Has a date set up for this afternoon, tried calling and emailing to confirm and haven't been able to get in touch with anyone.

Side note, anyone available this afternoon/early evening in Tyson's?

several AMPs being hit in the last 24hrs.....I'm no muse...BUT !!

"extortion and induced fear of future acts of violence against CLASSY employees and prostitutes in order to maintain and control his prostitution business"

Whoa..!

it looks like operation has been in place for a while.. remember when Prime DC 'gave' his business away to DMV Indies?.. guess what? .. that was a setup !..

guys out there who seen these ladies.. good knowing you! I think you will be getting calls shortly...

not that they don't need to suffer ... but when you mess with the feds, hell they might even blame JFK on you...it is guilty until proven otherwise

if a guy got a BJ here and there and got laid .. probably nothing to worry about but lessons learned is to stay away from organized crime

the others who have been seeing their escorts often and also been writing mini and being a shill for a discounted rate... well they won't get out of that easy...

also if any of their clients happen to have security clearance or upthere in the food chain..they will get it too...that is just how it works..

I made contact, and was told that it would be booking as usual this afternoon.
No explanation as to what happened yesterday, but was told the ladies would be
Taking bookings soon. Let's hope so.

Will not be allowed to be posted here. That also includes copies of indictments or links that have links that have links that lead to them.

Take the exact phrase pasted by Princess Puss and google  it. You will get what you are looking for.

'brandishing a firearm', money laundering, racketeering, falsely stating income to purchase a luxury car. I always knew they were nothing more than pimps.... what more proof do we need?  

Who in their right mind threatens a lady with a firearm & assaults her?  Is that what a "Classy" agency would do?

Frankly, I'm glad they went down if you ask me. People like these need to be in jail.

By the way, if anyone was a client with them your information is in danger now. The indictment document stated they went to the extent of asking each prostitute whom a particular client has seen to find out more information about the client beyond the verification info he provided. They are known to have freely given up client information for their best interest and most likely will do it again in order to save their own ass. THAT you can count on.

Where are the shills now?

With all that has been known about these agencies and the way they were run. it is no surprise what is happening here.  Looks as if the Feds, in conjunction with local law enforcement, including Md, Va and DC have been watching them for a while.  Means all you personal data is now in their hands., quite a juicy client list, I am afraid!  That is what happens when you deal with agencies, becomes a federal matter, falling in the catagory of racatteering!  Ouch!

Wow I just read all 33 pages. It looks like they have been under the microscope for quite some time.

To some of you, this might be a new term. This refers back to a type of pimping dubbed “Gorrilla Pimping”. This is the type of pimp who would keep his girls in line by beating them, threatening them or even killing them.
The Gorilla Pimp only knows one way to communicate, “It is my way or the dead way.” It is effective even if it does seem cruel. Other pimps steer clear of the Gorilla Pimps because they are likely to set you on fire in the middle of the street just to make a point. But their tactics work. Girls are too terrified to leave or disobey and competing pimps would sometimes just move to another neighborhood.

from that aspect...human nature. You guys are awesome and I do not want to see anyone suffer, ever!
Also, I highly highly advise against using an agency on this area just in case (actually more like you shouldn't...promise)...no need to go down in the cross fire that will continue to happen..yep
Please be safe everyone!!

I'm guessing alot of guys are freaking out right now. As the court filing shows, LE has been following these agencies since 2009. I'm guessing they decided to move, based on the violent offenses cited in the court filing. I doubt they would start going after clients on the agency's phone lists or records as (1) there are probably hundreds of names and phone numbers of clients, (2) it will cost the government alot of money to pursue all clients and (3) like said above, they arrested the source.

Anyone aware of anywhere else we can find information on cases where clients on a contact list were gone after when an agency was arrested? I'm sure there are many guys on here who may have hobbies 6 months ago, then decided they didn't want to risk it anymore and stopped.

Who the clients were. They will be of no assistance to Leo.

JB

Good Point. The intention of my post was to say LE will likely not criminally go after people on the list. Publishing the list of names is another story...

are money laundering, racketeering and firearms, so maybe not too concerned with proving who shtupped whom.

This guy I know called these girls on a number of occasions, and the Feds can now prove it. So what? Just a phone call.

them, this is the icing on the cake. Luckily for me, I've only been on the scene for only a year. I tried calling them a month ago for screening, and this rude bitch was really insolent with me. I was flabbergasted that an agency can act in such a way that I despise them ever since that day. I wasn't haven none of that, and told her to fuck off. I knew that their plight would only crumble over time, and it was obvious with all the complaints from their clients and providers. I could actually forecast their demise.

See, the LE aren't stupid, and they know that these agencies have been around for many years. They know this shit, but, what prompted their attention was Classy and DMV bold attempts of control. LE has the efficacy to prosecute these agencies at any time, but, they never had a reasons to, but, their recent complaints prompted them to act. Lesson of the day, don't fucking think your the shit, and start walking around like your all high and might, and that people need you, you need us mother fuckers! So, act like it!

