Washington DC

Re: my theory is...
EasyCompany 1485 reads
posted
1 / 31

What is it with the influx of visitors at 4.0-8.0 ?

Gonna be riding the bench

billyclub2 8 Reviews 1122 reads
posted
2 / 31

It's DC...  this area is one of the greatest concentrations of wealth on the planet.  I don't think they are marketing themselves for the average 9-5 guy.  Either get a better gig or accept the fact that by seeing providers in the 250-300 range you are still getting to be with ladies that are hotter than 90% of the male population gets.

Sounds like a good deal to me either way.

db911 34 Reviews 1288 reads
posted
3 / 31

I have seen them from 200 to 1000.  Not worth it above 400.  Total ripoff.  There is NOTHING they do that is worth the price difference.  

Exclusive?  Give me a break.  How is a provider exclusive??? Whoever has $ can do her.  

Better looking?  Just as random in the looks department as 300-400 range.

Better service?  Read the reviews, not always better service, not always what you are expecting.  

Be very very careful if you choose to go over 400.  There is no compelling reason to spend that premium unless that ONE particular woman really turns you on.

Disclaimer for the White Knights -- yeh, yeh, yeh, a woman can charge whatever she wants, set her own price and let the market decide.  I am not advocating that any one woman set her price at any particular level.  I am merely saying to you boys in the hobby that I have been there got the t-shirt and not gonna get another. lol

EasyCompany 619 reads
posted
4 / 31
db911 34 Reviews 520 reads
posted
5 / 31
EF24T 75 Reviews 824 reads
posted
6 / 31

We are all entitled to our own opinions, and if he is happy with $250 to $400 girls, more power to him.  I typically see escorts who charge between $450 and $500 an hour, and have gone up to $600 -- which BTW was my all time favorite experience with an escort.  

So what do the pricier girls offer you?

1) They put more effort at getting all dolled up for you.  A nice dress, sexy lingerie, a little lipstick and mascara,, etc.  You are less likely to see a girl just wearing a bikini and ready to strip naked right off the bat;

2) More luxurious hotel accommodations.  Some are OK with seeing girls at the Motel 6 or Comfort Inn right off the Beltway.  That's not me.  I like seeing a lady at a luxurious boutique hotel downtown, where I am fucking a woman in a nicely appointed room with matching bedspread and covers.  If the hotel room costs more, you can expect her rates to go up.

3) Higher odds of a genuine GFE experience.  Yes, I understand that some cheaper providers offer a GFE session.  But it is uncommon.  When you see a $300 girl, you are likely to get a suck and fuck, but without much real passion.  A $500 lady is likely to understand you are not just paying for the sex, but the overall experience.

Just my thoughts on why some ladies can charge higher rates and continue to attract clients on a regular basis.  If they were overpriced and failed to deliver, gents, they would quickly see their market disappear.

splunge 72 Reviews 997 reads
posted
7 / 31

Evidently there are enough guys willing to pay that price to make it worth their while to visit DC.

Or maybe this is how they're using the leftover stimulus money.

John_Boehner 824 reads
posted
8 / 31
igtddb 8 Reviews 599 reads
posted
9 / 31

I am interested in recommendations anyone might have on high end and/or UTR providers.  For example, Nordic Juliette is on my wish list.  But I would like to hear about others as this is the path I would like to pursue.

vamikey 74 Reviews 837 reads
posted
10 / 31

you can either keep seeing ladies in the 250-300 range, or you can play half as often and see the higher priced ladies, your choice.  And, just out of curiosity, I did a quick review search for Wash. DC providers, price range 250-300, average ratings 7.0-9.9, and got over 500 matches.  So there are plenty of satisfactory providers out there in your price range.  Some of the visiting ladies in the higher price ranges are pretty special and can command those prices.  If you want a Ferrari, don't expect to find one on a Honda Accord budget!

WilliamJeffersonClinton 492 reads
posted
11 / 31

This is a crew that spends big -

Posted By: EasyCompany
What is it with the influx of visitors at 4.0-8.0 ?

Gonna be riding the bench

mrpanda 4 Reviews 774 reads
posted
12 / 31
igtddb 8 Reviews 1097 reads
posted
13 / 31

You may be right, DB911, and of course I have had incredible experiences with people charging less.
Nonetheless, I would like to find out for myself.  One of the best experiences I have ever had was with someone who charged in the over $400 bracket.  I would duplicate that anytime!

Posted By: db911
I have seen them from 200 to 1000.  Not worth it above 400.  

