: Washington DC Discussion : no dog in this

beltwaybandit 6003 reads

posted 12 years ago

1 / 79

Anyone remember Farrah, young spinner who used to tour DC? Came across a short documentary about her, google "farrah gfe documentary". I don't think she comes to DC anymore but after watching this , kudos to you if you can have an appointment with her and still maintain the gfe fantasy

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no_email 3 Reviews 3196 reads

posted 12 years ago

15 / 79

I liked when you said...

The clients chose Farrah based on her looks & her looks alone.

I found that to be a very honest statement, because what else is their to go on?

Now go away and stop hurting our feelings. lol

Deen 2823 reads

posted 12 years ago

16 / 79

Thx. Why did you leave home at 18 for NYC

without any money or a job? Were you leaving behind something bad? Or some other reason?

beltwaybandit 2715 reads

posted 12 years ago

17 / 79

Re: Thx. Why did you leave home at 18 for NYC

Sounds like Dean wants to direct Part II of the documentary

Posted By: Deen

without any money or a job? Were you leaving behind something bad? Or some other reason?

Deen 3064 reads

posted 12 years ago

18 / 79

This woman seems unusually forthcoming and

I am hoping to learn a bit more about at least one provider.

Life410 12 Reviews 2352 reads

posted 12 years ago

19 / 79

Snoop said it in 94' I don't love them hoes...

It's feels better than FAPing...even civie women cost $$$...or time which is valuable in an economic sense.

You get a Hott girl (subjective) on demand....what's the problem? Most women been prudes since forever I can remember unless ya were on pace to be a star athlete or came from money. unless you can deal with ugly women...it's a good option as you cut out the middle man and formalities to boot. Outside a drunk college girl you ain't getting some on 1st encounter or at will with a Hott girl.

$$$ eliminates most BS running through a civie head. Cause a lot of civies chase the dough and do the same thing anyways...see Kim Kardashian. Kim K done the same shit an escort did, but did it in a round-a-bout/ social acceptable way.

*end rant

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posted 12 years ago

20 / 79

You know Farrah... As a provider I am a little frustrated

We get SO much crap, and then you're going to sit there and do an interview about how you're to lazy to go to college and look at your nails? All because, at the bottom of it, you just wanted to be on camera?

I know things get taken out of context, but god. You could have at least thought about the fact that you were doing an interview, and tried to portray all of us as something other than whiney, lazy lady children. Even a "I love it because the money is good and lets me focus on the things that are really important to me" would have been better than "I wanna quit this job after I buy a house and a car because the guys aren't my first pick, but I never want to do any actual work". You could have even said all those things, but in a way that didn't come across so.... Demeaning to yourself and your colleagues.

You just played into every single misogynistic stereotype and ate it the fuck up. It was an interview, on camera, for a documentary. Even if you were surprised, you were aware of this, and you still chose to portray yourself in that light. I know it's all about you, but come on. You had the chance not to show your ass, and you went the opposite way with it.

As a girl who can honestly agree and see where you're coming from, no matter how you said it, I am still pretty disappointed in how you portrayed yourself, and consequently (no matter how wrongly or unfairly), the rest of us too. You had the opportunity to really let our collective voice be heard for a change, and you blew it off as a chance to get more attention for yourself.

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posted 12 years ago

21 / 79

This wasn't about you.

Do your own interview, and then you can say whatever you want. I never claimed to be representing anyone other than myself. If you feel like this effects you in some way that's your own problem.

Life410 12 Reviews 2508 reads

posted 12 years ago

22 / 79

Re: You know Farrah... As a provider I am a little pissed

Posted By: OhCharlie

We get SO much crap, and then you're going to sit there and do an interview about how you're to lazy to go to college and look at your nails? All because, at the bottom of it, you just wanted to be on camera?

I know things get taken out of context, but god. You could have at least thought about the fact that you were doing an interview, and tried to portray all of us as something other than whiney, lazy lady children. Even a "I love it because the money is good and lets me focus on the things that are really important to me" would have been better than "I wanna quit this job after I buy a house and a car because the guys aren't my first pick, but I never want to do any actual work". You could have even said all those things, but in a way that didn't come across so.... Demeaning to yourself and your colleagues.

You just played into every single misogynistic stereotype and ate it the fuck up. It was an interview, on camera, for a documentary. Even if you were surprised, you were aware of this, and you still chose to portray yourself in that light. I know it's all about you, but come on. You had the chance not to show your ass, and you went the opposite way with it.

As a girl who can honestly agree and see where you're coming from, no matter how you said it, I am still pretty disappointed in how you portrayed yourself, and consequently (no matter how wrongly), the rest of us too. You had the opportunity to really let our collective voice be heard for a change, and you blew it off as a chance to get more attention for yourself.

Does it really matter? A lot of good-looking college educated girls are super stuck-up in my experience. Decent women require money be it civie or escort.

However, The average escort seems chill and down to earth...if one ain't know what they did for a living they worthy of hanging out with. At least escort are real and up-front with people about $$$

As a dude that went to private school for high school and then to colleges and was not the typical mold of those institutions beyond the mental aspect.. ..I appreciate escorts and strippers as it is refreshing to a lot my past experiences.

I find strippers, escorts, etc. refreshing, ha

*end rant

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posted 12 years ago

23 / 79

I agree, it was a missed opportunity is all

Like I said, I can genuinely agree with what she said. Pretty much all of it. But it was how she said it, and the tone she used, that changed the meaning.

OhCharlie See my TER Reviews 2581 reads

posted 12 years ago

24 / 79

You're right, it only reflects on you

It doesn't effect me, but it does reflect on you. You missed a good opportunity to NOT be the dumb hooker. And just as you're allowed to do that to yourself, I am allowed to be disappointed that you perpetuated that stereotype when so many of us are not.

