I doubt it. I can't recall ever seeing a provider drop her rates once they up them can you?
They only time I see a provider rate change is when they go to different cities and raise them or drop them for the area they go to.Wow - whats going on with DC rates all of the sudden. There is an influx of ladies in the $$$$, $$$$$, and $$$$$$ range! While I can pseudo understand the $$$$ range, those higher really don't make sense when you look at reviews (either new ladies or 8/8 & 9/9 average reviews).
Has the economy exploded and I missed it?
If you can't afford them, then don't see them.. See whom you can afford.. Or just jerk off.. Its free...
If the market can't handle it, they will adjust their rate or just drop off
Couldn't have said it better myself!!!!
If the market can't handle it, they will adjust their rate or just drop off.
....that's what I do if it's something I can't afford right away (or don't want to pay that price right away anyways) OR wait for a "sale" which I guess in this business would be a "special" lol.
CWNF you nailed it... couldn't have said it any better
TMM you to as well... Right on the... money
I "facepalm" whenever I read this, I think "Use BP if the girls are out of your price range", "Save your money", "how much would you charge to have a woman go greek on you, 4-6 times a day?", "Save your money"
I really don't care what a provider charges (She is either in my price range or not), I care if she deliver on the experience... If she did, I don't think about how much money I just spent... My two heads have an argument about where to find the money to quickly go back...
2-copper thingys, you don't see much any more, hit the floor
I noticed those specials, lol. Sometimes I see a few who will knock the rate down sometimes down to $200/hour if your can figure out their riddle/math problem for the price discount. Others will post the discounts for the multiple hours in the ads, I.e 3 hours for $300.
I don't see discounts for multiple hours as extreme as 3hrs for 300 o_O.
I wasn't whining. I was simply making an observation.
There are numerous providers in the 3-400 range that I love to spend time with and see frequently.
However, there has been a LARGE influx in the past two weeks of providers in the 5-600 range. Who are new, with minimal reviews, and offering an "introductory" rate of 5-600....
That was the driving force behind my question. Some of us don't live on the boards 24/7 like others do, so it is easy to miss a post or conversation.
Hence the question to group at large. It was not meant as a opening salvo for asinine comments.
i notice usually the $600 are not GND types.
there is a recent ad for a lady who is smokin' hot. way above average.I look at her pics and see why she charges that much.
There are numerous providers in the 3-400 range that I love to spend time with and see frequently.
However, there has been a LARGE influx in the past two weeks of providers in the 5-600 range. Who are new, with minimal reviews, and offering an "introductory" rate of 5-600....
That was the driving force behind my question. Some of us don't live on the boards 24/7 like others do, so it is easy to miss a post or conversation.
Hence the question to group at large. It was not meant as a opening salvo for asinine comments.
You didn't just make an observation, you asked questions, Next time just tell us you only want people who agree with you to answer
"whats going on with DC rates all of the sudden" - to me I don't think anything is unusual - Girls travel more during the summer (Stop throughs on their way to vacation to make a few extra bucks) , and DC is a stopping point... you may not continue to see the same higher priced girls coming back in the fall/winter... its all cyclical... aas well as some guys are just saving the money... why? because maybe some of the same ole $300 tricks aren't always a treat...
You even confirmed it in your post "That was the driving force behind my question" however, I really didn't see a valid question in "Has the economy exploded and I missed it?" I ask back do you think it has?
"those higher really don't make sense when you look at reviews (either new ladies or 8/8 & 9/9 average reviews)" - this is really a judgmental opinion, as to say that these girls don't have high enough averages to charge that much - my response, do you pick a provider solely on price? most pick it on sight and say I want to fuck that! and then if she is real (homework) charges what I want to spend (Save) I will save my cash so when she tours through I can enjoy myself... again you didn't seem to say that this was a good thing, so most of us saw this for what it is...
The main problem with posts like yours, is that they really don't have a positive side nor positive outcome... now its a free country to say what you want... and please speak it, however no one is persecuting you for what you said, but some of us don't agree with your "observations" so ask yourself, what did you expect us to say... "wow gee omg" im sorry some of us fell short of your expectations... but seriously and no offense to you, but get laid soon...
