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Peppermint 1376 reads
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1 / 33

ok, I understand that an agency wants to make as much money as possible, but this is getting ridiculous.  I saw a provider from ClassyDC the other day, and my appt was scheduled for 6pm.  I called 5 minutes before to let them know I was there and they said she was getting ready...I didn't hear back until 6:10.  Ok fine, not that huge of a deal I figured I could extend my session a bit to make up the difference.  By the time I got to the room, made introductions and took a quick shower it was already 6:20.  

The session was ok and the girl was great, but by 6:50 she asked me if i planned on taking a shower after our session, and if so, we'd have to finish now because she had an appt at 7pm and she needed to get ready.  She also said she had appointments at 8pm and 9pm and she had one before me at 5pm hence why my appointment started late.  I was pretty much rushed out the door as by 6:55 the agency was calling her telling her that her next appointment was ready.  

Are you kidding me??  ClassyDc isn't even letting these girls get a chance to breath in between appointments.  I was under the impression that I paid $$$ for a hour.  And this made me wonder if the girls are even able to take a shower in between appointments.  I asked her about this and she replied that she usually hopes she has a chance to "rinse off" in between.  

I know girls see multiple people a day, I try not to think about it.  But this is making me want to quit this hobby as I can't bear the thought that I pretty much just had sex with the dude who she saw 5 seconds before me...it's a wonder we didn't run into each other in the hallway.  And I feel sorry for the girls.  One girl at Prime told me she had so many appointments one day that by the end of the day her whole body was shaking, not in a good way.  

Anyone else have thoughts on this?  

Whaaaaaaambulance 1034 reads
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2 / 33

...And yes you are being processed through a meat factory.

If you're dealing with a service like Classy or Prime its best to make sure your appointments are early in the day if you don't want to swallow another man's residual saliva or cum.

If you can't handle the chop-shop atmosphere deal with independents who book for themselves and whose manner doesn't leave you with the impression that you're being pushed in and out of the door every hour on the hour for the next client.

WTFisWRONG 795 reads
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3 / 33

Men who patronize agencies do so because they like variety. They can get screened once and see a lot of different girls. Agencies with a high turn over rate are perfect for this type of guy. Little does he know or care that the reason for the high turn over rate is due to shitty management/poor treatment of employees. One girl leaves and its "oh well I already saw her" a new girl replaces her and it "cool, new girl to bone"  The girls are treated like cattle and so are the clients.
Agencies like this stay busy because of you guys supporting them.
You KNOW damned well whats going on behind the scenes but you continue to use their services. Its been discussed here, during pillow talk and backchannel so am I missing something?
I learned the hard way that classy does not screen. Then I learned the hard way that they dont give a shit what happens to me or any other girl. They are in this business to make as much $ as possible and fuck their employees for free.
Can we act like adults and decent human beings and try to support agencies who are known for treating the girls well or are we going to continue to feed into the stereotype the media portrays of our hobby/business.

WTFisWRONG 1007 reads
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4 / 33

Indy and agency clients are different so dont worry about indy girls.
Indy gril clients take time to read websites and get a feel for a girls personality and want to really know her. They spend more time with indy girls, bring gifts and really treat her well. Indy girl clients usually prefer a certain type of girl whether it be age, race, body type, personality type etc.
Agency clients have a candy shoppe mentality. They want to check out stats and pics and dont care for a bio. They want to taste all different colors of the rainbow.
This is generally speaking, I know some guys use both but for the most part agencies and Indy girls are in no competition
Also dont think all agency girls are mistreated. Some girls are happy with agencies and cant work indy because they have a busy personal life, family, school or whatever.

Whaaaaaaambulance 946 reads
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5 / 33

Because they're being worked like racehorses, that's why.

Some girls can handle it and want as much as possible in a few days so they can do it as infrequently as possible (once a month).

The majority however cannot and cut out fast.

Its all up to the individual girl's temperament and endurance.

Whaaaaaaambulance 620 reads
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6 / 33
follonero 982 reads
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7 / 33

that agency gals had at least a 30 min to hour break between appointments. I know that not to be true. Often I have not gotten the room number call until 10-15 minutes into my hour. Recently a gal was so rushed that a baby wipe was left on the floor, and when I placed the envelope on the dresser, the previous guy's envelope was still there. And I've gotten the shower suggestion and the 'thanks for coming to see me' line with 10 to 15 minutes left in the hour. This has happened with even the most reputable area agencies.

weggggggggg 41 Reviews 1067 reads
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8 / 33

... the major reason I always strive to be the first appointment of the day for the lady I intend to see, even for ladies who are independent.  The original post is a very good one, a critique illuminating health and quality time issues that should be a major concern for both the ladies who provide the service and those of us who look to them for their service.  At times I think the managers of some of these agencies give respectability to alley cats and junkyard dogs.  I do not think this criticism applies to all the agencies, especially one in this area that is managed by a lady.

