I prefer just plain, real and correct cash to laid down somewhere within view. Envelopes I don't like because who knows what is inside. In the years I have been providing I have been ripped off a few times. A small few and the envelope was always involved. I throw then out anyway so I just prefer payment sans envelope. I feel like now I want to add a disclaimer on my site that says NO ENVELOPES. 
Same here! I have been ripped off several times, and it was always when envelopes were involved! I feel the same way about the disclaimer. I thought about it! LOL
Posted By: sexyadele
Same here! I have been ripped off several times, and it was always when envelopes were involved!
So, it's the envelope's fault?
I am fine putting the money in an envelope or not, just try to do what the provider says is her preference on her website.
However, I will note that the two times I have dropped the envelope or futzed around and knocked it off the table, I was happy it was not just a stack of bills, that would have gone everywhere. Of course, providers could solve that problem with a "no klutz" rule, but I have a feeling there are alot of us out there so that might hurt business.
I really don't find it a big deal to find an envelope. For few bucks I can buy them at the store, or if I go to my bank, I can get a few for free. But what baffles me is some women would insist on them. They should insist on the opposite -to lay their donation in plain sight. A guy could technically put garbage in the envelope and no one would no until he is gone. Yeah try going to police with that.
Now if you have developed trust with the guy and you are doing some overnight appointment, and the donation is something like $1500-2000 then I can understand using envelope for ease of use.
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Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
I really don't find it a big deal to find an envelope. For few bucks I can buy them at the store, or if I go to my bank, I can get a few for free. But what baffles me is some women would insist on them. They should insist on the opposite To lay their donation in plain sight. A guy could technically put garbage in the envelope and no one would no until he is gone. Yeah try going to police with that.
Now if you have developed trust with the guy and you are doing some overnight appointment, and the donation is something like $1500-2000 then I can understand using envelope for ease of use.
Well said ....
willing to accept donation in gold and silver. She is quite libertarian in her politics, and hence the love for precious metals, and overall distrust/disdain towards paper currency. I don't blame her one bit
Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
willing to accept donation in gold and silver. She is quite libertarian in her politics, and hence the love for precious metals, and overall distrust/disdain towards paper currency. I don't blame her one bit.
Did you mean one ounce?
I always try to "wash" my hands and leave the envelope near the sink. When I come out, the lady takes a minute or two to "freshen" up aka verify the donation.
Why don't you just leave it in the room so she can count it while you're in the bathroom otherwise preoccupied
That is the best to do !!!
Will discreetly count the cash when her client is not in the room. Truth is I believe that many providers have simple faith that when a client comes in and pays them that the money is all there. Getting ripped off or shorted is always a surprise. Never expected.
I personally don't ask for cash to be laid out and I don't ask for envelopes either. The gentlemen always take care of business first and that is how it should be. Yes it's Pay for Play , we both know that. But it doesn't have to be transactional. Providers are there to provide a fantasy and a good time!
So if you prefer to use am envelope go for it. I have also received some really nice greeting cards from clients that out the money in the card. If you feel better placing cash on the table it bathroom counter then so be it.
On another note. If a girl were to get busted and an envelope with money inside were found it would be used against her in her case. Sadly.
Regardless, the funds should be counted before or after the session while both parties are still there, discretely or in front of the guest. Waiting till the guest leaves is a gamble. I've encountered only one provider (out of a 100 or so) who has counted the funds in front me but she got ripped off before.
I personally don't like the provider to count in front of me. People can say what they want, it's a turn off for me but it won't stop any session from going forward 
Leaving cash in plain sight with no envelope just feels low class to me, like I'm in a crackhouse hotel room or something. It's just how I "feel" regardless of how my mind should know better that it's a business transaction between two consenting adults
'm kidding. I have never short changed anyone, ever.
I often put the envelope inside a gift. Sometimes I use a gift card.
You have both done your research on the other party, which you should be doing, there is no need for the dog and pony show. I walk in and put the cash with no envelope on the first convenient flat surface I come to. If she has a problem with after checking my datecheck, p411 and refs then she is too prentious and/or to paranoid for me anyway
Let me start with I go with what the provider asks -- it's all about keeping each other comfortable with the first meeting.
That said I've been told use an envelope and leave it in plain sight, leave it in the bathroom and no direction other than use the envelope. I've been told at times to place the donation in plain sight either before or after (which I though a bit unusual).
One time I was even asked up front by the provider (new girl at an agency I'd used before) who then -- while I was sitting in my birthday suit and she still "dressed" -- left the room. I was lughing at myself in the mirror thinking blue suits with badges were coming back! That was not the case! and I think the girl just didn't know the currency.
So it seems to me the when and how to make the donation is a largely personal/subjective choice. I don't quite understand it. It's not like it's going to change anything if things go wrong legally. I do understand the problematic nature of the envelope for the provider. One hopes that those taking advantage of cheating with an envelope are weeded out on a largely permanent basis.
haha amen girl! though i did get donation tucked inside a box of fancy chocolates this week. that was COMPLETELY acceptable as well
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It's on my etiquette page as well...
I like when the guys get creative with it, though! I had one client who tucked the donation into an issue of Tattoo Magazine, which was pretty cool.
I think the main reason most of us just opt to ask for an envelope is to avoid being handed a stack of money. That's always a little awkward.
