If anyone on here has politicians for clients who voted yes on this bill please check it out

I would NOT out a client. They trust me with their info and reason why they keep contact me.  
Even in my “line of work” there’s an ethical code.

While this legislation has brought about changes that have endangered the safety and livelihood of both sex workers and clients, “outing” personal information of the Congressmen and politicians who have supported this bill is not okay. As a provider, my relationship with a client means safeguarding his/her information and holding it in the strictest confidence until the client does something that harms me. I do not associate myself with providers who do these types of things or engage in this type or behavior EVER and I will continue to speak out against it.

We have blacklists to communicate clients who are an imminent threat to providers with behaviors like boundary pushing, intimidation tactics, requesting unsafe activities, counterfeiting funds or otherwise short changing providers on the required donations, threatening physical or emotional harm, stalking, rape, robbery, assault, battery, and etc.  
It’s also important that providers continue to report behaviors that are suspicious or alarming... things like no calls/no shows and last minute cancellations (*especially* after a location has been given), harassment, erratic behavior, fake screening information or attempts to defraud the screening process, duplicate identities, etc.

All of those things are valid reasons to blacklist or greylist a client. If there are any providers who have trouble screening or need advice on how to tighten up procedures around records management, please contact me and I’m happy to help you.

As a general reminder, it is a threat to the entire sex worker community when other providers tell current or prospective clients that they are blacklisted or greylisted.

The ladies here have infinitely more class and character than those controlling our lives and rights in DC

There is a code here, where we out no one, for whatever reason.  The info you give me at screening will never be used as revenge.  It would destroy not only their lives but our credibility.  Simply not an option.

We will all work through this and still be able to hold our heads high. That is important.

Destroy THEIR lives?! You think its acceptable for clients to push forth a bill thats going to force us into poverty and perhaps cost us our lives?! They voted for a bill that is going to KILL sex workers, many will have no way to pay their rent, feed themselves or their children, or go onto the street where they are subject to severe violence, even more so if they are TS. Sex workers are going to DIE because of this bill!

Sorry but i dont give a shit about ruining their lives when they want us DEAD!

But lucky for them i dont work in DC......

I agree with the other ladies!  

And no, I don't "think its acceptable for clients to push forth a bill that's going to force us into poverty and perhaps cost us our lives?!"  

but NO WAY would I out someone who is a) a client; b) a friend and/or colleague; c) doing their job. just because I do what I do for a living doesn't mean that I don't have integrity, honor and commitment...

I don't really think that they want us dead... that's a bit extreme.  but we are definitely being fucked (and not in that fun way-lol)

i am confident that this bill will be repealed! it's blatantly unconstitutional.  
the sad thing is that i feel we are helpless because the majority of people being affected here have little voice because we don't want to draw unnecessary attention to the wrong people.

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Instead of trying to ruin lives, get creative and figure out how to live yours.

Outing a client in this fashion strikes me as a career-ending move for the provider. I can't see how the leverage could be used without outing the provider's stage name, and the ensuing media shitstorm would also threaten her full identity.  

I don't think there's any rebranding that would work to erase that stigma. What client would book with a provider who's infamously outed another one of her clients?

hear hear! This industry is too big to be effected by this law. all they've done is push people to secure lines of communications. Think of all the people that have TOR now! it's crazy to think how many more people just got access to the dark web. Ironically, all they have done is make actual human trafficking harder to track down. Everyone has gone VPN / TOR and the websites will follow - it's too easy to setup a ad review site overseas that live in onionland etc. I hope the ladies can sustain off regulars for just a little while, and everything will be back up soon just more secure.  

by the way take this as a push to start moving all comms secure. get protonmail for email, move your website overseas etc, get and require a secure messaging app like signal or textsecure, for the day of coordination.

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I hope you girls are just practicing good PR here, because someone taking an active role in destroying your livelihood is shitting all over whatever pact you think you've entered in.  And doing so quite egregiously, might I add, as someone who indulges in it.  Your ethical obligation is done.  The accord between patron and provider becomes void when one party thumbs its nose at the well-being of the other.  

 
That isn't to say you should listen to the OP (unless you were pining for martyrdom).  What he's urging is dangerous, so keeping quiet would be prudent.  But citing trust and vows?  Come the fuck on.  

 
Edit:  You know what, I'll soften my tone here.  Even if it would be proper comeuppance, I can appreciate that you girls are loving, good-natured people who wouldn't want to destroy a person's life in *any* circumstance.  That's to be admired (no sarcasm).  But the ethics you think you're bound to just ain't there...

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Outstanding post---agree 100% with everything you said!! (Ultimately, all this is going to do is change the "protocols", if you will, on how clients and providers work with each other. We'll still be around--NOTHING will EVER change that!!)

Dumbest thing I ever heard.  Where does it end?  If the goal is to really fuck the hobby  up, go right the fuck ahead and start outing those who disagree with you (on anything). For the ladies, it just makes a bad situation much, much worse.

This type of revenge outing talk will work in the favor of ladies with good regulars and screw those without and really screw traveling ladies.  Who wants to see new ladies with all of this threatening going on?  Is it time for guys to hunker down even more until this insanity passes?

For now my list got a LOT shorter.

Dumbfucks, just what the ladies DON'T need now are scared clients and scared potential clients!

I am shocked that more aren't speaking out strongly against this nonsense and telling anyone with this view to knock it off.

Kudos to the ladies who reject this insanity, it's a pity that more don't.

Outing is wrong. Doesn’t matter what the guys job is or how he votes. This is a secret society.  

Xoxo
Eden

I have been in the hobby for a year and a half. I am older and have old values. I have come to respect this industry. It impressed me by being about the best self regulated industry imaginable. I once heard a speech by a libertarian that promoted the idea that government screws things up where the people , if left along, always do it better. I appreciate the moral attitude that providers should not out those who voted for this new law yet frequented the hobby themselves. However, you will loose if you don't. Your leaders would kill you outright if it benefits them. During WWII a German submarine sank an ocean liner with 1,500 civilians on board (it was also carrying war supplies) who made it into life rafts. The U-boat commander radioed Germany for help. They sent two more U-boats to tow the life boats to safety. I think they even notified the allies they they were under a flag of truce and wanted the allies to meet them and save the 1500. Well the US sent bombers instead and tried to sink the U-boats while still towing the life boats. The only thing they succeeding in doing was killing the civilians. The only civilians that survived were women who had nursing children who the Germans brought on board the subs because they did not think the very young could survive the exposure. So that is your government. Has been since Sherman's march. Compassion is for losers. P411 had stopped accepting new providers last week. Today they stopped accepting new clients. The Wall Street Journal, the Washington post and even the DOJ said this was a bad law yet they passed it anyway so they could look good. There is a web site offering $25,000 to the first ten providers that have proof of providing to a lawmaker that voted for this law. Hey, out them and get the money I say.