. Just one man's opinion though......

hhhhhmmmmmmm.......
I look at myself as a well reviewed provider on TER!!! But I'm not sure what to think of this "Rating System"!!
Has it always been this way???
So basically because I am a sensual provider, I can only be given a 7???
Is this fair???
I don't really feel anyway about the whole BBBJ thing with other girls doing it?? But really, any providers in persoanl relationships- Doesn't your boyfriend or male companion have issues with kissing you after some other guys Mr.Winky has been  in your mouth???? I don't know????? I don't mean this in a offensive way, I just wonder???
To each there own!!!
I myself feel comfortable only giving CBJ'S, thats just me!!! But because I do not offer Greek, or Kissing - Which I think is intimate, I am being punished for not offering clients these other services!! Even though I am a good provider???
I enjoy gentlemen for conversation, and fun playtimes!!!! Not that I don't enjoy the SEX!!! But it goes further than that!!! What I offer to one client, I may not offer to another!!! Its a comfortability factor!!!

How did this system come about???
I don't know, I just don't think that "Provider A" should be allowed to be given a 10 for doing Greek, or BBBJ.
When sensual "Provider B" treats her clients just as well and attracts a differant type of client, and can only recieve a 7!!!

How is this Fair!!
It seems like providers are in a way being forced to offer things that there not comfortable with, just to keep up with the ones -that do!!!!
Because we all know that alot of gentlemen that aren't aware of these factors, would look at reviews and see a 10 or a 7!! And would assume that the 10 must be better!!! Even though he's not looking for Greek or BBBJ!!!

I don't know, Am I the only Provider that doesn't find this fair???

Well gentlemen a "10" or not, I look forward to providing you with my sensual services!! XOXO, Lacey Diamond

There seem to be a lot of review's that don't neccessarily follow the TER guideline's. You try giving a provider that you liked and want to see again a seven on look's and performance, see how she treat's you the next time, if there is a next time. A lot of these women take their review's very seriously, whether they should or not. Who decided the point system should be based on certain  action's instead of how the provider made you feel? I'm not into anal and one woman at a time is good enough for me, multitasking is bullshit, 100% can't be given two or more place's at the same time. According to the guideline's that are stated I'd never be able to give a woman who knocked my sock's off a 8, 9, or 10? If a 10 is top of the scale and a provider give's me a session that's out of this world I'm not giving her a 7 because I didn't do anal or participate in an orgy. All in all, regardless of the numerical score most review's give a decent idea of what to expect. A 10 to me might be a 4 to you or vice versa, the score is bogus. The TER review board and the various discussion group's are a life saver in my book. They've stopped me from making quite a few mistake's so far, actually one just yesterday. I'm more concerned with which provider is legitimate or a scam than I am with what Tom, Dick, or Harry did with her. YMMV

-- Modified on 1/12/2005 4:17:24 PM

If I am looking at the same review as the rest here - what I see is - Sex = NO... How is that possible? Interesting.

I've seen some questionable as well.
I've seen some rated as high as 7 in which
CBJ was the only menu choice.

I'm sorry.
Massage category ok.
ESCORT?  No way?
No Sex a 10?

LOL.

I just don't get the reviews here in the least.

I've posted 4-5 reviews over the past year.
0 have been approved - All "Inconsistent" yet
I tend to give Average + ratings.
IMHO, a "Once in a Lifetime 10" should be the best you've ever had.  Otherwise it ain't.........Once in a Lifetime.
From that point 8's 9's are rare occssions.
Even a 7 would be a very good experience.
A 5-6 would be somebody who went through the motions.
Seems anytime I give a 5-6 it's kicked.


How can these "10"s and no sex 7s get through.
Sigh....................

It's not.
That's why I pay for full membership on/off.

I don't look for BBBJ.
I'm not sure I want DFK.  ( Sometimes I go for it.)
Safety and all you know.

Make me feel special.
Want to be there and want to be with me.
That's where you get your points in my book.