WaxingPoetic 2739 reads

posted 12 years ago

25 / 79

This should tell you all you need to know:

Posted By: FarrahGFE

Do your own interview, and then you can say whatever you want. I never claimed to be representing anyone other than myself. If you feel like this effects you in some way that's your own problem.

By the way, it's 'affects.' You're welcome.

But never mind that, I wouldn't worry about her being a hooker, that's quite obvious all she's talented enough to do, but just look at her as a person. She's really quite ugly. She sounds like a robot on that video because it's apparent she's devoid of any human emotion. So, yes, you're going to get fake.

And, also, she's so without insight into human nature that her ego told her people would see how fabulous she was in this and that her words were so clever and so raw and true that you'd forget she's telling you she thinks you're a loser who only exists to further her vacuous and empty lifestyle.

So, word is out. No one is better then you, Farrah. Thanks for the notice

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posted 12 years ago

26 / 79

Another slightly different point of view....

I don't post that often, however I have played in this "other world" for over a dozen years and enjoyed the hell out it!! My first reaction after seeing the video was similar to many of the other male hobbyists……even if we are way older than the typical provider and we are carrying a few extra pounds (who doesn’t after they reach 50 and can afford to enjoy some of the finer things in life), we do hope that our partner in this “other world” 1) appears happy to see us, 2) finds us engaging by our point of view or humor, and 3)can sometimes feel relaxed enough to enjoy the physical pleasures we encourage and try to provide (does that make us providers too?)

Taken out of context or on just face value, her comments seemed cold and condescending. However, after viewing the video again, I see it differently. It was ultimately presented as a snap shot of a young woman trying to find herself and experiencing the “rush” of freedom.

If you listen closely she wanted to get the hell out of Virginia and start a new and exciting chapter of her life. And, she did it in a very pragmatic way---by picking someone attractive to hang with, have sex, and what happens next… happens. For Farrah, the next step (becoming an escort) was a natural progression. Again, it took her free spirit “joie de vivre” and pragmatism to take that step. By the way, the last time I checked, I look at the pictures of the providers I want to see, check out their reviews, and pick the ones I think might enjoy my company. I’m admittedly shallow….I initially pick a potential partner based on physical appearance, but I continue to see a provider when we connect on some level. And what I’ve found is that if the time we share is about having fun, laughing, and not taking one’s self too seriously…. it can be pretty damn awesome.

So now imagine, that you need to be charming, engaging, and “up” for some very intimate activities 5-7 or even 3-4 times in a day. In our professional lives, we have to be “on our game” to be successful. Consider being in sales and having to hit the ball out of the park 5-7 times a day. Or, you’re a lawyer and you need to litigate 5-7 cases a day and be “on your “A” game” for each one. Now imagine that you have to do that as your travel for 3-5 consecutive days. You just might not be 100% every time. When Farrah said the easy part is the sex, I get it.

Many of us hobbyist want some kind of human connection and that can be daunting for many providers. I don’t know about the typical dude in this other world, but I’ve probably seen over 200 providers and there are only a handful I want to see on a regular basis and I get to choose who I see based on pictures and reviews. As Farrah said, she’s seen over 400 dudes sight unseen and tries to make them feel special from the moment one of them walks in….no matter what he looks like, what his needs are, what his breath is like, and how much hair he has on various parts of his body. It takes a very special person to pull off the GFE thing. That’s why the majority of providers in TER land reviewed, get subjective ratings of 6-7. Many get far below that. And, many are so uninspiring they don’t even get reviewed. The special ones get the 9 and 10s. I believe Farrah consistently gets high scores. So forgive her for thinking about things like what she needs to get at the grocery store or what color she will do her nails if the dude she’s with is boring her the hell out, or just taking way too friggin’ long.

I find that when I’m with boring/ non-creative people, I too drift away pretty quickly. What I heard in the documentary (both through the editing visually and through Farrah’s words) is that being a high quality provider truly takes a very creative/artistic person. And when Farrah says she’s thinking about leaving the escort world, perhaps it’s simply that she wants to begin a new chapter in her life. Nothing more, nothing less. It’s not necessarily the result of how uninspiring we clients can be. In many ways, the truly special ladies in this arena have a thirst to find something new, exciting, and inspiring. While some of my friends leave “the biz” because of burnout, the successful ones just find something better as the next chapter in their life.

For most of the young ladies I’ve chosen to see more than once, being an escort is a means to an end. It's a profession that requires amazing creativity and talent to be elite and successful. In my humble opinion, my friends in this “other world” are just as artistic, creative, and uniquely talented as any great musician, visual artist, or professional athlete. They have to, to see me more than once and convince me that I'm a sexual stud!

I never had the pleasure of meeting Farrah, but there is something really cool about her ability to go out, take chances, and experience life to it’s fullest. At the very least cut her some slack for being in her 20’s and trying to find herself.

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s_hokie 2 Reviews 2658 reads

posted 12 years ago

27 / 79

no dog in this - just curious

I guess I can understand both sides of the debate. My question for the ladies is this...

Is it that maybe the situation for you ladies is sort of like what a doctor or lawyer would face... Both get into the profession because they like the idea of interacting with people and helping people. For both (and other professionals as well) - there are probably clients/patients that you truly enjoy working with, that make your day, and that make you glad you entered the profession.

Other days, you have a client who makes you question why you ever decided to get into the business.

