Any girl that doesn't is dumb. Just do it!

..and I would never insult a gentleman, and directly ask him for my gift.  I have been a courtesan on and off, for many years, and have been shorted, one time, and yes, I did collect later in the week.

  On the other hand, I was shorted $200. by a regular overnight gentleman caller, but since he is truly is a regular, and it was all new bills, I did not even mention it.  It was not worth it for me, to make him feel bad.

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

and what kind of clients she sees.

But having said that, I always pay in advance.

I take the money out and count it and put in plastic bag. I put it on the counter so the provider can see it. Some will count later on others will count it right then and there while I take off my clothes. Savings those plastic bags are handy from lunch.

Screened men do not need to have their money counted.

We live off of our reputation.

There is a concept called blacklisting.  All providers can execute this option on screened clients.
Most of us work hard to avoid this.

Personally, I would  have let the man know and got my couple hundred bucks back but if you are okay with it... Rock on!!!  Yeah, if he is a regular you honestly trust $200 is not worth it!

Excuse yourself to bathroom, or ask us to take a shower. We shouldn't be offended.  If there are any issue, tell us to take a hike!

You will be protecting both yourself and us the DC client community!

Oh my. That's happened to me on rare occasion, and I am not put off if a provider calls me about my  error. I actually find it very embarrasing and totally not me...but it is correctable and worth one's reputation.
Personally,I  would never want it brushed off!

...something that is really none of your business is what is dumb.  From your posts, it would seem that any provider who would agree to see you but didn't ask for the money up front might be dumb.  Fortunately, most of the rest of the world doesn't operate with such a high level of mistrust of our fellow human beings.  What business practices a provider chooses to use are her choice, and it is unfair to categorically criticize all who choose to use any particular practice.  Personally, I prefer to just leave an envelope in some convenient or designated location and have no mention of it at anytime during the appointment.  But I choose providers with whom I would expect to be able to operate with a reasonable level of trust.

Mind your own business. How providers choose to handle the donation is their own choice. Every service industry I've dealt with collects money after services rendered, and that is my preference. If a provider checks the envelope or counts the money in front of me, then they've already established that they don't trust me and I'm offended,. Of course it won't stop the session and I won't write about it, but that's how I feel. I've found that women who screen thoroughly do not need to check the envelope and provide a better experience in the end. It's the once that ask for reference and never check them who check the envelope, which isn't surprising (what is the trust supposed to be based off if you don't screen).

Anyways, this seems to be all you worry about. Instead, why don't you worry about what you do, which is to pay for the sex. Let the providers handle things however they want. However, if I were dealing with a racist like you, I'd follow your advice make sure the envelope was checked beforehand--although I'd probably not see you LOL

unless it is about someone getting ripped off or hurt. i never nor should you joke around with those kind of crap.


But yeah, to answer your question,  although I'm highly adored by many providers here, they should definitely count the money before our session start. I think i should actually give additional points to the girls that do that. LOL

I worry more about dudes like you. Sorry


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If anything you said were true enough to stand by, you wouldn't post under an alias.

count the donation wrong or whatever. It should be verified.
I typically don't verify money, though I've been burned by regulars over years.
And I've had clients appreciate that I count it or let them know if they were short.

Why do you feel insecure or less than if a lady verifies the money?

PLUS none mention I count in front of them.  As I don't Mr. Alias.

How would you like it if an upscale restaurant asked to hold your credit card before seating you? You know, so you don't dine and dash. It's all part of an overall experience; there's a certain tackiness to it. All I am saying is that if I'm spending $$$$+/hr that's definitely a "finer things in life" experience and it should come with a certain level of professionalism. If I can afford that, I shouldn't immediately be treated as crook. I've only had it counted in front of me once and the rest of the session I couldn't help but feel she just cared about the money (and yes, I know that is priority #1, but at least give me the illusion!).

With your price range and rating, it looks like you're catering more to the Mickey D's fast food experience, in which case, it is probably wise to follow their business model and collect money upfront. You obviously are seeing completely different clientele than the providers I see. They probably don't care about the "experience" and just want a quick hit and quit.

If you don't pay a restaurant for the meal, the cops are called when you leave...what recourse do we have in an ILLEGAL profession? I am not saying I count the money upfront or in front of the client, but don't try and make a correlation with the practices of legal businesses in relation to this one, as your basis for not doing things in the same way they do.  It simply does not add up. FYI, every time I have ever been shorted, it was by a so called "professional hobbyist." Once, I even had his employment info. and still never got that money from him.