There are numerous providers in the 3-400 range that I love to spend time with and see frequently.
However, there has been a LARGE influx in the past two weeks of providers in the 5-600 range. Who are new, with minimal reviews, and offering an "introductory" rate of 5-600....
That was the driving force behind my question. Some of us don't live on the boards 24/7 like others do, so it is easy to miss a post or conversation.
Hence the question to group at large. It was not meant as a opening salvo for asinine comments.
Again it is like anything else supply and demand. Just like any other business the rates will reflect what the market is willing to pay. Kind of simple.
Just FYI I paid $300 hr for quality providers back in the late 90's. Current rates providers are charging arent that high. You get what you pay for. I suggest hitting the back of the truck stop in Jessup off of I95
if current rates are too high for you bubba.
...I've played in all price ranges and as with any other commodity, market, appliance, etc, etc......the general rule of "you get what you pay for...." should always be followed with "buyer beware.
Yup, I'd argue that a Non GFE provider could charge $500 and mother fckers would still come out in droves to see her. Too much money in this area - thanks to the Gov't. Def a whore's / sellers market right now.
A horny fool is another story entirely!!
Once it is over $$$ I take a break and use the funds for other things . On the other end it forces me to actually go out and get dates just on principal (hobbying can make you lazy) . What you ask for and what you get are 2 different things
Rates in DC are high relative to some other places due to the large number of professions such as attorneys, doctors and lobbyists in the area. But I disagree with those who would suggest that a man who refuses to pay $350 or higher is somehow a cheap bastard and should seek out streetwalkers or truck stop girls. The average wage for Americans is about $20/hour so an average guy would have to work 20 hours or over 2 1/2 days to spend one hour with a $400 escort. Now, if you're a lobbyist who earns $400 an hour, then it's just an hour of your time and it's not a big deal. For high wage earners, the rates are fine and they do not mind paying more if it is worth the experience. For the average guy, it is a bit expensive and they would be better off not seeing these escorts. As for me, I don't mind seeing the ads for high priced escorts, I just won't visit them. There are other cheaper options out there if you do your research. Still if the girls can get guys to pay them $400, $500 or higher, more power to them. Supply and demand. if there isn't enough clients at that price level, the price would go down
I doubt it. I can't recall ever seeing a provider drop her rates once they up them can you?
They only time I see a provider rate change is when they go to different cities and raise them or drop them for the area they go to.
Basic Econ. You are correct that providers are unlikely to lower their rates unless they are not getting the cash flow they expect/need. However if the current "businesses" (providers) are overpriced, new entries to the business will undercut them. The new businesses will remain at lower prices until they reach a point where they are getting too much traffic and will then raise their prices as well.
It is a dynamic equilibrium.
does she have to lower rates.
Because new businesses use their competitors' pricing models to determine what their likely profit margin will be. New entrants to the market will be looking to distinguish themselves in some way, but pricing may not necessarily be the way they seek to do it. In fact, in this industry (as with most service-based industries), price seems to have a direct correlation with the level of service a client will expect. A new girl shouldn't go below the market rate for the girls she is competitive with, as it may signal to potential clients that she is not as high quality as the others. Though I'm a new entrant to this particular industry, I can already see that clients aren't as price-sensitive as in other product-based industries. Clients here are more focused on quality of experience, and are likely to have a price range in which they are willing to play, looking for the best combination of price and quality.
Here's a good example: say you are looking for bids for an electrician to do some work on your house. If you have three bids at $1000, $1000, and $900, you'd probably pick the $90 individual, assuming the service levels are all the same. However, if you got a $500 bid, you may question what the quality of work will be. And, the bid at $900 isn't making that much less, but they also could be making $100 more, since that's what it appears the market will bear out. At that point, they may want to focus on other things that set them apart, rather than simply adjusting the price. In addition, say you want to spend no more than $1200 on your electrical work. If a bid came in at $1100 (over the competitors), but they can do it in half the time, and you are convinced they will be more professional than the other bidders, it would be better to choose them, if you think you'll get more than $100 worth of satisfaction out of the deal. Aren't people always saying to find the girl who's within your price range, that seems to give the best quality experience that the gentleman is looking for? This is exactly the economic theory at work.