Speaking from the guys' side, maybe its easier for us to digest if this is the issue. I think the idea that someone dislikes the whole line of work, but goes into it anyway (primarily just to get paid) - that is what is difficult for us to understand / get our heads around.

alexzint 52 Reviews 2557 reads

posted 12 years ago

28 / 79

Kudos to Farrah

i enjoyed the short video. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think she sounded cold in the video on purpose, just her style of speech. I think her comments sum up how a lot of attractive young ladies in this business may feel. As someone said earlier, let's cut her some slack, she's a girl in her early 20's trying to find her way. I know I wasn't the most mature person in my early 20s.

ttcttc 138 Reviews 2679 reads

posted 12 years ago

29 / 79

Re: I agree, it was a missed opportunity is all

Oh Charlie --- You have some very thoughtful responses regarding what you don't like about the way Farrah said things. I think alot of us guys would be very interested to hear what you feel is the better way to address these issues. I mean this as an invitation (not a taunt).

earthshined 2536 reads

posted 12 years ago

30 / 79

Re: You know Farrah... this proves what I've always felt and known

especially about the younger escorts (early 20's)
Many hobbyists are delusional about this and providers being business people take advantage of it. (nothing wrong with it btw)

You will often see providers chiming in that it's not representative of all escorts. I don't think that's true. IMO, there are many more escorts that feel like farrah than the other way around.(on a % basis)

It also makes it easier to stick to 1 hour appointments and forget trying to show a lady a good time with extra activities by just sticking to the main reason to participate in this hobby. i.e.sex

I can understand a 22 yr old struggling to see someone who is in their 60's or 70's.They could just screen better and narrow the field down to acceptable clients. There are a few ladies on the DC board that do this.

Posted By: OhCharlie

We get SO much crap, and then you're going to sit there and do an interview about how you're to lazy to go to college and look at your nails? All because, at the bottom of it, you just wanted to be on camera?

I know things get taken out of context, but god. You could have at least thought about the fact that you were doing an interview, and tried to portray all of us as something other than whiney, lazy lady children. Even a "I love it because the money is good and lets me focus on the things that are really important to me" would have been better than "I wanna quit this job after I buy a house and a car because the guys aren't my first pick, but I never want to do any actual work". You could have even said all those things, but in a way that didn't come across so.... Demeaning to yourself and your colleagues.

You just played into every single misogynistic stereotype and ate it the fuck up. It was an interview, on camera, for a documentary. Even if you were surprised, you were aware of this, and you still chose to portray yourself in that light. I know it's all about you, but come on. You had the chance not to show your ass, and you went the opposite way with it.

As a girl who can honestly agree and see where you're coming from, no matter how you said it, I am still pretty disappointed in how you portrayed yourself, and consequently (no matter how wrongly or unfairly), the rest of us too. You had the opportunity to really let our collective voice be heard for a change, and you blew it off as a chance to get more attention for yourself.

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ImJustSaying 2297 reads

posted 12 years ago

31 / 79

someone should post this on NYC and LV as well

I've never seen Farrah, now i don't regret it at all.

first of all, good for you for getting an avg score of 9.1 for your performance by looking at your nails and thinking about colors.

if you see us nothing more than an object to tolerate for an hour or an walking ATM for you, please don't blame the guys see you as an object and treat you like a piece of meat.

maybe I'm naive. but i've always thought this is a two-way street. treat each other with respect.
but this is a perfect example. after seeing this video, some guys will generalize this as "every provider's point of view" on guys. and you wonder why there are so many assholes out there

earthshined 2843 reads

posted 12 years ago

32 / 79

Re: Rather telling but nothing surprising also proves how lost young people are

she doesnt know wtf she's doing.

808transplant 45 Reviews 2477 reads

posted 12 years ago

33 / 79

I am sorry but I just busted out in laughter

I know this is off topic .When you even remotely suggested that Doctors and Lawyers "HELP PEOPLE" hahahhaahhahha. Well, unless the Good Doctor works for Doctors Without Borders or Runs a Free Walk in clinic in the Inner city of Baltimore. Maybe if you had said a Nurse, Therapist or even a Paramedic I would have believed you. As far as Lawyers is concerned, I just cant imagine anything good coming from that industry. Can you name me something good they do that is not extremely Self serving? I work in the legal industry so I see them in action on a daily basis.

earthshined 2586 reads

posted 12 years ago

34 / 79

Re: no dog in this - just curious what about the poor sap who wrote

that he had a great "connection" on his date with her?

s_hokie 2 Reviews 2401 reads

posted 12 years ago

35 / 79

Re: I am sorry but I just busted out in laughter

You're right. The vast majority of lawyers are dicks. And I guess the same is true of doctors too...

Hypothetically speaking, maybe someone was on a little bit of a self-righteous high when he wrote that previous post because he just wrapped up his big pro bono project...

Point taken, Good Sir.

HandsSolo 2797 reads

posted 12 years ago

36 / 79

Nail Color

Thanks for the link. This lady is nothing if not honest. While I'm on top she is thinking about her nail color or doing her taxes. I am thinking about Janet Reno or Big Papi. We are both working toward the final climax of our relationship. She is wishing it would come sooner and I am wishing it to come later. When we are done, we will both be satisfied.

Hands

HandsSolo 2642 reads

posted 12 years ago

37 / 79

Re: Farrah

Ehhhhh. I always suspected that it was not only a neutral response but was actually a negative response. Do me a favor; if you find me to be really repulsive, could you please just say "Sorry, Hands, but I have to wash my hair and go to my grandma's funeral.

Hands

Life410 12 Reviews 2627 reads

posted 12 years ago

38 / 79

Haha, But I've actually heard that from Providers before!

to remain low-key.....Let's just say I'm older than the Farrah's of the world, but young enough I ain't passing some providers screenings.

