Agencies do not seem to be accepting 411 now perhaps due to recent events.

Well, that type of screening should be done every every time.

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we all should follow whatever you do.    

because they texted that they weren't accepting 411 as reference, I assumed that perhaps they do not have access anymore. And I posted to let people specially newbies know to be prepared for this.

Thus far, but I did have to present photo I.D. to provider upon entry. Had to do it with another indie on initial visit.

Many ladies are not on P411 and cannot get on it now. They are not accepting new US providers. Many ladies aren't on here anymore, many haven't figured out how rot get on and many won't. I for one am having issues getting here on my phone so definitely can't check whitelists of reviews that way.  Things are just different right now. Many ladies will want more information. Plus other sites of mention have been breached. If you think some ladies are asking for too much information now, well, just wait.

I agree. This type of screening should be done. If I was  in the hobbyists shoes, I'd be nervous if I wasn't screened.
I'd be interested on hearing the percentage of how many good experiences are had with a provider that screened thoroughly... Compared to an experience with a provider that didn't screen enough.  
We are all in this together.  
I do understand both sides want discretion. But, with that discretion comes uncertainty. It just the nature of the industry.

that you down have whitelist available or reviews.  
So far I have not suffer on my work... so.... you can definitely move to the next. It wont bother me  

He should message through P411 those he wants to see. Some people just don’t want to surrender PII. If he had recent Okays from established ladies would you still expect him to send his PII?

you know, for future reference and for clarity for the guys as they make choices.

Well shall see! Lots of changes definitely!  
If you read the fine print on P411... it also states that providers SHOULD verify the ID that match the person that request...

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technical then 411 asks to display ID with firstname, last initial, etc i.e. the info that make up the ID. Clients have right to TAPE up the rest of the information and cover it up. That being said, providers have every right to ask for everything they want as I do have the right to decline and Move On.

I didn't ask P411, I asked you your policy

This is one lady confident in her business model.

Does P411 require a provider's real name so they can do a background check on them like they do the client?

and my ID as well

You havent even book and with so much complaining... I doubt you ever will. So why waisted time...  
Next.

OK so following this thread I can definitely see why a provider would want a client's real name before she saw him. For the same reason I would want a providers real name before I saw her. I want to make sure she is not LE, has no prior felony or drug convictions, does not work for the Russian mafia, wasn't married to Mike Tyson, etc.. However I figure my chances of getting her real name are about zero. But I can't understand why a provider would be hypocritical enough to expect the client to give his. Now the Nativesman suggested that there is a middle ground. There is. So here is an analogy. When you buy a house or plane or big boat the SOP is you never give the seller the money until you have the title. On the other hand the seller is not about to give you the title until he gets the money. The bill is far to big for trust. So how is this handled? Through well established escrow companies. You, as the buyer give the money to the escrow company. When the seller is informed by the escrow company that the money is in fact in escrow the seller signs over the title and the escrow company gives him his money. OK, P411 is the established escrow company. I give them my real name and they background check me. The provider gives them her real name and they background check her. Now I, the client, and her, the provider, can close our deal. And as pointed out earlier, I can tape over the last name and street address on my driver's license, and P411 has provided the provider with my first name, my birth day, the first letter of the city I live in and the last four numbers of my drivers license number so she can ID me when we meet. It does not get any better than that. Yes P411 cost but you get what you pay for. I only date girls from P411. And to the lady who, on her web site, said she does not except P411 verification because "it is just a web site", well, I don't think we would have much of interest to talk if we met anyhow.

Sorry about the LOTR play there...

So that is why we are rescreening all clients who have used it.  We can't rely on it anymore as effective means of screening.  If you guys are having such a hard time giving up information, then don't whine and groan here.  Find someone who doesn't screen.

Exactly.  Why whine because someone wants to feel safe when they see someone.  Plenty of girls out there who don't screen.  I wish you good luck with that.  LOL! Why some begrudges the right of someone to be safe is beyond me.  Screen like your life depends on it, because it does.

I’ve had a funny way of screening since I started. I HAVE to talk on the phone. I ask questions and if anything at all gives me a “bad vibe” I end the call and move on. Many times clients do not want to give what I need to feel safe. No hard feelings. Just find someone who doesn’t need what I need. I’m really not hard to work with. Neither is Veronica. She just needs what she needs to feel excited to spend time with you.  
You should be excited too.  

+1 👍

They must be keeping that tidbit of info to themselves and the agencies. I've not heard of this change.

What are you talking about? The post mentions how agencies are getting booted and how guys are crying about screening process, what did I miss that you saw?

Okays aren't all the same.
Some give okays for different reasons.  
Whether it be to validate they saw the person,  if the appointment went well, and others use okays for both.
A provider reference regarding in okay can be very helpful. ( I recognize every experience is different.)

There seems to be mis-information. Since the new bill was passed, I've received a lot of requests with no screening information or asking me lower my prices. The answer will always be no.  Just because a bill was passed, doesn't mean I value safety any differently. . For the gentleman asking to lower prices, find a provider within your budget.  
As a traveling provider, there a is a price tag that comes with that. I'm low volume, asking me to lower my donation , is asking me to see you for free.  
If you have been in the hobby all the screening resources are still there. New people, that's a different story. Just a different screening process..
The amount of requests for a provider will pick up, once gentlemen know where to look.  
A visit with a gentleman, is an escape, fun, fulfilling... Let's keep it that way

Don't understand why guys are trying to lowball....
Even if the lady accepted... do they really think it would be a good experience?

Because they think they have the advantage. When in fact, they are screwed. Eventually they will bow to the changes and provide details or go to AMP spas on the street.

I have screen about 200 emails... 65% of them I would say are blacklisted, fake references. Just one I check last nite had:

Wow, 200, that’s awesome. It’s fucked up now where the jerks have no place to go. They contact higher quality providers.  

The need for "screening" not screaming. Lol!  
Gotta love auto correct. It's almost like it had a Freudian slip

This is a discussion, be kind....just like the others on this thread have been to you.

Business is the same.. if no better!  
Yes more non-sense inquiries but the good clients make up for it😉