Life410:

What's you're real objective here?

 Is this really about us having an HONEST discussion or about you having your negative orientation validated no matter what ?

You asked a question, which any reasonably experienced hobbyist and provider knows there is no way we can't publicly comment specifically; as to why your assumptions are fueled by your lack on knowledge.    

When my reply didn't validate your fears, lets be clear, you ARE projecting your fear, you CHANGED the CONTEXT of the conversation. Respectfully, that is dishonest it smacks of 'this is about validation, being right at all costs not discussion'.

Had you introduced or been honest from the beginning with  your true feelings about the NSA, your belief there is no rule of law and collapse of the system, my answer and discussion would have been different.

So now let me deal with your change of the rules.

We're not NSA jurisdiction and they don't care what we do as long as we are not doing with enemies of the United States.  As for them  violating our 4th amendment rights?  

Well that is well documented including recent findings by the FISA court. as a matter of fact here:  
http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/October 2011 Bates Opinion and Order Part 1.pdf ( http://goo.gl/RAr3uY ) read the report yourself.  
Otherwise summery is here:  http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57599579/nsa-gathered-thousands-of-americans-emails-fisa-court-records-show/  

So  you are right in a way, too bad it doesn't REASONABLY apply to us.

I respect your point of view.  The District Attorney is not in the business of publicizing when a provider et al kicks their ass in court because they did the smart thing and went to a jury trial. It does happen however think about this, if the game is to instill fear, why would they publicize when they lose? Have you not noticed they publicize arrests, however have you not noticed they don't mention how many of those cases get dropped? Yes we disagree, the rule of law is in affect, it's just under assault right now. Ahh no, it's called they are NOT agencies, they are brothels in a fixed location ( often an apartment complex) and are extremely paranoid.  Let's be clear Date Check is not screening it's vouching. Provider references is a flawed concept which has been proven over in over.  The people you're referring to are doing what THEY KNOW and it appears to me  not willing to learn better.  

Why do I say that?  

Easy, their actions. They've taken the path of least resistance. This is not the hunter being smarter or better.  If anything it's the  fruit has has been hanging lower.

Actually, they are it's called money laundering charges. Three high profile in case examples would be Miami companions, Aphrodite companions and Denver Players.   I will concede if we are talking at the vice cop level there is a zone of interpretation as to the limits of probable cause. However, there is also an  offset by how stupid you are as in STFU and how good your lawyer or law firm is.  

Now we agree, many of those cases are made because the individual did not comprehend the following:

"ANYTHING you say can and will be used against you.." and they tried to talk themselves out of it and made the officers case for them. At which point a bad or weak bust now is solid because you did their work  for them.

My law professor had a saying "enough circumstantial evidence will get you the chair." Later in life I added " true, and that's what the science of jury selection and reasonable doubt is for !"  

Lastly,  the whole concept of LE creating false identities to get over screening is a possibility and has happened in multiple jurisdictions.  However, we also must keep it in proper perspective.  If the FBI decides they are coming for you, there is nothing you can do, you're done, it's over.  They create identities that get past the Mob, so they are the standard. Now if we are talking about a state county, then the realities of budget and how much bang for the fiscal buck can we get come into play in their decision making.  In the past many LE organizations have been called on the carpet for spending too much money on one escort target. Whereas 20 busts for the same amount of money shows you're doing "something."

Perception in Politics is reality and make no mistake Law Enforcement is part of the political landscape.  

It's just the way it is from my prospective.

Respectfully,

 
Lee Dreams
Edamus, bibamus, gaudeamu  

-edited for typo-

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