RealityCheckToo 1272 reads
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9 / 33

As with any profit making enterprise, time is money. Any "independents" who are worth seeing operate in no less of a meat factory manner but they are just less obvious about it. Their business managers are just as interested in maximizing profit.

Isabella_camil 1717 reads
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10 / 33

Welcome to the life of a DC escort.  When working for an agency, often they would line up 10 to 12 clients a day during tours.  Seldom did one have much time off in between appointments.  It is as you describe.  Providers were strongly encouraged (coerced, threatened, etc) to maintain that pace.  They don’t care, they are getting their third by just answering the phones and screening. By the end of the day one would be worn out and tired.  That’s when mistakes start to happen, like forgetting to take the proper safety precautions because you are tired and have mental lapses.  The clients don’t care because they are excited and they think it’s an extra treat because each one thinks they are special.  So think about being client #8 during one of those days.  I have already been with the previous 7 (dfk, bbbjtc, mish, etc) with each and every client.  Hopefully I remembered to brush my teeth in between and rinse with an antiseptic mouthwash.  Maybe I remembered to use protection with them too.  The lapses in failing to use the proper safety equipment and practices become more prevalent on the third or fourth day.  By that time one would have seen some 30 to 40 clients.

But this is done for the money.  One would typically make two grand a day, CASH.  And over the course of a week long tour, I would easily come home with fifteen grand, CASH.  And that is after having seen a few clients who were friends of the agency or well respected members of the “community”.  Have to build up that street cred.  But when it’s all said and done, it’s not bad money even if you consider constantly being on antibiotics, anxiety, depression, blood pressure medications and the physical and emotional toll it takes.

So this is why so many providers go independent.  If we choose to see that many in a day (which you will never know because we do!) we at least do so making a heck of a lot more money than with the agency.  

Go to you tube and view “the mind of an escort”.

Isabella_camil 1028 reads
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11 / 33

If you think that your trying to be the first appointment of the day.......I have a bridge to sell you!  That may have been what you were told, but couldn't have been further from the truty.  If we were to see each other at 10am and I got a last minute call for 830am, I took it.  If I charged you $500 and hour and another guy filled an open time slot for $200 and hour, I took it.  I am here working and I have fixed cost to meet and startup costs to meet on each tour.  I am all about maximizing revenue per day.  PERIOD.  And this is even more true now that I am independent.  That you tube video is so true.

dontbenaive 639 reads
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12 / 33

I agree that some agencies are better than others but it's obvious that if they have already prepaid a room and have a potential customer on the hook who can only squeeze in a time that might fall right on the heels of another appointment they will take it rather than leave the money on the table.   You'd be crazy to think that isn't the case.  
I just hate when they would pretend it doesn't happen like when you get the 10-15 minute brush off and the excuse that "she is just checking in" only to find that there are multiple used towels and the trashcan is full.  By the way, this has happened with some of those you suggest might be the more noble ones.

SexualPosition 920 reads
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13 / 33

Here is a reality check for you.  I am an independent.  Have been for several years.  It is not uncommon for me to see only one client a day.  And I am worth seeing.  Mostly I try to book longer appointments.  But when I see someone for an hour or 90 minutes, they might still be the only appointment I will accept for that day.  If they are not the only one for that day, I always schedule my appointments with (at the very least) an hour between them so I can bathe and flush out my girlie goods with fresh soap and water.  Also, since I do not count showering time as part of our time together, I always assume an extra 10-15 mins may be needed to shower before and after.

Business manager???  Are you serious?  No offense.  But you really have no clue.  Independent ladies like me work for ourselves.  Period.  No one else is involved.

MyNewHandle 883 reads
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14 / 33

I posted a similar complaint against EGC about a year ago and was banned from seeing their girls because of it. These girls are just pieces of meat to the agencies; they get chewed up and spit out. Why do you think there's such a huge turnover ratio? The girls can only do this for a short while and they get burned out. Pure and the now defunct TGND are the only exceptions that I can think of.

Of course, I don't lay all the blames on the agencies. Some of the visiting girls told me they want to take as many appointments as possible when they start the tour. The agencies schedule the appointments accordingly but the girls get burned out near the end. That's why so many girls sudden get ill and leave early. Just make sure you make an early appointment to see the girls at the 1st or the 2nd day of their tour.