I've had some providers volunteer that type of info and saying it's a weird job to have, means to an end,etc. and it's cool they can actually talk to me about young people stuff etc, lol. I've gotten $20 back as tip from a young lady and a free extra hr from one cause they had fun with me respectively and it wasn't really work like dealing with other clients and didn't let me tip for it. When a girl gives back $ I take that as being kinda real....unless they were well crafted tricks to get me to repeat and I was the sucka, haha.

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posted 12 years ago

39 / 79

Another docu-movie

Some other local/familiar names featured in this film.

American Courtesans:
http://www.americancourtesans.com/

10 reasons to watch:
http://dating.com/articles/about-escorts/10-curious-reasons-to-see-american-courtesans

Related Link: AmericanCourtesans

TheDollarMenu 2388 reads

posted 12 years ago

40 / 79

Farrah, your so young. It's okay. I was young and retarded too when I was your age.

But we all grow out of it. Farrah, part of your business is how you advertise and present yourself. You should put more effort into how your clients view you. Making those kinds of statements in your documentary may discourages potential clients.

I don't normally give advices on a fuck board. But your young and I hope you see how retarded and fake you look on camera. By the way, when you became gentrified, you shouldn't talk and act as though your classier and better than what you really are. It makes you look retarded.

I just hope you grow up with some damn common sense.

earthshined 2355 reads

posted 12 years ago

41 / 79

Re: I saw this and personally thought it was very one sided

agree with you there. kind of stereotypical but, she is not a filmmaker nor a producer and it showed.It's worth seeing though.

Posted By: JuliasLilSecret

It only portrayed the negative aspects of entering this business. For me, and I'm sure for many others, there was nothing negative about becoming an escort. If anything, it has been an empowering experience. I've had a great life and choose to be here. I am not here out of necessity nor have I been treated poorly in the three years that I have been here. It's all about choices...what you choose to do with your life and what you choose to let happen to you. I sincerely pity anyone who ever thinks that they will harm me, as I am just not someone who would ever allow that to happen.

It's not all sad stories and unwilling participation out here. There are some ladies who are having fun and making a little cash while doing it. I've honestly had a much better time doing this than I ever did with dating after my divorce. The dating pool is full of game players and assholes that I have zero interest in. Out here, we all know what's going on and it works for all of us. I take care of needs that many of your wives no longer do so that you can go home and be a good father/husband, and I get to enjoy the best parts of you without having to put up with your bullshit at home...picking up your dirty socks, doing your laundry, having you fart on me in bed, and keep me awake all night with your snoring. It's all good, for both of us! =)

So, for the two movies/short films I've seen, it's been very disappointing and not at all representative of what I have experienced.

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Sidney Starr See my TER Reviews 2529 reads

posted 12 years ago

42 / 79

I can agree on the comment about the films not being representative at all.

With the two films mentioned above I did not identify with them at all. The one, I recall it saying it would break stereotypes about women in the profession and the profession itself, but all it did was hold true to the stereotype. There are reasons why I feel this way which I will not go into here but I am still waiting for a refreshing take on this profession I am currently in. ;-0)

ICantQuit 2789 reads

posted 12 years ago

43 / 79

I didn't contact you because of your look/s...... -e-

END OF MESSAGE

WondersOfTheWrld 2498 reads

posted 12 years ago

44 / 79

If the AC documentary doesn't resonate with you, feel free to make your own.

While I didn't enter this industry for negative reasons, I have and will always recognize the various reasons in which all women in this industry enter. It's important for them to share their experiences; good, bad and the ugly.

If anyone has an issue with how some people choose to share their experience, then stand up and share your own. Otherwise, please do recognize the women (and their entry experiences) in this industry are widely varied and may not always fit your own, which doesn't mean their experience should be silenced!

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WondersOfTheWrld 2554 reads

posted 12 years ago

45 / 79

Please feel free to stop waiting & make your own documentary about your refreshing experience

as a whore.

Until then, please do respect the various takes on this industry.

As I said above, while I didn't enter this industry for negative reasons, I have and will always recognize the various reasons in which all women in this industry enter. It's important for them to share their experiences; good, bad and the ugly.

If anyone has an issue with how some people choose to share their experience, then stand up and share your own. Otherwise, please do recognize the women (and their entry experiences) in this industry are widely varied and may not always fit your own, which doesn't mean their experience should be silenced!

My experience may have been positive, but I will NEVER attempt to act as if some women's experiences aren't as important as mine, and they don't have to represent me, whatsoever. If I feel so inclined to share my side of the story, I'll do so. Until then, I won't criticize those who stand up and express themselves.

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posted 12 years ago

46 / 79

Re: I agree, it was a missed opportunity is all

I think that the clip, as it stands, comes across as very "poor me, my life is so serious". Her tone and her answers came across as if she was a lower end girl, who was here not totally out of choice.

What would actually be refreshing and "raw", in my opinion, would have been to own it. At $500 an hour and 20-30 hours a month, she is choosing to be here. Yes, parts of the job suck, but so does every job. Rather than portray herself as some poor girl who has to fuck all these gross men, she could have used it as an opportunity to say "hey. I'm just like you. I do this job not necessarily because I love it, but because it works for me and it pays the bills". We face so much stigma, and there are so many stereotypes about how so many of us don't have a choice, and lead sad little lives. I just wish she hadn't played into it by complaining so much. I have been MUCH less happy for an hour of my life, and if she hasn't to the point where she can't appreciate something that can afford her this kind of life style, she has had it pretty easy.

The other thing that bothered me, and I think changed the overall feel of the video more than anything else, was her tone. Flat, cold, and that of someone who either takes themselves way to seriously, or of a down trodden girl. It frustrates me to see this tone applied to someone who is not. Again, she is not some poor girl being forced into this. There is no reason for her to work so hard to portray herself so depressingly. Instead of a somber "all of them are below average", how about a "meh, it's a mixed bag. Some of them are gross but I've met a hottie or two te he" would not only have come across better, but would have been way more accurate. Even the comment about being to lazy to go to college was said in a way that made it sound like we should pity her, when honestly, that exact part could have been really funny.