There is a way most providers do this, and it seems to be the most commonly accepted. Guy places donation in the bathroom, girl excuses herself to "go change or freshen up" and checks donation. Fun starts. Done deal.

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You have something more powerful than the police!  You have the blacklist!

Fully screened clients such as myself do prefer the no money count treatment, it does add to a feeling of elegance.

If I rip off any provider she always has the option to put me on blast permanently on the internet.

This will cause problems when I go to make dates with other ladies in the future, this would be an outcome that
I would certainly want to avoid!

No hon the cops are NEVER called when you leave, for the same reason that many high end stores don't confront shoplifters. How often do you think this happens? I've worked as manager at an upscale restaurant and I can count the dine and dashes and customers who accidently leave less than the check on one hand. It's not worth the trouble to involve the authorities in these situations, rather, its a cost we have to factor in running a business.

I agree with the comment above. Send me to jail before you put me on the blacklist!

Thank you! You cannot compare this to other service industries. If you don't pay for your car after it's been fixed.. you don't get your car back. If you don't pay the guy who puts in your new furnace.. they take it back & sue you in court for labor. It is NOT the same. After we've rendered our services, & don't get paid, or get shorted... what can we get back? And blacklists don't mean a damn thing to some guys....they just change up their information, & then go pull it on someone else.

If all gents would place the donation in plain site, & then excuse themselves to wash up quickly, this would never be a problem. A provider ensuring that she is compensated for her time should not ruin the illusion.

I had this guy's REAL info. and still do not have the money that was shorted....bullshit. Most of them could not care less about the consequences of ripping off "some whore" lol. Maybe you do, and I applaud you, but many do not.

Don't get me wrong...I would call them for a rape or assault, but not a rip off, and many ladies would not either. The point is, a legal business can SUE YOU for not doing your part in paying...we can't. It's a moot issue to try and make that correlation. Just because the establishments you've worked at, did not partake in their given RIGHT, does not make it any less available. We do not have that same right as an illegal business.

I would never be so petty or cheap to fault a lady for counting her damn money before she fks you for 2 hours. Sorry, but only guys afraid of the fall out would in fact lower a score only for that. This is not match.com, it's fks for bucks, and if we did not protect ourselves from getting ripped off, no one would. This is also why I avoid seeing certain board boys...the entitlement is absurd.

Tell me...what would you rather...a woman who knows she is paid and can deliver 100 percent, or one who has to be thinking the entire time that you ripped her off, and is a robot? Well, the one who knows she was paid, is likely do be better than the one wondering if she just gave her body to you for x amount of time, and was paid only 20 percent.



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Completely agree. But, then I guess it depends on the type of guys you're allowing to see you. If you have to ask, then possibly try upping your standards in screening/accepting..

Yeah, I guess it depends on the type of lady you see...If there's no intimacy or true affection, then it's straight up business transaction.

EXACTLY!

Many of us actually *DO* care about the connection more then the donation. I've opted to no longer see someone, and they had plenty of money and wanted to continue seeing me.

.... and you'll never see the money counted anyways (i've never counted in front of anyone) if you take that minute to at least go wash your hands, gargle etc etc after you've placed the donation down (assuming you showered before arriving).

I remember when I first started in the hobby I had read somewhere that the best method was to leave donation in the bathroom. I tried it a few times and stopped, too much confusion in my experience. I would leave donation in bathroom come back to the room and she would just be looking at me like where's the donation. I say something like would like to go to the bathroom too? She's like no I'm fine. Still awkward. She's still got that WHERE'S MY DONATION LOOK? So then I just say I left something for you in the bathroom. Still confused look. She's goes in comes back and says I didn't see anything. So I'm like what? I go in grab the envelope and place it on the hotel stand in her line of sight. She's like OH! I didn't see that, then she gets mildly upset saying she doesn't like playing around like that. I'm like SHEESCH! So much for following that method. Now I always just place a white envelope in her line of sight like next to my keys on a table then I excuse myself to the bathroom. Even if I don't have to go. I'll just wash my hands and take my time. Often I'll hear the envelope opened and money counted. When I return the envelope is usually back in same general place I left it and when I leave I just pick up my keys only. Seems to work best for me.

True, but if one of those services don't provide an acceptable level of service, you get a refund.  

The problems are the same on both sides.  Providers aren't anymore or less put out by shady people doing shady things.  For every prider that has a story about being stiffed, there is a hobbyist with a story about being on the wrong end of a bait and switch, or driving a long distance only to not have the provider answer, or take their money and then start yelling.