Some fellow hobbyiests said they have young girls on the side wherein they meet on the streets, restaurants, etc-- and have seen them for fun and helping pay off bills.  Apparently even BBFS is more likely with this route.  

Basically the Sugar Daddy role-- but sees them for hours for $$$ or whatever.

So I have this great lead on this girl that is a hostess at a Bethesda restaurant.

I have her information and got a good vibe. She basically thinks that I am offering her a job to serve drinks, etc at my poker game that I host--not really, but definetly possible.  

She didn't seem interested at first, but when I mentioned 200 dollars for 3-4 hours-- she was like YEAH!!

This girl is super hot.  She game me her number and full name and got her myspace.  Sorry, but I can't share that if you were wondering.

I am pretty good at "reading people" and I think she might be down.

So please give me some advice on how I can pull off the last part of the deal.

This could be great, but the woman may actually think she is only serving drinks ... in which case you have a slap in the face coming at a minimum!

She probably is down for this. I have an arrangement with a young college hottie and it is quite a bit of fun. I'll buy her books, clothes and such and she will do anything in return.

actually set up the poker game. have her play the role of hostess. check her attitude after the game and wing it from there.

first on the ethical side, trying to manipulate a woman that way is exploitive and creepy. My opinion. *Just sayin'*  

second, on the practical side, pussy costs so much more in the long run on the lease plan than on the rental. And the complications can be massive especially where civvy tail is concerned.

There are so many providers out there who are willingly and knowingly providing a service (and honestly some for whom this may not be entirely true). Why not give them the biz and keep it simple?

Or - if you want to be a sugar daddy and drop some serious money, propose a long term lease plan to a provider you have "interviewed" and are happy with. THAT sometimes works pretty well. Some ladies like a break now and then, be taken off the market. But be sure you can really afford it...

The outlay winds up being astronomical compared to the good ole' rental plan.....

With the right woman however, I'd do it again lol.

*opinions* on the post and offer feedback that is tangential to the "question".

i just find it interesting and amusing to see that every person posting on TER has their own peculiar and personal style of being prudish or judgemental. this poster is not excepted.

for some reason the tangent you took particularly tickled me.

partly perhaps it is the implicit assumption you make about the man being in control of this situation, that it cannot fit the young ladies predilection. maybe it is also that i am fresh from an e-mail (not PM) discussion about the appropriateness of ethical judgements on a board such as this.

"creepy" is an ethical judgement albeit an implicit one. so i get to send an e-mail to my correspondent with more evidence to support my case.

i know... too much explanation....

Ok. So just went downstairs and said to her "Hey, you got a minute I want to give you something."

I presented her an envelope with $200 dollars. And said "don't be weirded out but I want to give this to you".

She said something along the lines of "I can't take this"... I continued along the lines of I won some money in poker last week and I want to give it to you before I loose it playing. And I went on to spit out some crap about Karma, and I got a vibe that you really could use it, etc.  She took and and texted me back THANK YOU, etc.

Long story, but I am in a hotel room right now because I have to be in Bethesda tomorrow early. And I just met her this evening at the restaurant downstairs.

This girl is REALLY HOT. Even the 30% chance to BBFS this girl on a regular basis for $$ for an evening is worth it.

So now when I meet her for lunch next week I can go the regular route, or spit out the sugar daddy proposition.

Honestly, her body language and demeanor-- I like my chances.  

Just FYI, I am younger 32, and good looking. I've been meaning to try this route for the longest, but been really busy with a project. Again, she is hot and worth the chance.

The reason for going this route is several:

This girl is HOT and not all providers are this hot.

What if I can work out a weekly visit for 250 for a whole evening? I would eventually try and get BBFS if it seems appropriate.