To another girl, it came off as trying to hard to be edgy, to be on the fringe. She's not, she's lucky as hell, compared to a lot of girls. And the unfortunate thing is that no matter how much she was only speaking for herself, she has only reinforced the general thinking about all of us. We as a community know better, but she is not speaking to the community. Like I said, it's totally up to her how she chooses to portray herself, but it was a wasted opportunity to show that we shouldn't all be painted with the same broad stroke. All because, at the end of the day, that's what she wanted. To watch people pity her.

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posted 12 years ago

47 / 79

Re: Another slightly different point of view....

I agree with this, I really do. But, we also have more insight than the general public, and can deduce these things because we are in it.

OhCharlie See my TER Reviews 2720 reads

posted 12 years ago

48 / 79

Classier and better than what she really is?

Excuse me? She portrayed herself poorly, but she was also at the mercy of editing. I don't think it's fair at all to call her retarded, and this attitude that she is just a lowly hooker who should know her place is exactly what we are talking about not wanting to perpetuate.

It's not so much because of her, but because of people that think and speak this way.

WondersOfTheWrld 2558 reads

posted 12 years ago

49 / 79

Never did I imply that I was trying to shut you up. Yap all ya want.

All I'm saying is instead

of criticizing someone for publicly sharing their PERSONAL and REAL experience that you deem stereotypical or disappointing, share your own. You can even do so discreetly as Farah did.

I just won't ever understand why some people complain, but do nothing about remedying the situation.

Further, I don't believe that every documentary should be inclusive of all experiences, but should represent the experiences of those willing to open themselves up and share their experiences with the world by being in a documentary. And even if their experiences are stereotypical, who cares! It is THEIR real life experiences. And then it is up to the escorts from the other side to share their own positive experience, if they feel it's not being represented in existing documentaries. Why complain to ladies who can't represent that experience, if it genuinely is not their own?

I've just seen your same complaint about escort documentaries over the years and still not one of the complainers have taken action to ensure their positive side of the story has been shared. So, it gets kind of tiresome listening to the same complain about women whose experience may not be all peaches and cream for them, but it is real.

Just keep sitting on the sidelines and complaining; otherwise, feel free to stand up and be the change that you want to see.

I won't hold my breath.

WondersOfTheWrld 2639 reads

posted 12 years ago

50 / 79

I definitely don't think this video is the best marketing strategy and I do believe...

...it may have a negative effect on Farah's business, unfortunately, because so many men want their egos stroked even when paying a prostitute for sex. It would be ideal if these men understood the entire experience was just a transaction and could still appreciate Farah for what she offers despite her documentary.

Whatever the outcome, she's still young and can always reincarnate herself, if needed, and come back as an escort who takes every chance to share how much she loves her job and every man she sees, and how the connection is REAL (for the right money, of course). And when her clients are below average, she will make sure to proclaim how fabulous each and every one of them are physically.

lol...Farah's honesty was refreshing. Hopefully, there are enough men who get what p4p is all about and see an escort for their performance (not their true feelings), so that it doesn't impact her too much.

Sorry to say, Farah isn't the only one who feels this way. So boycott her all you want, but know that the next gal may be feeling the same way, she just won't tell you.

ttcttc 138 Reviews 2157 reads

posted 12 years ago

51 / 79

Re: I agree, it was a missed opportunity is all

Thank you. Very interesting and helpful, to me at least, in understanding the issues.

One thing I do wonder about is the editing of the clip. They clearly cut together alot of different things that she said and there was this delay between each of her comments. I think that had a big effect on the tone of the piece, but obviously her actual words did too.

Posted By: OhCharlie

I think that the clip, as it stands, comes across as very "poor me, my life is so serious". Her tone and her answers came across as if she was a lower end girl, who was here not totally out of choice.

What would actually be refreshing and "raw", in my opinion, would have been to own it. At $500 an hour and 20-30 hours a month, she is choosing to be here. Yes, parts of the job suck, but so does every job. Rather than portray herself as some poor girl who has to fuck all these gross men, she could have used it as an opportunity to say "hey. I'm just like you. I do this job not necessarily because I love it, but because it works for me and it pays the bills". We face so much stigma, and there are so many stereotypes about how so many of us don't have a choice, and lead sad little lives. I just wish she hadn't played into it by complaining so much. I have been MUCH less happy for an hour of my life, and if she hasn't to the point where she can't appreciate something that can afford her this kind of life style, she has had it pretty easy.

The other thing that bothered me, and I think changed the overall feel of the video more than anything else, was her tone. Flat, cold, and that of someone who either takes themselves way to seriously, or of a down trodden girl. It frustrates me to see this tone applied to someone who is not. Again, she is not some poor girl being forced into this. There is no reason for her to work so hard to portray herself so depressingly. Instead of a somber "all of them are below average", how about a "meh, it's a mixed bag. Some of them are gross but I've met a hottie or two te he" would not only have come across better, but would have been way more accurate. Even the comment about being to lazy to go to college was said in a way that made it sound like we should pity her, when honestly, that exact part could have been really funny.

To another girl, it came off as trying to hard to be edgy, to be on the fringe. She's not, she's lucky as hell, compared to a lot of girls. And the unfortunate thing is that no matter how much she was only speaking for herself, she has only reinforced the general thinking about all of us. We as a community know better, but she is not speaking to the community. Like I said, it's totally up to her how she chooses to portray herself, but it was a wasted opportunity to show that we shouldn't all be painted with the same broad stroke. All because, at the end of the day, that's what she wanted. To watch people pity her.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 2825 reads

posted 12 years ago

52 / 79

Jesus. That was depressing. -e-

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Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 2628 reads

posted 12 years ago

53 / 79

She has a point.

