Okay, I think this is becoming too much on TER, and providers getting tired already because why would a client you don’t meet, write a review on your profile?  

I have no idea who this person is, we didn't have any confirmed appointment either and he was able to write a review on my profile.  

Any sensible person will know that is a made-up story.  

Why would someone just wake up and start writing negative reviews on providers' profiles without meeting them? This is so bad. If I get to know his email or phone number, I can provide a copy of our conversation IF we've talked before.

Sorry this happened to you. Guys have been known to write fake reviews for the free VIP days, but most of the fakes I've seen are good to great.  

 
Have you reached out to TER admin? Or has your agency?

Yeah I did that, no response yet.

... I like to think most members will look at the review history of outliers (both overly positive or negative) to see if they're believable. In his case, 7 reviews in 12 years, all negative. I don't know how it's even possible to have ALL bad experiences unless he just doesn't write reviews for the good times.

Personally, I'd disregard his review if you or your agency/booker had a track record. Unfortunately, there isn't much to evaluate. Best thing you can do is encourage reviews from clients, provide great service, & bury the negative review in good ones. I'd suggest the same for the 2 other listed providers w/ your booker (they have none but it would help you if they did). Good providers get found eventually and word will spread fast.

My spidey sense is buzzing on this “provider” and it seems like this post is an attempt to preempt a legit review by Beg2differ. The website looks questionable, never heard of the operation, the models look TGTBT, the two other reviews of the provider look fraudulent, and more importantly a Google image search of some of the  pics on the site turns up photos from other websites. To me no reason to give this poster the benefit of the doubt.

Lol you're hilarious  
Well, TER said they sent him a message so I have nothing to say to you

The thing about fake reviews is that they can go both ways. A fake provider can procure fake reviews to appear legitimate. Even easier, “providers” can misappropriate photos of another person off of the internet and try to pass the photos off as themselves. Which is why my gut is telling me the photos of “you” on your website, that are also photos of a Russian adult entertainer, are not legit.

So not all of his experiences were negative. Why lie?

1. The only two other reviews are clearly written by the same person even though its two different accounts.

2. This provider is the only review either of those accounts have.

3. These are new accounts. In case people don't know every user on ter has a user ID, not just providers.  

These two accounts  

BillyDoutt and toddRuSs

(do you guys see the similarities in these names? I do)  

Have id's of 3820847 and 3821493, respectively... meaning these accounts were created recently AND they were created very closely to each other

Finally, these two accounts use very similar language, grammar constructs and literary devices.

 
That's just off the reviewers...  

 
Then it gets worse.  

There is no web history of the numbe or the agency. Sure new agencies spring up all the time. And yet numbers not advertised. Pics are reportedly stolen. There isn't a single trustable reviewer with a good review besides the person whom Lila is talking about.  

 

Tl;Dr - I would never see this provider or agency and would advice anyone to NOT see anyone there until there's confirmation that what they advertise is what they indeed offer.  

-- Modified on 9/24/2024 4:32:26 PM

-- Modified on 9/24/2024 6:20:56 PM

Clearly a fake agency using fake reviews, and trying to preempt a real critical review.
One look at the "agency's" POLICY statement that indicates a 40% deposit is required gives away the game.
They want 200 up front, so you can be scammed.
Yet another reason to NEVER GIVE A DEPOSIT. period.

A 6 in looks is hardly a good assessment. The 8 is good. How I might describe the review might well depend a bit on context. But why pick on the comment and claim the guy is lying? After all, the OP was about a review of a session that is claimed to never have occurred. A fake review is fake regardless of how it is classified as good or bad, and if fake the scores are also fake and meaningless.  The respons of ignore it and not worry about a reviewer that seems to be a hard grader, work hard on giving good service and get more reviews and no one will care about the older review. That is good advice.

 
Should I start saying you're lying when you claim the accounts are recent when it seems one has been around at least 12 years?

I'm not sure what you don't get, Jensen. A six is an above average score according to TER scoring guidelines.  

And an eight is second highest grade you can give for service provided by there's no greek or threesome.

If there's some unwritten rule according to which a six or an eight are bad scores, you can have your choice of a crevice to stick that unwritten rule in.  

A six and eight is a damn solid review and if you read his 6/8 review it is clear that it is a good review.  

 

 
"Should I start saying you're lying when you claim the accounts are recent when it seems one has been around at least 12 years?"

No, because if you actually really read my comment is that I talk about two OTHER accounts which each are very recent accounts. I even spelled out what the accounts were and their id's. Lol. Now tell me which account is 12 years old?  Now tell me what did I lie about. You shouldn't say that I'm lying just because you failed to read my post. I'm saying the two "good reviews" the op has are fake, and the one she's complaining about is actually trustable.  

 
You should know at this point I know how ter works. I know how ids are generated,  I can estimate very accurately when any account was created. Also even if someone uses an alias they're still using the same underlying user ID.

You should know at this point I know how ter works. I know how ids are generated,  I can estimate very accurately when any account was created. Also even if someone uses an alias they're still using the same underlying user ID.

 
So you're saying there are not 12 years of history for 7 reviews?