As a result of this, new girls will use the established girls to determine what they should charge. Basically, they'll look at the girls they think they are competitive with, and price accordingly. No reason to undercut an established provider when the market will bear a higher rate. In addition - this market is especially sensitive to new girls, so there's no incentive to charge lower rates when they know they won't be penalized for charging the market rate.
Market rates are determined with a variety of factors - I'd opine that since DC has a lot of highly-paid individuals, and a LOT of highly-paid travelers, it is a higher market. But that's a more complicated discussion....
And they said my economics degree would never come in handy.....
Do you think you would get the rate you got if you did not do bbbj ?
I was just responding to the previous assertion that new business drives prices down - because it's simply not true, and I was bored....
But to seriously answer your question: no, I don't think I would, because then I wouldn't be providing as competitive a service as other girls. If that weren't on the menu, I doubt there'd be as much demand at the same price. That proves my point - when you're a service-based industry, pricing is based on what the market can bear for competitive services. Competition within a certain price-point then is based on quality of service, not lowest price. Girls that have higher prices theoretically provide a higher quality of service, and it's that quality that drives their demand, thus driving up their prices.
....and hopefully mine are better than my competitors ;
Wow, very impressive response. Hopefully I can pass your screening requirements to get to know you better!
Quality can be a slippery concept (no pun intended). As we all know, YMMV. Quality, somewhat like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. I worked with people who thought a Plymouth was as good as a Mercedes or a Holiday Inn met their needs as well as a Four Seasons. A lot of work in economics has tried to put value on quality, for example, in price indexes and the like, but it's imprecise.
For large numbers of people, I think a consensus develops regarding quality. For small numbers, they may totally disagree. If someone likes tall, the hottest 5'2" beauty might not appeal. Someone may like only blondes or redheads, but not Kathy Ireland or Diane Lane. Someone may focus on certain menu item that partially drive a provider's rate and totally discount others. Some guys appreciate a luxurious hotel room and expensive lingerie, while others do not.
In short, assessing quality is inexact and quite likely personal.
Lets leave the usual high pay rollers out, doctors, lawyers, sport players, business owners, lobbyists, and politicians. You have a lot of government workers both civilian and contractors that are making mega bucks these days. Many of the beltway bandits will pay folks at least $150K or more, sometimes $250,000 to be a glorified program manager. Then you have the government jobs paying folks at least $120,000 to $150,000 for folks with it skills. Then there are the cleared jobs with the high level clearances where the pay is very high $180,000.
Take a look at the real estate prices and prices for rent. Rent in many areas has gone from $900/month back in early 1990's to $2000/month for the same place. Ask yourself how come there are so many sky high prices for houses in Howard, Montgomery, Fairfax, etc counties.....
That is where you get your answers.
Looking at the responses by the agencies on the providers on this thread they are getting a good laugh. Their phones are ringing off the hook.
Now the other reason is to keep the undesirables away. I was shocked years ago when I found out that someone making $40K a year would pay to see a $300/hour escort. I thought it was only the 6 figure+ salary guys who would pay for a provider like that.
That is correct, there are a lot of providers who are GFE (UTR - under the radar). They are so good that they don't have to be on the boards or advertise. They have secret societies that are be invite only. Many make so much that they only have to work 6 months out of the year. They let other visiting providers have access to their system and from I know one of them has a least 1,000 customers in their customer base. They have their own private review boards and the providers who live up the GFE are banished to sites like BP forever.
correction "They have their own private review boards and the providers who don't live up the GFE are banished to sites like BP forever. "
I know a moderator who was told to banish a few.
There are a lot of quality providers there; if you want to see $600 an hr girls, then you need to have the income to support it- bear in mind, too, that many ladies choose their particular price points to weed out certain skeevy elements- do what works for you and your budget, but sometimes, when it comes down to it, a Lexus and a Toyota are the same exact car, just branded differently with different price points
Has the economy exploded and I missed it?
you have to pay first to see if it's really worth it.