These types of things get edited down drastically, which can completely change the tone/phrasing of the subject.

Posted By: FarrahGFE

I never said I deserved anything. I don't believe that anyone deserves anything in life. Also (since this interview seems a bit harsh) this was 3 hours of questions cut into a little over 5 minutes. Without knowing what the questions were- a few of the answers are out of context.

I think this short was extremely well done. I truly believe that my clients know this is a fantasy for them. To think anything else is unrealistic.

*Also I don't have any 8/8 reviews from DC. Must have been higher.

xo

AsianManNOVA 2764 reads

posted 12 years ago

54 / 79

Most of us know this is a job to many providers; we are not that delusional...

To think a 20-something hottie will find a man old enough to be her father attractive unless she has some daddy issue. But since you are getting paid 500 an hour, at least do your job well and give your clients their money's worth. That means not looking at your fingernails and thinking about what color you want to paint them. Instead, look at your client with your lustful bedroom eyes when he is on top of you and fake some moans while you are at it. Frankly, this is the only part of the video I have some problem with. The rest I already knew and don't give a flying fuck about. I am not here to date anyone or find some personal connections. I only expect you to do your best professional job for the money you are getting paid.

Tobi Telford See my TER Reviews 2299 reads

posted 12 years ago

55 / 79

Re: I am sorry but I just busted out in laughter

Both of my parents are doctors, and they are two of the most selfless, generous, and genuinely good people you will ever meet. My mom works for an inner-city clinic, and her patients consist of children and teenagers from low-income families, and she's grossly underpaid. Doesn't matter, though, because she loves kids and loves helping others. My dad works roughly 100 hours/week. He is an absolute god to his patients, I'm always beaming with pride when I hear them talk about how he works tirelessly to improve their quality of life. If someone walks in and has no health insurance, he sees them anyway, gratis. Unlike my mom, he does make a considerable amount of money, but the first time I ever saw him buy something for himself was roughly a year ago. He put seven kids through college (only two of which are his own), and would give a complete stranger the shirt off his back. I remember being a little girl and seeing him hand $100 bills to homeless people. I'd ask him why (and once I got a little older, would suggest that they'd spend it on drugs/alcohol) and he'd simply say, "It doesn't matter. Just a little bit of kindness can change so much."

Of course, there are assholes in every profession, but to paint all physicians with the "self-serving" brush isn't fair, especially to saints like my parents.

Posted By: 808transplant

I know this is off topic .When you even remotely suggested that Doctors and Lawyers "HELP PEOPLE" hahahhaahhahha. Well, unless the Good Doctor works for Doctors Without Borders or Runs a Free Walk in clinic in the Inner city of Baltimore. Maybe if you had said a Nurse, Therapist or even a Paramedic I would have believed you. As far as Lawyers is concerned, I just cant imagine anything good coming from that industry. Can you name me something good they do that is not extremely Self serving? I work in the legal industry so I see them in action on a daily basis.

Nikki_Irish See my TER Reviews 2724 reads

posted 12 years ago

56 / 79

Right, we MAY be feeling that way (sometimes), but we won't tell you...

those are key words right there.

Just pretend for a minute she has a degree and can a job teaching. How many principals would keep her if they found she went on video for the world to see and said 'I hate children. I hate my job. I have everything about this job and children. They suck. All I do while I'm at school supposedly teaching is think about what color I'm going to pain my nails next?'

No profession wants someone representing it with this kind of attitude. And not many would keep her. But this profession is great for her because she doesn't need to do anything but lay back. She doesn't need a degree, intelligence or really anything, just the ability to sleep with men. So, she can say this stuff, represent women who really don't feel this way, and then we all get bashed on the boards by men who think we'd make this video if we could. She can do this because all that matters is her body. And that's okay, because that and a few dollars will get you some Starbuck's and not much else, and most women I know value themselves more than to portray themselves this way.

I personally wouldn't do a video this way because I don't find casting myself in a negative light to be in any way good for me or my job. And, I don't feel that way because I don't waste my life doing things I hate. I have more respect for myself than to do that.

So, this is basically someone with no self respect thinking she's cool and wanting everyone to think that too. Really, we should all just feel sorry for her.

earthshined 2520 reads

posted 12 years ago

57 / 79

we already know that.seeing it or hearing this interview

(It's not a documentary btw) won't change anything.

I hope it wakes up the fools that try to wine and dine escorts for 4.hr dinner dates and overnight s
With this specific type of provider like farrah they're wasting their mone

Nikki_Irish See my TER Reviews 2569 reads

posted 12 years ago

58 / 79

Actually, it IS a documentary...

just told from one person's POV. (see definition of documentary)

And, it would be a shame if, because of this one person, we all get treated the same way.

Trust me, if you actually got to know her, and then some of the rest of us, you'd see she's an anomaly. Most of us aren't at all like her so don't make us pay for her crappy attitude.

eroticspirit 27 Reviews 2718 reads

posted 12 years ago

59 / 79

Re: Most of us know this is a job to many providers; we are not that delusional...

I've said it before and I'll say it again---my experiences have been overwhelmingly positive and the ladies I've seen have by and large been great!! I know it's a job---I know the money is the main focus---that doesn't mean that the job can't be at least SOMEWHAT enjoyable!! I definitely believe that many providers generally like what they do. (I started a web link a few days ago on this subject and a lot of the responses bear this out.)