Total ripoff.  There is NOTHING they do that is worth the price difference.  

Exclusive?  Give me a break.  How is a provider exclusive??? Whoever has $ can do her.  

Better looking?  Just as random in the looks department as 300-400 range.

Better service?  Read the reviews, not always better service, not always what you are expecting.  

Be very very careful if you choose to go over 400.  There is no compelling reason to spend that premium unless that ONE particular woman really turns you on.

Disclaimer for the White Knights -- yeh, yeh, yeh, a woman can charge whatever she wants, set her own price and let the market decide.  I am not advocating that any one woman set her price at any particular level.  I am merely saying to you boys in the hobby that I have been there got the t-shirt and not gonna get another. lol

CharlieFuckingSheen 720 reads
posted
14 / 31
EasyCompany 725 reads
posted
15 / 31

...but it just seems as though several infrequently  visiting ladies have posted recently, at rather high rates.
In post tax dollars, 5.0 equates to appx. 7-7.5 earned income.
Who among us can afford it on a recurring basis?

tomcat0360 105 Reviews 899 reads
posted
16 / 31

I recently met these beauties: Katherine Avery, Valerie International and Emma Dupree. I have to say they provide the most bang for my bucks. I've also spent over 500 on Brenda Boobies, Victoria Jolie and my UTR provider. They were great too, but like db said, once you go above 400, you're paying a premium for someone whe really turns you on with her looks or her services or both.

db911 34 Reviews 702 reads
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18 / 31
db911 34 Reviews 602 reads
posted
19 / 31

#1) more effort in makeup and clothes?  okay, if you need that illusion.

#2) More luxurious hotel?  I would say sometimes, but not always true.  If it is worth it to you then great.

#3) Higher odds of GFE?  no, not true.  odds are the same when you read reviews first.  at any price you will see only 100% GFE if you only see 100% gfe reviewed girls. lol

What you are looking for seems to be refinement, luxury, white glove service and the illusion of exclusivity.  In all of that you are probably more inclined to find it in the high $ range as those are the traits of the marketing/illusion/propaganda of the high $ ladies.  

If you believe what you "see" and it is what you want to "see" and then you "see" it -- wow, you win!!!  So what if part of the sell is the cost!?!?

Ralph Lauren, Tiffany's, Ritz-Carlton, Bentley, Cartier, etc. couldn't exist without you.

ColdLuke 588 reads
posted
20 / 31

To each his own.......

"Some cheaper providers" ,  "When you see a $300 girl, you are likely to get a suck and fuck, but without much real passion"

Your seeing the wrong women, I've had women send me home weak in the knee's and wobbling at rates of $200 to $300 per hour.  I've been hobbying over 20 years and as long as your not an arrogant prick and treat a woman well, the benefits come rolling your way.

The room doesn't make the woman - it may well affect the hourly rate.  Some of my best experiences have come at extended stay hotels.

dalliance6969 86 Reviews 1079 reads
posted
21 / 31

I agree completely with DB.  The extra price rarely comes with better looks or service.  Maybe it comes with some exclusivity but that has no value to me.

Posted By: slm1996
We are all entitled to our own opinions, and if he is happy with $250 to $400 girls, more power to him.  I typically see escorts who charge between $450 and $500 an hour, and have gone up to $600 -- which BTW was my all time favorite experience with an escort.  

So what do the pricier girls offer you?

1) They put more effort at getting all dolled up for you.  A nice dress, sexy lingerie, a little lipstick and mascara,, etc.  You are less likely to see a girl just wearing a bikini and ready to strip naked right off the bat;

2) More luxurious hotel accommodations.  Some are OK with seeing girls at the Motel 6 or Comfort Inn right off the Beltway.  That's not me.  I like seeing a lady at a luxurious boutique hotel downtown, where I am fucking a woman in a nicely appointed room with matching bedspread and covers.  If the hotel room costs more, you can expect her rates to go up.

3) Higher odds of a genuine GFE experience.  Yes, I understand that some cheaper providers offer a GFE session.  But it is uncommon.  When you see a $300 girl, you are likely to get a suck and fuck, but without much real passion.  A $500 lady is likely to understand you are not just paying for the sex, but the overall experience.