Please any insight would be nice.

look dude, giving her the money for no reason was a huge step in the wrong direction.

find the need first.  find out how poor she is.  then suggest that you would like to help her.

explain to her that you are a busy executive and would enjoy her company on a NSA (no string attached) basis.  

she will then put the whole idea together (if she is really dumb you can help her along) and go with it or act insulted.

take her out and give her minimal "help".  ONCE.  then tell her you really like her and would like to help her more... it should flow from there or die on the vine.

look, you are not going to trick her into this, just be easy and dole out the $ very slowly while letting her see that there is more where that came from.

this is a tough road with minimal chances for success - but if it works out it could be great.

Full disclosure - I have a setup like this now with a model (B-team, not Playboy or Maxim).  She is at least my 10th in as many years.

One of the things I always make sure I remember to do correctly when trying to start out with a new one is to act the part, busy successful benefactor.  Get your attitude aligned with your expectations.

Also, cut your loses quickly.  She may play you. lol

What's wrong with the local ladies who choose to do this?  I completely respect their decision and appreciate them for being there.  But to try and trick or push them into for your own gratification is disgusting.

This is the sickest thread I've ever seen here.  Where are the mods on this one?

I have a 29 yo daughter and I would go ballistic if I found some idiot trying to play that game on her.

And you advertise it publicly.  Grow up!

I'm with db911 !! What he said was reasonable in all senses. If i were u, i would do what db911 suggests.

To be honest we will have the greatest pleasure 4m banging the one whom we likes, Not the one whom we bangs in the hobby "its just like watching a movie and jerking off" *just saying*!!

Good Luck..Do it in a right way !! Nothing Wrong.

Very well said goinsolo! Completely agree with you!!!

It seems to me like you are trying to take two totally different things and combine them together, but you are getting the worst of both.

Established providers have a lot going for them. It is a simple transaction. You don't have to worry much about being outed. They are there when you want, not there when you don't want them to be. The only real down side is cost.

Civvies have limited benefits for married guys (which I don't know whether you are or aren't). There are a far larger number of them to go after if you choose to. You might end up paying less in "relationship overhead" than you do outright in cash to providers. Or you may not. But they also have a lot of drawbacks. They haven't mentally and emotionally gotten themselves acclimated to the fringe role they find themselves. They don't have a shot of the prince sweeping them off their feet for happily ever after. They could easily feel used, and resent it in a way that could come back and bite you if they feel so inclined.

To put it bluntly, you seem to be just looking for easily-manipulated pussy on the cheap. You appear to be aiming right for the murky and danger-filled area between hobby and civvie. It seems to have more risk than either in itself. She hasn't gone looking for a sugar daddy, but you are looking for the sugar baby at bargain bin prices.


You also seem to be fixated on the prospects of BBFS. With a non-professional, yet non-romantic interest, what are you proposing to get from her? She wouldn't be exclusive to you, nor could you expect her to be. So you are looking for the Russian roulette game. Is she really consenting to that?

Not that you asked, but you may be better off sticking with providers or just looking to have an affair (for "free"). Ending up in between, vaguely paying a lady who may not really be a fully willing participant seems like a recipe for trouble, financially, emotionally and legally.

I'm not trying to be mean, or overly judgemental, but I see lots more risk in your endeavor than most of us are willing to take on. Of course, it is your call and your life, so go for it if you want to. But you did post looking for advice...

If you are looking for BBFS at your age sounds like you have a desire to reproduce.

You should be looking for someone to marry.

I am not going to judge anyone's morality, especially given the nature of this board, but for what it is worth, here is what it comes down to for me --

If you get the girl to agree and she is not exclusive, you are definitely risking contracting something nasty (considering she is as flexible as you want her to be).

Or, if she is exclusive and gets attached to you, she is going to feel wronged when you end it and that will either cost you a lot of money or a lot of reputation.

I have seen a few friends set up these situations and it always ended up costing them a lot of money.  

If you are thinking of going this route I have one name that may make you think otherwise....

STEVE MCNAIR...would he have been considered a sugar daddy?