I find it hard to believe that providers who consistently get great reviews and have a strong presence in the community are DREADING what they do---I don't care what line of work you're in--if you don't enjoy it to some degree you aren't going to do well at it and you're not going to last long---it's really that simple!!

earthshined 2233 reads

posted 12 years ago

60 / 79

Re: Actually, it IS a documentary...That's because you

are a woman.She is a girl.

It is what I expect of the young twentsomethings that's why i don't see them.

Posted By: Nikki_Irish

just told from one person's POV. (see definition of documentary)

And, it would be a shame if, because of this one person, we all get treated the same way.

Trust me, if you actually got to know her, and then some of the rest of us, you'd see she's an anomaly. Most of us aren't at all like her so don't make us pay for her crappy attitude.

twsani 2496 reads

posted 12 years ago

61 / 79

Well, she's obviously playing a lot of hobbyists for fools...

Her average review score is above 9...so either she's lying about the part about being bored during her appts, or the reviewers are really suckers.

Posted By: AsianManNOVA

To think a 20-something hottie will find a man old enough to be her father attractive unless she has some daddy issue. But since you are getting paid 500 an hour, at least do your job well and give your clients their money's worth. That means not looking at your fingernails and thinking about what color you want to paint them. Instead, look at your client with your lustful bedroom eyes when he is on top of you and fake some moans while you are at it. Frankly, this is the only part of the video I have some problem with. The rest I already knew and don't give a flying fuck about. I am not here to date anyone or find some personal connections. I only expect you to do your best professional job for the money you are getting paid.

AsianManNOVA 2593 reads

posted 12 years ago

62 / 79

Let's not get into grade inflation. OK? It's the fact of life on TER. eom

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TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 2784 reads

posted 12 years ago

63 / 79

She said most of us (regardless of age) not most of us 30 and up but carry on -e-

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yon 53 Reviews 2585 reads

posted 12 years ago

64 / 79

Well said!!! - eom

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HoeCheck 2437 reads

posted 12 years ago

65 / 79

Re: Rather telling but nothing surprising also proves how lost young people are

Yes she's lost because she openly admitted to not liking to fuck your old ugly ass. Yes that makes her lost, but at the end of the day YOU'RE paying someone to fuck you. Dude, go humble yourself.

Posted By: earthshined

she doesnt know wtf she's doing.

WaxingPoetic 2680 reads

posted 12 years ago

66 / 79

She's lost because she hates the men she signed up to fuck and then bitches about it. makes sense.

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Bailey_Bleu818 See my TER Reviews 2098 reads

posted 12 years ago

67 / 79

Ms. Farrah..I commend you for your honesty

And as you stated-these are your views and not the community. You do not need to make a statement for the whole. I also think and know for a fact there are plenty of ladies who feel the same and do not have the balls to say it.

They would rather stay with the fantasy and portray their absolute love for all their clients. So all you ladies who say you pick and select your clients for chemistry only...how about seeing your clients for free/off the clock?

And all you guys who think your ladies adore you so much, start asking for an extra time. BECAUSE we all know when you adore someone and have great chemistry YOU don't mind seeing them for free.
Great video ...EOM

Sidney Starr See my TER Reviews 2621 reads

posted 12 years ago

68 / 79

Re: Please feel free to stop waiting & make your own documentary about your refreshing experience

I highly respect the women in the documentary but I don't need to film by own because I don't want too. I am not putting anyone down, it is just what I thought. I happen to think some of the girls are awesome women that I would love to meet.

Posted By: WondersOfTheWrld

as a whore.

Until then, please do respect the various takes on this industry.

As I said above, while I didn't enter this industry for negative reasons, I have and will always recognize the various reasons in which all women in this industry enter. It's important for them to share their experiences; good, bad and the ugly.

If anyone has an issue with how some people choose to share their experience, then stand up and share your own. Otherwise, please do recognize the women (and their entry experiences) in this industry are widely varied and may not always fit your own, which doesn't mean their experience should be silenced!

My experience may have been positive, but I will NEVER attempt to act as if some women's experiences aren't as important as mine, and they don't have to represent me, whatsoever. If I feel so inclined to share my side of the story, I'll do so. Until then, I won't criticize those who stand up and express themselves.

dangerjay 2337 reads

posted 12 years ago

69 / 79

I might need to find Farrah

Shit, I do this because I'm turned on by the idea of banging a girl who can't stand the idea that I'm banging her. Now I want to see Farrah more than ever.

Posted By: beltwaybandit

Anyone remember Farrah, young spinner who used to tour DC? Came across a short documentary about her, google "farrah gfe documentary". I don't think she comes to DC anymore but after watching this , kudos to you if you can have an appointment with her and still maintain the gfe fantasy

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AsianManNOVA 2671 reads

posted 12 years ago

70 / 79

Just make sure she doesn't look at her nails and you will be OK. eom

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sophiaLA See my TER Reviews 2611 reads

posted 11 years ago

71 / 79

First a round of applause...

to me for reading through this entire thread. I'd like to thank...

I don't take issue with this. Farrah is a human being expressing herself and that's good enough for me. However...I can't believe nobody mentioned what I thought was the worst part. She said EVERY SESSION GOES EXACTLY THE SAME!!! That's factory kitty

I'm newly independent and look forward to leaving agency life behind and having control of who is on the other end of a knock. If she's seeing that many clients a day maybe she has to become
robot-sex-kittenish. That's a lot of personalities to contend with. So she deals by being the same in every session. It must work for her if she's so highly reviewed.

I personally would die of boredom if that's how I went through a tour. I like to have fun with this job (remember when sex was fun people?). I match the energy and enthusiasm my friend brings to the table.

Some sessions are so loving and tender I feel like Demi Moore in front of a clay pot in the movie Ghost. Sensual and caring.