SexualPosition 550 reads
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15 / 33
kingmirth1 8 Reviews 943 reads
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16 / 33

I've only been in the hobby for about 6 months. Signed up with a agency, but never used them because of this concern. After seeing several lovely ladies, I found one that is a low volume provider and the best of all the others. I understand everyone needs to make a living, but the independents are at a disadvantage and deserve to survive also.

dclooker 1022 reads
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17 / 33

I just looked at that youtube video, or at least as much as I could stomach.  The woman, who seems to be only a reader and not the person who wrote the words since she seemed very unfamiliar with what was in the "script" oozes with attitude and contempt.  I don't know whether she looks good or not, but her attitude comes through the computer, and not in a positive way.  I believe escorts like her exist, but I don't believe people are fooled by her.  

If that describes you I hope you use the money you have to give yourself other options, like options you can pursue where you don't hate the life around you.  It's really quite sad.  

RealityCheckToo 1220 reads
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18 / 33

I apologize if I offended but that is the problem with generalizations. There are exceptions to every rule.

SexualPosition 938 reads
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19 / 33

All providers are different.  We all do things differently when it comes to our business.  Like you said, there are exceptions to every rule.  In the case of providers, they vary widely.

OldTraveler 40 Reviews 626 reads
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20 / 33

This can happen with agencies or independents, and you can also get great treatment with agencies and independents.

Some of each work on the volume approach, others do not.  I have never used the agency you refer to so I cannot talk about them.  I have used agencies that are almost exclusively ladies who have a full time "real" job and see a client two or three nights, one a night.

I will say that with an independent the decision to keep things unrushed is strictly hers, with an agency either one can cause things to be rushed.

tcruise777 474 reads
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21 / 33

Posted By: OldTraveler
This can happen with agencies or independents, and you can also get great treatment with agencies and independents.

Some of each work on the volume approach, others do not.  I have never used the agency you refer to so I cannot talk about them.  I have used agencies that are almost exclusively ladies who have a full time "real" job and see a client two or three nights, one a night.

I will say that with an independent the decision to keep things unrushed is strictly hers, with an agency either one can cause things to be rushed.

tcruise777 1023 reads
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22 / 33

I agree with most of your post.  However, there are very few, if any, agencies or ladies who "see a client two or three nights, one a night" voluntarily.  Both the agencies and ladies try to maximize earnings.  Sidney Biddle Barrows ran a very classy escort service in New York city.  I had the honor of using her service once and it was one of the highlights of my life.  However, in her book, Mayflower Madam, Barrows admits that she lied to her clients that her ladies only saw one gentleman a night.

OldTraveler 40 Reviews 842 reads
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23 / 33

I agree with you there are few agencies like that.  I have been fortunate enough to find a couple.  One was more a co-op of a few ladies in similar situations.  They did all have full time jobs and pitched in to jointly lease two apartments that they would share as needed.  It meant only two could work at any time, and their regular work usually limited them to days.

The other agency was also small, stayed under the radar, and did almost exclusively overnights.

In both cases I knew the people well enough to know that once a day a couple times a week was indeed the norm.

A third one, the now gone AfterHoursDC, seemed to be similar though I cannot be certain in that case.

beastadaeast 386 reads
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24 / 33
nihilator 845 reads
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25 / 33

We need more threads like this to balance the naivete contained in alot of the reviews.

My contribution here.  Sure, if you go with an agency you are more likely to be stacked between other clients.  However, indies sometimes play by the same rules.  I knew one top indy who preferred to work just a few days a month but see as many guys as possible on those days.  She would seemingly be available all the time, but would set up her appointments all for the same day or days.

Along these lines, I must admit that I have often initially planned to see a really desirable visiting provider but later talked myself out of it thinking it more obvious that I would be seeing her soon after someone else.  

And so the beat goes on - the quest for the ultimate low-volume incredible GFE/PSE!

tcruise777 775 reads
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26 / 33

You were indeed fortunate to find these three "good agencies".  For the first two agencies, I note that you use the verb "was."  Are these agencies no longer in business?

Posted By: OldTraveler
I agree with you there are few agencies like that.  I have been fortunate enough to find a couple.  One was more a co-op of a few ladies in similar situations.  They did all have full time jobs and pitched in to jointly lease two apartments that they would share as needed.  It meant only two could work at any time, and their regular work usually limited them to days.

The other agency was also small, stayed under the radar, and did almost exclusively overnights.

In both cases I knew the people well enough to know that once a day a couple times a week was indeed the norm.

