Lately I have been getting fairly intrusive verification requests (ID, Credit card pic with numbers covered, work website, LinkedIn, business card, etc.) Are folks actually sending this kind of info to providers?

There’s wife’s logging into p411 acts and outing providers on Twitter, incall locations, etc.

Eden Model a Private View....They not interested in references or P411, lol. They want that kinda intrusive stuff too.  

As a lady who accepts references and p411 verification With recent okays, my main issue is when men who will only verify via references want a last minute appointment (assuming they aren't on p411).  

If someone wants a last minute appointment with an independent, asking them for more information, especially real world info, is not unreasonable at all.  

There is a horrific story about a young woman murdered in Wall street NYC and had her body dumped in NJ in a barrel.  Reading those stories gives me chills and justifies screening information.  

I saw that post. happened few days ago. ):

Yeah but she apparently had all kinds of issues with drugs, etc. The person of interest in her murder is a known gang member who met her when she got out of a cab at the Wall Street location and it looks like they knew each other. The investigation is ongoing but I'd be willing to bet it wasn't a client.

She had no visible signs of injury on her body. The suspicion here is that she was doing drugs with her gangster pal and OD'd. Instead of calling 911, he disposed of her corpse.

That seems like a likely scenario. It'll probably take a few weeks to get the toxicology test results and by that time who knows if the media will even be interested anymore.

Each provider has to screen in a way that makes her feel comfortable. Period. If you do not want to send the information she requires for her to feel safe to see you, then bow out. It's that simple. Move on to another provider whose screening you accept.

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Hey guys! Sorry, trust me, I know the screening process can be daunting. But there is so much client scamming going on right now that girls are on high alert. I have personally experienced fake id's, fake linkedin etc. I just want to know that I'm going to be safe. I recently moved into a space that would allow for an experience not in a hotel. I'm not knocking hotels. I just feel this offers a more laid back atmosphere for realistic gfe, supplies for kinks etc. I was so I can provide a better experience for you.  
I just thought of this as a possible solution, OF. The creator account process is a secure site. Check into it. Making content not a requirement, just to use their site as a screening tool. I know if you have an account, OF has your identity if something happens to me. Which is the point. I don't see your info. And you also know they have my info if anything happens to you. Its sort like a screening tool for you too if you think about it. Thoughts?

I personally dont trust any 3rd party websites for screening. You know how many fake profiles are on p411, linkendln, with fake IDS, fake VOIP numbers, fake references. This idea of using "OF as screening" is a recipe for a disaster... The acct process is NOT a secure site. How we can put our lives, our safety into 3rd party websites that we dont know how they use and process their information? I would not put my life in danger and trust some 3rd party for them to come back and say "yeah hes fine" LOL

They just don't need that much information, when I don't even know their real names.  They certainly have every right to ask whatever they want, include fees, credit cards, driver's license ...etc.  But, we have every right to move on also.  I don't remember this level of ask in the past.  

I understand providers want and need to be safe. So do mongers. This is an area where lots of folks work for the feds, hold public office or support those who do, or handle sensitive information requiring some level of security clearance. And, of course, many mongers are married or have SO's.

Best cautionary post I've read here in a while.  A local agency wanted me to post a photo of myself holding up my driver's license when I tried to apply as a new client. My membership with P411 with a few OKs didn't mean a hill of beans. I took a year off the hobby and didn't have recent references. That was enough for the agency to request the mug shot. I moved on to the next provider willing to see me, and she did.

I've seen screening getting tighter for some time now. What always makes me chuckle is the ladies who advertise on P411, but won't take being verified there with several okays as screening. Instead, insisting on LinkedIn, DL, etc. I simply move on. I understand providers believe this is for their safety, it just seems like the mongers safety isn't important. Oh well!

I had a provider with zero reviews and no available history except some stuff on twitter, agree to meet me, so I took a shower and drove over there.  When I arrived she suddenly asked me to send her a photo of my ID - which I will not do. When I suggested maybe she tell prospective clients in advance that she will want to see their driver's license, she told me that if she did that, clients would have time to 'fake' the photo of their ID and otherwise send her phony info.

The driver's license mug shot. Gotta luv it.