Some sessions are acrobatic competitive marathons and I feel like I'm in Mr. and Mrs. Smith. It's awesome

Some sessions have so very little to do with the physical. I get to connect mentally and I get to show off my brains!!!

Some sessions just click and days even weeks later I'll be out with friends and find myself gazing off in the distance with a smile on my face even though I'm supposed to be paying attention to the very pressing matter a friend is venting about.

Anyway, I'm just a humanist in general. I am fascinated with the interactions I have in and out of this industry. I'm never making a grocery list during missionary (but kudos on multitasking). I'm not better than anyone it's just that I don't want to doze through my life. Even if a client is an ass, I can be his kill them with kindness lesson of the day, or I can play "how fast can the ass finish ra ra ra!!!". (makes for great stories and commiserating with provider friends over cocktails). Either way I'm in the moment.

Present.

WondersOfTheWrld 2648 reads

posted 11 years ago

72 / 79

Nice job turning this in to all about you. And about every session being the same....

here's great clarification from Farah: http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=642295&boardID=12&page=1#642295

Every appointment is the same in regards to setting up the date, meeting the client (and presumedly having some sort of sex) and then leaving the client. She didn't say anything about what happens during the session being the exact same every time. I can totally see how this was taken out of context.

But nice job using this as a marketing opp to show how low volume you are and how you could never see as many guys as Farah; how your sessions are all unique and you are always in the moment.

Good work.

kanpachi 115 Reviews 1939 reads

posted 11 years ago

73 / 79

Re: Another slightly different point of view....

I can't agree with SAXMAN more. I think we have lots in common (besides many providers we have seen I have seen Farrah several times before she moved to Vegas years ago. I remember she was bitching about DC gens a lot especially cancelations and no shows. One day I made an appointment with her and confirmed in the morning and she gave me the hotel info. Thirty minutes later I arrived and called her but she never answered. I was waiting for her for one hour outside of the hotel and of course called her many times wondering what happened to her. I finally gave up and later on received text from her complaining I called her too many times. She said she dropped her phone and cracked the screen and couldn't answered the call. How could I know? She didn't apology at all and made me feel like I did something bad. Eventually I calmed down and tried to understand the situation but she got so upset on me and stopped answering my emails and text since then. So I had very bad taste in my mouth at the end. I think I knew what kind of person she was even before all that happened but I have seen her more than once because I enjoyed. She might have been looking her nails but I didn't notice. I usually don't see same providers again if she is too much business like no matter how beautiful she is means no chemistry. Between us. If you have seen numbers of providers, you should know there are some providers who just do for money but also who enjoy doing besides money. If you watch Farrah's video as a non hobbist or non provider, it is just short documentary of young girl. Think as it was made in foreign country. Why need to be so upset? She was just honest and it is the reality. Those documentary are often same kind of cold, flat, serious tone. It is not an entertainment movie. Even though I had bad experience with her in the past but the video didn't upset me at all because we all should know the reality. Once some provider told me after we became kind of close that in most of cases money is the major reason young beautiful girls stay with older guys. That is the reality though good providers don't make us feel that way. Guys are stupid so keep going back to see those good providers. I don't think it was a good move for her business to make the video but it is her problem, not ours. That is just one of young girl's life story and I can't believe so many people are taking it as a real big deal. She is a young girl who may or may not know what she is doing but I think we should just leave her alone.

bradleybeal 2716 reads

posted 11 years ago

74 / 79

whatever

I don't see the big deal here at all. She is expressing an attitude that many providers have. If you have read her reviews or seen her posts this shouldn't surprise you at all. She's been pretty consistent actually. If the detached experience she provides isn't what you are looking for their our other providers that offer something different.

sophiaLA See my TER Reviews 2324 reads

posted 11 years ago

75 / 79

Re: Nice job turning this in to all about you. And about every session being the same....

Posted By: WondersOfTheWrld

here's great clarification from Farah: http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=642295&boardID=12&page=1#642295

Every appointment is the same in regards to setting up the date, meeting the client (and presumedly having some sort of sex) and then leaving the client. She didn't say anything about what happens during the session being the exact same every time. I can totally see how this was taken out of context.

But nice job using this as a marketing opp to show how low volume you are and how you could never see as many guys as Farah; how your sessions are all unique and you are always in the moment.

Good work.

Sorry, though the discussion did begin about her particular public verbal blundering it's evolved into whether all providers think about their nail polish during a session. That was my two cents about my experience. But if my little comment about my provider experience bothers you I'm sure you can see why the video has sparked this conversation that's now less about her than it is about the hobbyist provider experience in general.

Considering some of the things she's being called on here I'm not sure why my two cents bothered you dear. As far as using this as a marketing op...I would say hate the game, not the player but it seems you guys are already there.

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docdealer69 59 Reviews 2667 reads

posted 11 years ago

76 / 79

Re: I am sorry but I just busted out in laughter

Thanks for this response Tobi - we should connect when you're in Cleveland.

elitegray See my TER Reviews 2897 reads

posted 11 years ago

77 / 79

What a business killer ! EOM

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elitegray See my TER Reviews 2471 reads

posted 11 years ago

78 / 79

BUT 7 a day ? Wth, why ?

Just sounded like a lot of work and no fun ! Who needs to make "that" much money to have to see up to 7 men a day. If she doesnt enjoy it, She should raise her rates, and work less. It will be hard to do something else, and support her income she is used too. Best of luck either way.

P.s. She doesnt speak for all of us. I love my friends, and memories.

earthshined 3070 reads

posted 11 years ago

79 / 79

Re: Rather telling but nothing surprising also proves how lost young people are

you dont know what the hell youre talking about at all

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