 
I'm not discussing the whole  side thread that was raised about the provider and review. I'm as skeptical as everyone but that was not what the OP was about and not what the guy monger you're attacking was talking about.  

 
Perhaps for you 6 is an okay review. I would never see a provider that I would rate a 6 if I knew that in advance. So a review with a 6 score is not definitionally a good review. You might be fine with it. Many here would not. You like to tell others not to speack for everyone else. So stop doing that your self.

[Edit -- I don't think one can apply the term "negative" to numbers in the rating system. Perhaps he was talking about the tone and text of the review rather than the pure numbers given. If so your 6 isn't negative refutation doen't work.]

 
So please address the question I ask rather than making claims abou how you've hacked TER and understand it backend structures. And I don't believe you KNOW how the account IDs work (unless you have hacked the system and looking into that code/process) but do think you believe you've gather some information and might have an educated guess but that is not knowledge. It's a guess. So, is the account the made the 7 reviews that Roses was talking about 12 years old or not? Is you're claim he is lying about that or that 12 years is considered recent?

-- Modified on 9/25/2024 4:42:33 PM

I would say the average looks score here at TER probably lies between 7 and 8. The nature of this industry weeds out 5 and below providers (natural selection).  That’s why you see significantly fewer reviews of 5 and below, hence the average provider ranking being much closer to 7 than 5.

" So you're saying there are not 12 years of history for 7 reviews?"

no, I never said this. Why are you attributing something Ive never said to me ?

"Perhaps for you 6 is an okay review. I would never see a provider that I would rate a 6 if I knew that in advance. So a review with a 6 score is not definitionally a good review. You might be fine with it. Many here would not. You like to tell others not to speack for everyone else. So stop doing that your self."

a 6/8 review is not negative according to TER scoring guidelines.  I dont speak for anyone else besides myself - hence me mentioning scoring guidelines in my post, something you clearly seemed to miss while reading. a 6/8 review is not negative according to TER scoring system - and TER scoring systems hasnt changed in ages.

a six in looks is considered "nice". 8 in performance is second highest grade, and Im already repeating myself. so no, according to grading of TER scoring system, a 6/8 review is nowhere near a negative review or experience. so thats the lie.

 

"So please address the question I ask rather than making claims abou how you've hacked TER and understand it backend structures. And I don't believe you KNOW how the account IDs work (unless you have hacked the system and looking into that code/process) but do think you believe you've gather some information and might have an educated guess but that is not knowledge. It's a guess. So, is the account the made the 7 reviews that Roses was talking about 12 years old or not? Is you're claim he is lying about that or that 12 years is considered recent? "

 
I did address the question. The only place I mentioned "recent" accounts was in "the whole  side thread ". Those accounts I called out by name.  

 
seems youre utterly confused by what I posted. its ok. let me answer the questions

", is the account the made the 7 reviews that Roses was talking about 12 years old or not? "  

yes, actually Id say more than that. beg2differ (the guy the op was talking about) is an alias so I wont out his actual id (because if you know an alias id you know who the alias belongs to), but lets say its in 50000s. its an old account. his account is older than bigp's account, to give you a perspective.  

The recent accounts I talked about were in that side thread.

 
"Is you're claim he is lying about that or that 12 years is considered recent? "

no, my claim was rose was lying about all of his experiences being negative where a 6/8 review beg2differ posted was not negative and was in fact, positive.

I forget that some people take everything literally and lose the narrative. Let's say a 6/8 is not "negative." So, that leaves the other 6 of 7.  Roughly 86% is not 100%, so I'll give you that. I'm 86% honest and 14% liar. I'll take that.  

The point was, literally, that I take certain reviews with a grain of salt. I also don't take the OP very seriously because they're so obviously fake, but I like to see how much effort they'll put into it with a little encouragement. It's like watching a gerbil on a wheel with a block of cheese on the other side. But now I've had to spell it out and you've ruined all my fun. Booo.

There were only two reviews when I looked intitiall and, incorrectly, assumed the two you mentioned were the original two. I get it now.

No hard feelings I hope

The good reviews are from people who only had reviewed one provider, which is you. I have my doubts, good luck

Not towards you. Public embarrassment is hardly a good feeling, lol.

FYI, I was contacted by TER to provide information to support my review.  Which I did to the best of my ability.

I did not plan on responding to this posting, but given the varied comments, I thought I would enlighten the group.

1)  Alias - yes, this is a 12 year old alias for my normal account.  While I occasionally post less than stellar reviews to my normal account, I reserve this alias for posting most of my bad reviews.  It keeps my normal account that is over 20 years old on a more positive note - that it why its called "Beg 2 Differ" as in I beg to differ with you on how well I enjoyed our encounter.
2)  White Knights - had a few immediately jump in, as they often do, supporting the lady.  I will not comment on that to say anything other than the following:
     a.  The website for this "provider" is now GONE
     b.  There has been another negative review - take it for what you will
     c.   Anyone who looked at the other two reviews could immediately see that they had similar writing styles
     d.  The photos were obviously fake (thank you to the person who found pics on a Russian porn site) and I even commented it wasn't the lady in the picture.
3)  My guess is that they were going to setup a nice little fraud ring with a handful of fake/real reviews by having one or two suckers (like me) actually see someone purporting to be the person on the website.  The fact that I gave an honest review probably threw a huge monkey wrench in their plans.