I've had a lot of girls meet these three ---

Kisses With Tongue

Bare-Back Blow Job

Really Bi

But did I give them a 10 for performance....No, They came close but not quite...I've meet some girls that have left me staggered and what not but I have not meet any (yet) that made my heart stop (or skip a beat, literally) - this must happen for me to qualify them a 10 Any lady takers out their wanna gamble?

I've only had one 10 I think and that was the double with Bekkah & Angelina...And I've only put one girl in the 10 department in the looks area. Now that I think back...Lila could have possibly received a 10 because of the CIM factor but....Well, even though, it was great It was a bit of a turnoff. sound crazy?!

I consider myself a hard critic and I'm very aware of what is expected (or what I could expect) because of the research I do...If its not given then I don't question it and I don't ask for it but I will definately include it in a review, If I find it to be sufficient to be included.  

Dunno...just my .02 Cents

Guz


-- Modified on 1/12/2005 5:54:55 PM

Lacey,

I don't think it is really a matter of fairness, but believe it is more a matter of subjectivity and perhaps some preconceived criteria.

You make some very good points.  Just like anyone else, you reserve the right to provide or deny whatever services you desire to whomever you desire.

Each and every person has their own likes, dislikes, fantasies, desires, and on the opposite side of the coin, things that disgust them or practices that do nothing for them.

A respectful client should provide positive or constructive feedback to the provider up front.  In my opinion, that is truly "fair" rankings.

Just my two cents.

...to say a woman must do x, y, & z to be "once in a life time", etc. *outside of TER*. After all, we all have different views as to what it takes to rock our worlds. In TER, however, if everybody knows that 10 means the provider does x, y, & z (as much as it indicates "quality"), then you're probably not really out anything.

I wouldn't worry about it too much. First and foremost guys are going to look at your pictures (we're visual), and since you're obviously a legitimate provider, if they really like what they see they're going to call, regardless of your ratings.

That said, if some guy wants "greek" on a particular day, even a "10/10" rating won't get you his business if you don't do "greek".

Lacey, don't be worried or offended by the TER policies.

Appearance and service provided can't be rated on a scale because there is absolutely NO way you can quantify a subject like this that is so totally subjective.  What is a 10 for person A has no relation to the measurement system of persons B, C and D.

Most gents know this when they look at reviews.  I disregard the numbers and look at the text.  I get more there than I ever will looking at the performance numbers.

http://theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=53079

In order to keep our performance ratings consistent, we set up the following system: An escort provider may only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she also performs the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, Anal Sex, or More than One Guy. The addition of each offering will raise the score she is eligible for by one point.

This does not mean she earns extra points for performing the service; just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is taken. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she has, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score.

This scale does not apply to FBSM or BDSM providers. By the nature of their service they are not expected to have these extras therefore they should not lose points for it.

If your review doesn’t already accurately reflect this rating system, we will adjust it.

When doing my research:

I start by looking at the scores in general.  What is the highest and lowest score?  

Then I look to see if I recognize any of the reviewer like Jeopcon1.  If I see a reviewer I know, I read it regardless of the score.

I look to see if there are any 10's and immediately check to see how many reviews the reviewer has.  If he as 1-5 reviews and they're of providers from the same agency or are very recent I immediately discount it and move onto the next criteria.

Next, I look for the lowest score and look at the reviewer as well.  I always read the lowest scores FIRST.

Then I'll take the time to read the older reviews of higher 8's and 9's, then the newer reviews of 8's and 9's.  

Generally, if the reviews are all over the place and she's regarded as inconsistent then that raises a flag.  If the scores are consistently high, then that's generally a good sign.  

Still no final decision yet!  Reading beyond the BBBJ, DATY,  I try and read the stuff that tells you about the person if the reviewer bothers to write about it.  Most don't.  And most guys score way too high, IMO.

I have to admit that I've given two 10's.  Marta formerly with Miami Companions and Victora of Taylor's elite.  Marta for squirting on me and Victoria because she couldn't keep her lips off my Penis.