Just my thoughts on why some ladies can charge higher rates and continue to attract clients on a regular basis.  If they were overpriced and failed to deliver, gents, they would quickly see their market disappear.

og192 827 reads
posted
22 / 31

Good points, I agree and I'd like to add that the $250 - $400 I see don't stay in cheap hotels and bring way more to the table than a suck & fuck. I've had great times with more expensive ladies as well but when it comes down to it the didn't do anything more than my regular ladies.
Bottom line, do whatever floats your boat. Isn't that what it's all about?
Just my .02.

vamikey 74 Reviews 1007 reads
posted
23 / 31

a similitude from the automotive world.
A friend of mine who knew I was a car guy asked me if a Porsche Carrera 3 was really worth over $ 100K; after a little thought, I answered him like this:
It may or may not be worth it to you, but if you decide you want one, that's what they cost.
It's the same with any specific provider, whatever the price, if you decide you want her, that's what it costs!

gibson69 518 reads
posted
24 / 31

There are incredibly hot women for 3-4 range.  Most would agree, if your in NYC rates are higher as costs and income are generally higher.  Someone said the 600 girl puts more time into the visit.  Really, so they don't have a guy banging them 20 minutes after you're gone?   That's enough time to fix their mascara.  Women set their price and men decide, that's it.  I'm sure there are women who are exceptional and worth every penny, but like most things in marketing, if you make your product look and seem exclusive you can charge more for it.  If you move up to the $1000 club they even validate.

vamikey 74 Reviews 752 reads
posted
25 / 31

not remember what my friend actually said.  There used to be a Carrera 3, there's currently a Carrera 4 and 4S, as well as a GT3.

OldTraveler 40 Reviews 564 reads
posted
26 / 31

Lots of people seem to toss objections at a business plan they do not agree with rather than just accept that there are other approaches that work for different people.

400+, or 600+, or 1000+ ladies either like to advertise but not actually see anyone, OR they have a level of activity that fits their needs.  If a lady can get the number of clients she wants at a high price, why would she lower her price?  Especially those who only want to work a small number of hours or days.

Personally my budget does not allow me to play in the 600+ kind of pool, though I have been fortunate enough to see a couple of those ladies because of unusual circumstances.  I will say both were exceedingly lovely people and among the best dates I have ever had.

But my ATF was at the other end of the cost spectrum, about 250/hr.  She was every bit as elegant, dresses impeccably, and was always a perfect companion for me whether in private, at a high end restaurant, or the opera on opening night.  I do not know what kind of hotels she would use because I would either host her at mine or we would spend the time at her condo, but I know it would never be a low end place.  And contrary to some of the statements above, no, she was not with another guy 20 minutes after I left.  She was one-guy-a-night and maybe tw2 a week, often less.  She had a complex, full life outside this business.

I think the reasons different ladies charge different amounts is much more complicated that many make it out to be, often not really clear to the ladies themselves.  I talked often with my ATF about what she charged (I know she could ask substantially more) and she could not really explain why she settled in on that number.  That was where she started and inertia took over from there.  In her case there was empirical evidence she could charge much more and get it because she also had a small number of clients who did pay her MUCH more.  They only difference was they went to the head of the request line and all her other regulars knew that.  The service they received was the same.

One reason she charged them more--probably the major reason, was the men in question wanted to believe they were getting something more exclusive.  If a lady is listed at 1000+ for example, then any guy who sees that is likely to believe she has few other clients (unless she's in the film star kind of category).

I do think the odds of a truly bad experience go down as the price goes up, but I don't believe the best 1000+ ladies are better than the best 400+, and sometimes no better than the best 250+ ladies.  Sometimes clients in all businesses pay more because that act itself strokes their own egos, and if they can aford that, so be it.  I do wish they would not make assumptions out of ignorance about ladies they have not seen and do not know.

I short I will disagree with both slm1996 and db911.  I think they both oversimplify a complicated topic.

OldTraveler 40 Reviews 640 reads
posted
27 / 31

To each his own--exactly.

And so much of how the evening goes depends upon how the man acts.  Much more so than the price.

darkwing 16 Reviews 443 reads
posted
28 / 31

... it is not necessarily about if the dollar/value is there but just the fact that the client can afford it in the first place. It's more about the client than the lady. "Look at me I'm rich". It's like that guy in the commercials with the mini pet giraffe - "No pain, no pain..."

showboy123 22 Reviews 477 reads
posted
29 / 31

Hey, remember Elliott Spitzer thought he was too good for the local talent. He brought his girl in from New York. Typical New Yorker! Ha!

AlfredReader 17 Reviews 1276 reads
posted
30 / 31

Agree, it's more a statement about the guy involved.  Reading O_T's post I got the impression he agrees too.

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