In closing, thank you to the folks who, like me, questioned the veracity of the claims as well as the authenticity of the other two positive reviews.

So, my personal opinion on reviews in general:

1. Scammed or robbed or worse - you should definitely post. These typically happen for lesser known providers or agencies. Stay safe out there. Sometimes losing some cash is just part of this game. Walk away and live to tell the tale.
2. Cancellations or misunderstandings - these happen and it goes with the business. Work these out with the provider OFFLINE. These never seem to be solved through gossipy posts on this site. If you cannot work something out with the provider, then just move on and see someone else. In the long run, if this becomes a pattern or habit, the provider will get caught.
3. Less than stellar reviews - There was a time on this site when you could post reviews about experiences that were not satisfactory. That time has passed. There is really nothing to be gained by posting a less than stellar experience. Again, just move on. We all have bad days (providers and hobbiests). Not everyone is for everyone. I once posted a review many years ago about a less than satisfactory review, and the pushback by her "fans", other providers and the like just wasn't worth it. Lesson learned...'nuff said.
4. Fake reviews - If you are willing to post something that was completely fabricated, then your an asshole and should seek therapy. This goes for both providers and hobbyists.
5. Possibly Unpopular opinion - I am not a fan of detailed reviews. Here's what i want to know: were services delivered? Did everything happen as agreed? Was the photo a fair representation of the provider? I'll go back and read old hustler magazine stories if I want details. (smile)

Use backchannel convo's if you have to, but let's be adults about this. Remember that most of the providers are doing this to make money, (no judgement from me, obviously).

Just my .02

I've looked for my TER ID and can't find it. Figured it would be under account info.  

Where is it hiding?

Hmm, I don't agree with 3. I think people can and do (this thread includes one) post less than stellar reviews. Without VIP and cannot do a quick search to see how many recent 5 and below reviews have been posted (though personally I would say a 6 is far from stellar too).

 
I don't think just stating your experience and how you're rating it, in a nuetral and objective way, exposes anyone to any problems. If the provider or agency want's to cut you off so what, was the person planning on a repeat? And it's helpful to others that have the reviewers tastes and priorties. It think what gets people in trouble is the biased/emotionally charged reviews that come across, and probably are, nonobjective. Those are not really helpful to anyone.

 
While I don't really use reviews myself these days some details are important. I don't need the narative about the reviewers sexual prowess. But sometimes I think reviews that simply say "will repeat" or "won't repeat" would be better than a lot of what is submitted. LOL

I concur.  

 
Reading detailed reviews is what led me to try this business out for myself. Nowadays, blow-by-blow details are pretty unimportant to me.

". If you cannot work something out with the provider, then just move on and see someone else. In the long run, if this becomes a pattern or habit, the provider will get caught."

 
This is problematic. What you're saying in essence is don't say anything and depend on someone else saying it if it's a pattern. This is actually a contradiction because if no one says anything like you suggest how will the seller be caught? Even in the long run? It will take someone to not follow your  

 
In other words, you're just offloading the burden to say something publicly onto some other customer. In the meantime until one brave customer says something other customers might have the same damn issue.

 
"I had bad experience but I won't be the one to say it in order to avoid the push back" seems to me the main theme here you're echoing and it's troubling at the very least.  

 
". I once posted a review many years ago about a less than satisfactory review, and the pushback by her "fans", other providers and the like just wasn't worth it. Lesson learned...'nuff said."

 
Even bigger problem here. This is what many people (they know who they are not gonna call them out unless they want a shout out) who say no we don't need more honest negative reviews we need more honest reviews, don't sem to get. Writing a negative review puts you at risk of retaliation. Many agencies and providers retaliate for honest negative reviews.  
As such, people such as yourself choose to not put up negative truthful reviews but have no issues posting positive ones.  

 
And why is this?  

It's because the sellers (and not just this hobby lately) somehow think that their reviews belong to them and view them as a kind of a reputation score and hence view any negative review as an assassination on their pockets.  

 
And this thought needs to be dead and buried. The reviews are done by consumers for consumers. As long as the review is honest, it represents your opinion on the experience. That's all reviews are. The reviews were never for the reviewed business.  NEVER. That's not their purpose. That the sellers adapted the review as a kind of a "social credit score" is their fucking problem. They want to profit off something that was always meant to represent a customers platform.  

 
And negative reviews don't kill companies/sevrices/products. Bad companies/services/products ruin companies/services/products.  

 
This pushback against negative reviews or any criticism is what people refer to as "toxic positivity" nowadays.

This is why I have never given and will never give any of my personal info to ANY provider. They won't ever have leverage against me. And I will say what I think all the time without the need to appease or use euphemism. I will tell the truth publicly and my review is my experience and it won't be able to be bought or pleaded with.  

 

But I get that it's much easier to just offload the burden onto the next customer and just not write negative review being scared of pushback. But what this does is devalue teh fuck out of reviews.