What's up with all the 600 an hour escorts? People that I saw a couple years back at 250 now asking 500 -600 an hour? A few I didn't repeat at 250.....WTF....
You cant book any worthwhile gfe provider for under 4 now. And most are 6- 8 for the hour. Worst part is that BP level girls are hiding in the mix, asking the same rates as solid gfe providers.
Eros is flooded with them, and I think some have even managed to settle in to P411. Its a crap shoot out there now.
Okay, no that is NOT what I'm doing. I agree that prices are increasing. They are because either the providers can get enough clients paying that so, well, prices are going up and will likely stay up. OR, they are raising their prices because they are simply not getting the revenue they need even at lower prices so charging more may not be reducing their income much at all but when someone does show up at least they are paying off some of the bills and stocking the refrigerator. Not really sure what the reality is here as I'm a bit of a specialist niche player. However, in my world I do get some awesome sessions for 350 and under. Which does make me a happy camper.
The only talent I've seen to be had at 350 or under is K girls. You can get in with a couple of the Latina agencies at that rate....but they don't have the best talent on staff right now. At least not compared to the ladies that came to town 2 or 3 years ago...
16,17,18 were some really great times to play in NoVa. COVID sucks, but ive been seeing a decline since before that. Still some attractive women coming around, but they are robotic, and quite apparently just looking for the paycheck.
Well, I would add a young Thai girl (young meaning 30s) to the list as well. But I agree, when I've look around outside Asians it is either women I don't find all that interesting or prices that are beyond what I see any reason to pay.
So I will happily let others pick their pleasures and prices and enjoy the pleasures I have available.
Dude you are NOT lying!! 4 is the new 2 and 6 is the new 3. And those BP quality chicks are playing the game for all that it's worth. Faking like they are worth the extra $$$. The hobby is not what it used to be.
Many factors, many providers have retired lowering the supply of providers. Others are taking a break with the covid-19 crisis. I am just stick to a few that I see on a regular basis with half hour rates between 80 to 120. Sometimes I will go to 150/half hour. It adds up a lot if you are having many appointments per month. Some call me cheap. I call it stretching the hobby dollars.
There is a GFE provider that I see that does bbbj very attractive only $200/hr. She is not a local but out of town.
My problem isn't the one's that aren't 600, 700 or 1000. My problem are the one's that are that much, but don't do shit. A provider is free to post whatever rate she wants. Now if she's going to get business is her problem. Of course, there are going to be the simps that will shell out that much and all that girl needs is 1 or 2 of those simps a couple times a week and she's got her rent money for the month. If she's a full GFE/PSE, then whatever.
But there are quite a few girls in DC that are 500-600 and don't do anything. There's one particular provider whose No's are everything except CFS and CBJ. She's smart though and already contacted TER so no reviews can be posted of her. And there are quite a few providers that are like that. I will admit she's hot though, but everything else is bullshit. I wish there was a Wall of Shame that is searchable on Google. That way whenever someone looks up her phone number, email address, or Twitter handle, it shows up that she's PPS.
This is what FOSTA/SESTA did to the hobby. When TER went dark, the scammers realized that they could pull any disreputable bullshit they wanted, and guys had no recourse.
Eros is probably 80 percent or more bullshit providers, and some have even seemed to have infiltrated P411. I say that because I see several P411 listed ladies, with no reviews, and also have no activities listed on their P411 page. Thats why I have stuck to agencies as of late, because...while you may not get the best service, or the hottest women, at least there is a continuity of service...somewhat. I would love to find a good solid indie girl again, but I'm not about to get caught up in these scammers webs trying to find that hidden gem.
I'm only a couple months in to the scene and decided to go on Twitter along with TER. There are many beautiful ladies on there that prob offer incredie services, but their prices are insane. Fortunately, I found an experienced local provider to use for my normal needs. I constantly keep a look out for some bucket list sessions, but I'm not paying like these ladies want unless it's a real desire of mine. Unfortunately for us, apparently there are plenty of guys out there that will pay...
I've actually found that Tryst is pretty good for the DC area. I've maybe found 20-30 providers that are well-reviewed here and their rates are 400-500. I skipped over anyone that is over 500. But I'm sure if I researched the 600 girls, I would find quite a few legit one's too.
I mainly use Eros to check when pornstars are visiting since it's the main ad site they use.
There are also girls taking advantage of the COVID situation to offer less and charge more. No GFE, which means no DFK and maybe even no LFK. You're offering BBBJ, but no DFK? That makes no sense.
I'm sticking to agencies and known favorites, and least I'm not getting ripped off an additional $$$ or $$$$ that way.
I started out around 16 yrs ago with Syds Secrets, if anyone remembers his agency it was upscale offering small town girls. He had a knack for finding the good ones! I went independent with his blessing not too long after the incredible opportunities he gave me and I'm forever grateful to have been introduced to this hobby. I'm also lucky enough to have taken some time off and then come back stronger then ever! Hope to reconnect with more OG clients but always excited for you new guys that didn't get a chance to experience my energy. Trust me, I'm much better
I get that screening requirements and rates are 100% the prerogative of the lady, and we (the guys) can just pass on by when we think screening is over intrusive or pricing is unrealistic.
Having said the above, I agree rates are getting out of control, https://www.sunshineangels.co/misha
As an economist shouldn't you say something more like "they only charge too much for you and everyone else on the demand curve to the right of the P-Q point"?
But yeah, generally best to just move one without comment and if you need to comment, make it about yourself and not the other person -- maybe say "I would really be interested in seeing you if my marginal value of a $ was lower."
I'm on on TER often, but I came across this thread. I remember this "OG lady" Cate. I saw her with Syd, and when she went independent. She was always great, and very personable. Super sexy too. Good to hear you are doing well.
I saw this thread and had to post. It's been in my mind as of late so perfect timing. I have been around ter and the northeast hobby scene for almost 20 years. Man have things taken a turn. I agree with what everybody has said. The price increase is one thing but girls not offering gfe and charging $600+. I remember in ten years ago a great independent lady was $350-400. I won't say $500 was rare but.......I can remember splurging dropping $500hr and thinking I was crazy. Now the new norm is 6/700hr for independents. The worse part is they have no review presences anywhere. I see former agency girls that worked for $300hr charging $800hr. Former $400 independents charging $700. That's a huge increase, I get everyone deserves a raise but I know I can't afford it. I guess if they can get it and stay busy more power to them. My atf is $500hr and I have absolutely no problem spending that because her service is worth every penny.
Yeah, its the BP girls charging 4+ that gets me the most. For that level of service...it will never be worth more than 2 bills an hour...therefore never even a consideration for me. The few former TG girls ive seen coming back around, have gone from the 350 that TG got to 500 an hour now that they're indie... I loved Tessa, but im not sure I would drop 5 for even her! Its gotten really bad, and im sorry...but imo, the ladies wanting TER to burn to the ground, are the ones trying to deceive on their services, or trying to walk off with deposits, or other such dubious behavior.
I follow their rules, I never cancel, never short the envelope, and tip when its a spectacular time. All I ask is that I not be deceived.
Re: Couldn't pass this up. I'm repeating more with regulars. 600-1000 for nice pictures and no reviews.....I'll pass...
Similar. I'm a guy that trys to fly under the radar to a degree and am episodic. That being said its much more difficult today to weed through the non-legitimate high class providers vs. the elevated providers. Moreover, connecting with those providers is more difficult. Clearly both parties have expectations and given the inability to deliberately communicate those expectations, we use the $$ asked as the benchmark for said expectations. After a couple of let downs, I too am strictly sticking to some reliable regulars.
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