I've scored generally lower since then.

...any guy why knows for certain that his girlfriend is in this business probably knows because he is her pimp.  And he probably doesn't care what she does as long as she is making money for him.  Anyway even in the unlikely event that he is a healthy normal guy it should be the least of his worries about her kissing his Mr. Winky.  Sorry a BJ is a BJ covered or not.  I'd be more concerned about what else she does with Mr. Winky.  Just because it's covered up doesn't mean that it's fake and didn't really happen.

Hmmm.... I will add you to our list.

-- Modified on 1/13/2005 5:44:14 PM

Hey Lacey,

I agree with other folks who have posted the sentiment that you should not worry about getting perfect 10s on this board.  Now I can't speak for everyone on here, but I think enough of us guys are satisfied using TER scores to find out first if a lady is friendly (in a GFE way) and does not have an attitude problem.  Then we use the profile to find out about the services we might expect; and I emphasize MIGHT because one never knows how a lady may be feeling during your particular visit.  (In other words, YMMV.)  Next, many of us will go to the provider's website to see pictures of the lady to find out whether she is "our type."  Finally we read, and often savor, the VIP details.

Now here's a peak inside my mind:
In your case, I see that you are a beautiful brunette, with sexy eyes and a wonderful smile, and a booty-licious phat behind!!  I like women who are a little bit thick, so we're off to a great start!  Then I notice that you're only a one pop gal, and that puts a damper on things for me....  But I saw that you recently advertised on the Washington Board that multiples are now a part of your experience, or at least they were at that certain point in time.  Is that a policy change, or was it just a limited time offer and/or only for certain TER guys who were incessantly complaining about it at the time?

Also, there is another question I attempted to ask you this last night, but my message must have gotten suppressed by TER.  Maybe I went a bit too far in describing certain acts, or perhaps my tone came across as too coarse.  Whatever; it doesn't matter.  I will try again, and hopefully I'll be more respectful this time:

First, let me start off by saying that I understand and agree absolutely 100% that you (or anyone else) should only provide whatever services during a session that you: 1) enjoy, 2) wish to, and/or 3) are comfortable with.  That being said....

After reading your post on this topic, I went to check out your reviews, and I reread your profile.  It seems to me from your post that you equate being "intimate" with acts involving the mouth.  Specifically, you mention that your services involve no bbbj and no kissing.  And you ask if other provider's boyfriends still want to kiss them after having another guy's Mr. Winkie in their mouths.  But the puzzling thing I find is that you offer DATY.  It is in your TER profile from the very beginning, and it is included in a review as recent as December.  

With all due respect, I don't understand how this particular act also involving the mouth, in this case his on your Miss Nannie Noo-noo, is viewed in your mind by your significant other.  Not to put too fine a point on it, but I truly don't see how that is different from you offering a bbbj to your clients.  I realize you can, and assuredly do, wash and scrub up afterwards.  But one can also brush their teeth and gargle afterwards.  Am I missing something here?

Thanks,
PM

...it's the Monthly Bugle.

We have sometime in common - the almighty Kryptonite.

Well Lacy, many of my points have all ready been made by previous posters under your thread.  Most of these points have also been made numerous previous times on this board.  Basically I think TER is trying to somehow standardize a point system when, in fact, you really can't do that for something that is subjective and means different things to different people.  For example, greek is supposed to get a point, however it is USELESS for me.  I like kinky women, but there is little or no means to add points for this.

 Nonetheless, if I violate TER's scoring rules in a review, they can and will adjust points DOWNWARD, even though the gal "rocked my world" (and my writeup stated so).  In fact, TER has lowered my scores on two or three occasions.  Problem is, we hobbyists and reviewers are stuck with the same system that you providers are.

 Many are constantly bitching about TER's rules and policies in here, to no avail.  Even emails to them don't work.  The attitude seems to be: "if you join you play by our rules".  My reply is: we pay the bills; there should be some democratic means for the VIP members to have REAL input in the rules.  But, as many have said before: "don't hold your breath".