A third one, the now gone AfterHoursDC, seemed to be similar though I cannot be certain in that case.

Anticapitalist 748 reads
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27 / 33

The fact that no agency has yet responded to these comments is proof that this practice is prevalent (it has happened to me, too).

OldTraveler 40 Reviews 730 reads
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28 / 33

Yes, I know I was fortunate.

As far as I know all three are now closed, though I keep in touch with a few of the ladies, mostly socially.

OldTraveler 40 Reviews 696 reads
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29 / 33

Just because someone does not speak up does not make them guilty of anything.

I suspect it is the same as many of the ladies feel:  if they defend themselves, no matter how civily, it hurts their business.  Too many potential clients are spring loaded to believe the worst and are looking for a reason to scratch someone off their list.  Publicity may be good, anything preceived as "drama", no matter which side is right, hurts business.

Do you prefer to be presumed guilty?

Carefirst 654 reads
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30 / 33

First everyone understand this post was not written by Isabella. Isabella is a well known lady in DC. She has had to change her personna because 1. She has an ex husband who is trying to make it impossible to make any kind of living and is posting horrible things about her. 2. She has gone from working for an agency to being independent. Under her old name (and I will let her tell you that if she wants). She has a number of reviews all of which have 9s for service. And the only reason they are not 10s is because she does not go greek. If you want the definition of class, luxury, and an outstanding experience Isabela is your lady.

The goals of this post is obvious 1. It is to have people question her practices - especially the stuff about cleaninjg up and forgetting to use protection on the 4th or 5th appointmnet of the day. Isabella is an extremely clean and safe provider.  2. This is an attempt to cause issues with Isabella and the agency she has worked with in DC. Such relationships can be volitile and this type of retoric if it ever gets pieced together can put a lady in phsyical danger.

I guarantee this is another attempt by her asshold ex husband who even has cost her job opportunities outside of the hobby and ruined a very good business she ran.

I have seen Isabella a number of times and have her on my ATF list along with Angelia (Isabella is in that class).

I hope this sheds some light. While the problems put out there are great for discussion Isabella did not write it. And does not operate in the manner suggessted. She left the agency business because of the exact situation noted and to protect herself.

To the ex in texas your days are numbered stealing someones identity and impersonating them over the Internet is a federal offense - you really should stop adding more dirt on the top of the grave you have already dug for yourself. Your real identity and contact info will be revealed if you dont stop.

There are people who know where you were married to Isabella and can lead people to that record. Also you should have the balls to let people know how you met her - THROUGH THE HOBBY and failed at trying to live the Pretty Woman fairy tail because you messed with things relating to her children that you should have left alone.

Isabella exudes class, she does not speak in the tone that the post was written, no in some of her alleged responses. Simply put she did not write or start this.

Posted By: Isabella_camil
Welcome to the life of a DC escort.  When working for an agency, often they would line up 10 to 12 clients a day during tours.  Seldom did one have much time off in between appointments.  It is as you describe.  Providers were strongly encouraged (coerced, threatened, etc) to maintain that pace.  They don’t care, they are getting their third by just answering the phones and screening. By the end of the day one would be worn out and tired.  That’s when mistakes start to happen, like forgetting to take the proper safety precautions because you are tired and have mental lapses.  The clients don’t care because they are excited and they think it’s an extra treat because each one thinks they are special.  So think about being client #8 during one of those days.  I have already been with the previous 7 (dfk, bbbjtc, mish, etc) with each and every client.  Hopefully I remembered to brush my teeth in between and rinse with an antiseptic mouthwash.  Maybe I remembered to use protection with them too.  The lapses in failing to use the proper safety equipment and practices become more prevalent on the third or fourth day.  By that time one would have seen some 30 to 40 clients.

But this is done for the money.  One would typically make two grand a day, CASH.  And over the course of a week long tour, I would easily come home with fifteen grand, CASH.  And that is after having seen a few clients who were friends of the agency or well respected members of the “community”.  Have to build up that street cred.  But when it’s all said and done, it’s not bad money even if you consider constantly being on antibiotics, anxiety, depression, blood pressure medications and the physical and emotional toll it takes.

So this is why so many providers go independent.  If we choose to see that many in a day (which you will never know because we do!) we at least do so making a heck of a lot more money than with the agency.  

Go to you tube and view “the mind of an escort”.

Fugly 493 reads
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Fugly 595 reads
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I have no way of knowing but it does appear that someone has an agenda.

perfect10! 365 reads
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Do you have a website or pics?  Am interested in getting together.  Thanks!

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