Unfortunately it seems like there are many desperate johns out here that will hold up a mug shot to get verified for small amount of fun. That’s how the agency and providers get away with it. Be smart Andy don’t compromise you privacy for this but up to you

and a very equitable approach.  

Do you really believe they destroy the information after they meet you?  Think McFly.  

When I read this I am reminded of those people who think they are constantly being stalked by the government...Your info is not that interesting to us. Majority of the time I ask for those things just to see what their reaction is, because if it is poor that usually is a red flag that this person has something to hide and they are not someone I wish to be around.  

Ok , but what if you get hacked or an ex decides to extract some vengeance from you and your clients and has access to  the screening info.   Happens more than you think.  I had an incident where a providers' bf had access to her phone and all the accompanying screening info.  He called me (and probably others) and threatened physical and financial harm.  So, when you share all your critical personal info with me I will share it with you.  We are not a bunch of paranoid lunatics when we complain about divulging info that once disclosed can cause much grief.   Finally, most of the horror stories I hear from providers that have lax screening procedures is not new clients but existing and well-established clients that turn into stalkers.  These folks have managed to obtain lots of personal info and become a providers' nightmare.

Do you keep the information even after a positive meeting?

After seeing this, I don't think I will.

I just had a very bad experience with a new client last night, as well as my first client ever, so personally in my experience I do find that new clients can push boundaries and put me in bad situations but again I am a NEW provider and definitely am getting limits tested. Not by majority of clients luckily but there were those two and that has been enough to make me take screening processes seriously. Most people I see have been really kind, and some have even sent that screening info within their first message which makes booking much easier on my end. These usually are younger men too, so maybe it is a newer trend?

Be careful out there gentleman one of the reasons I would never give out personal private information with pictures or selfies, license ID passport social links etc etc  
Is because lots of this providers will intimidate you blackmail you it’s not right and insane  
They but not only independent providers ask for this even agency and that’s worse case, all your personal info is out there easy to get and be harassed blackmailed etc  
But how about the girl you meeting we don’t even know their real names and most of them lie about their age as well, and then they show all this professional photoshopped pictures that modifies a lot of the physical body….
One of the reasons I keep going to my regulars and sometimes use them as references when they accept referrals if not then I just move on and not even bother  
Have fun & be safe

The only reason providers keep asking for personal information is because some of you keep giving it to them.  

Couldn’t have said it better

Just applied for screening at elitemodels.es, but they wanted extortion level verification.  I'm down to provide a selfie and a pic of my license, but only with most of the PII covered over.  They want a selfie holding a piece of paper reading "hello amy" and the day's date, and an ID with nothing covered up, so my DLN home address ect ect..  Thats way too much for me.

I strongly suggest that you do NOT comply with such requests.  They're completely unnecessary and only put you at risk of blackmail.  

I just got screened with them last month, and I didn’t have to provide as much as that.  

All it takes is a name and DOB to get ALL of the info on your license anyway.

well, their contact page asks for a selfish and ID, but yeah I didnt have any usable references (the girl I get massages from wont give references) so they later asked for the selfish with a written hello to amy.

how so?

Agreed. Again, the only reason they keep asking for such things is because guys keep giving it to them. They’re a business, so If they stop making money due to lack of bookings they’ll change their requirements.  

That’s definitely true, I I would never do that  
They will blackmail you scamm you and plus how about if this agencies or independent providers get hacked with all your personal information  
Not only dangerous for us gentleman but dangerous for them because at one point someone will get pissed with their blackmail and all that  

anytime a provider receives a pre-screening or appointment request, P411 has a disclaimer stating, "We encourage everyone to do as much *additional screening as they feel is necessary*, to keep themselves safe."  

P411 does says that but P411 also tells the guys to cover up the parts of your id that are not part of your P411 identification number. They tell the client to temporarily cover up the unnecessary  parts of their identification with tape.

I wouldn’t do the same like yours. ES screened me a couple of years ago through P411 and a selfie.

I have never been asked for ID by any P411 provider.

And the independents probably disregard a lot of the info, but don't think for one second agencies like Moon Palace or JJ Clubs don't file your info. Be a gentleman with the ladies, but yes sir, hold that line.

You really know how to make men want to see you. If you weren’t such a narcissist, you’d know better than to state something like this that doesn’t need to be stated.