That might be true, but the higher end providers who are charging those high rates I.E $600/hour are like Rolls Royce.
$40 seems like a step in the wrong direction??
Has the economy exploded and I missed it?
I've discussed the importance quality has in a service-based industry already, but your assertion is just wrong.
What you're saying is that for YOU, you can get the quality you're looking for at a lower price point than the higher priced ladies. That doesn't mean that a $300/hr girl and a $600/hr girl are no different BCD. We all know that's just not true. Sure, some girls at $300/hr are worth $600 (me? 
), but for the most part the higher priced girl is well-known, super hot, and creates a fantasy that her clients really want. Here's a practical example - I was told by a client that a *very* high priced lady (more than double what I charge) was a non-stop, turbo-charged sex machine, and lived up to everything he could have wanted. That's a very different experience than I provide, so I can see why she goes for more than I do. See - yet again, it's quality driving price, not the other way around.
While you are a provider you do not have the same mindset going into the transaction that the buyer has. Hence, I would suggest the perception of quality is totally different for the provider vs. the Monger.
For the gentlemen you referenced "the non-stop, turbo-charged sex machine..." lived up to HIS expectations. And just as you don't provide that type of session, I would not consider that type of session worth a *very* high price point.
I've been doing this awhile and I've played at all price points and I guess I could conclude that for me, it's a combination of my mood and my experience doing this. Per the various Ad malls and marketing I have not seen any "VIP/High Priced" lady I would be willing to pay double the standard DC rate.
The primary scenario where I would be willing to pay double the going rate and/or 4 figures is for a multi-hour and/or weekend scenario where there was a "vibe/connection" between the parties.
Most times, however, investment in "high priced" service turns out to be a V8 moment.
Yup, I know I'm new, and I haven't seen everything yet. But, I'd say your post proves my point - certain prices connote certain levels of quality - or services, or experience, or whatever you want to call it. And for you, you're not looking for that.
Aaahhh....all this econ talk is reminding me of horrible college exams - funny story, I showed up 2 hours late to my microeconomics exam. Still passed. Win!
I am no longer of the age or physical condition to take full advantage of the turbo-charged, non-stop provider, although I love to read the reviews (while looking at the pictures) and remember a time when I could. So for me, the higher price has little attraction because the "higher" level of service is wasted on me.
Also, I am impressed with your market analysis on this whole thread. To me that means you know that when you approach a business volume that is at or near your desired capacity, you can control your volume by gradually adjusting your rate upwards, particularly if a large percentage of your business is repeat customers. Reading your reviews also suggests to me that you are a bargain at your rates and I should call you fairly soon.
Who might that be??? Exactly what I am looking for.
Compared to Las Vegas, DC rates are more reasonable. Now, I like to travel to places like Thailand, the Philippines, Costa Rica, Brazil and the Dominican Republic, and when you compare DC rates to the rates in those locations, then rates seem sky high. Here, clearly, the attractive well reviewed escorts have high demand and they can raise their rates to match the demand. In other countries, there are way more escorts than clients and so the prices are much lower. As for prices, it's all relative. On discussion boards about Thailand, people complain about the prices going up and they are whining about the "outrageous" $100-130 asking rate for all night with a young attractive Thai superstar in her early 20s.
I travel a lot and when I go to Vegas and I'm in the mood for some company I arrange for the lady to fly out from DC or some other market where there not asking ridiculous rates. Or I do my homework and contract with a local Vegas lady that is closer to my local area asking prices. In addition, it's been my experience that DC rates are generally a tad bit cheaper than other markets i.e. New York, Cali, Chicago. My assumption is that DC has more clients/volume than other markets given varied clientel (Politicos, UN Ambassdors, Tourists, Senators, Athletes).
Case in point, I saw a lady in Vegas several years ago. She was asking $700 per hour. I was up front and informed her that that was not going to work for me. To her credit she asked what could we work out. We finalized on a multihour session which included a Cirque show and dinner. Overall, I'd give the date a "B" rating and I did not experience buyers remorse.
However, when the lady travels to my area she advertises at Vegas rates. I will not pay Vegas rates on my own turf when I already have established providers I can go see for almost half that