Pimping a girl out with a firearm, I mean, come one now, what kind of shit is this? Girls are just sweet babies, and that is no way to treat a women. Who the fuck wants to associate themselves with criminals that abuses women. These fucking pimps are nothing more than soulless bastards.

About your comment about them having employment info, I never give my employment info out to anyone. First, I can't unless if it is approved with a letter head stationary, and two, I work for the government, and that would have jeopardize the hell out of my career. No pussy is good enough to jeopardize my career, so, fuck that! I may be a yuppy, but I ain't no body's puppy.

of these 2 agencies........I would be worried. Looks like they kept a lot of info which now belongs to the cops!

7 digit figures in cash that blew my mind when I saw it, plenty of 6 digit exotic cars, they were dumb enough to put large sums of shit in the Ba*k every day, and that was just the beginning.

Apparently, they were doing something right. I drive a stinky 1972 rusty beat down toyota santa fea that don't even start half the time, and the rear end is of ugly color of dookie green. My fucking carpet got dookie stains all over it and rats have been eating the furniture in my car. I am embarass as fuck driving around with that piece of shit because it is loud and noisy as shit. Shit, I need to upgrade to a car that is at least $500 to keep up appearances with all you affluent girls and gents out there.

Anyways, they were doing it real good. I thought I had it good, but damn! BTW, can some please come to my house and fix my fucking roof leak. Every time I try to sleep, the fucking rain drops would fall in my noise and irritate the hell out of my eyes. One time, I was sleeping naked and the roof collapse and all the bird shit that was soaking on the roof covered my genital area.

Either the pimp slit it 50/50 or another high figure, cause the dough was rolling in faster then they can deposited it. Read the article, they are a bunch of dumb fuckers. I laughed at how brazen they were.

So other than a couple of statutes relating to travel across state lines, what is fed interest in prostitution and its clientele?

JB

Depending on the volume of calls they might drop by work or home and ask why you were in touch with them. Of course it is best to STFU. But in the past the folks with the questions have chosen embarrassing times and methods of asking to chat with folks.

would be the topic of interest.

Individual clients?

JB

I still wouldnt want my info/name associated with any of this!

The agency may not tell her his name, BUT girls know a WHOLE lot more about the client himself.
Have the girl talk a little bit about the client and the agency now has much more info about you.

The first 10 minutes is almost always introduction: talking, talking, talking. What I'm referring to here is that the agency bookers / owners asked the girls specific stuff about the client they met in order to get more information ABOUT the client. Agency bookers/owners might not tell the girl his name but the clients tell her a whole lot about himself anyway.

Just an example:

5'9" about 200 pounds, italian/croatian, 40 years old, has a 6 inch dick, has light complexion, takes enhancers, lived in Russia for a few years and then lived in Alaska, then started up a trading company, divorced one, remarried, have 2 kids, lives in Bethesda Maryland. etc.

I think that particularly good clients might be contacted by officials "seeking information". The seeking information rationale could also be a cover for creating maximum embarrassment. Shake the tree and see if any apples fall.

Retouching photos. Now I think we can all agree that is a serious offense. LOL

40 million as well as thousands in other assets in under 3 years....whether its  60/40 or 40/60 something doesn't add up.!
May be...Maybe not.
The math isnt there...
That didnt include the the salaries (probably enormous given the need the insane rides they had, I'd guess tat thu paod themselves very well) of those running the agency.

Jus Sayin and keepin it real..thats all

Ok, I'm first dumb, second don't live in DC.. Where can I find the article that people are talking about. What has happened to people below the owner, like the schedulers. Has the national or local news broadcasted this? How soon will the client/provider list be published? My guess is they already have been cross checking client list with government employee list. Wouldn't want to be one with a security clearance. I found it interesting they followed air travel of providers. As I know, it's not against the law to fly, but crossing state lines for a criminal act, I guess warrants that. How do they prove there was a criminal act here.  Guess that's abdumb question on my part. Money exchange !!

Too funny. Retouching photos! Thanks for the good laugh.

Now we all know it's VERY official when it is specifically stated on the indictment #15.

LMFAO!!!

you got to ask yourself the question how much pressure can you take and how much $$s can you spend trying to stay quiet! ..

if you have nothing to hide and have not done anything then talk... but if you have questions about whatever you have done then its a good idea to

a. evaluate your world (wife, SO, work, ..etc)
b. Can you afford $5K to $10K in legal fees

if a and b are OK.. then stay quiet and have the lawyer talk for you ..

Running an agency is one thing, a lot of people do in the area, but pimping girls out with fire arms, threats? Just WTF is that about?

We're gentlemen, not animals.
Sure we appreciate a beautiful women and we like to sleep with them too.
We are gentlemen who respect women, not criminals.
And we prefer to spend a mutually enjoyable time despite the one-sidedness nature of this business.
Sure, we may be engaging in a misdemeanor act but we're not felons.  
Hope they get the maximum penalty allowable.  

Here's laughing at you Gerald and Gene, you no-good PIMPS!  Hope you guys get what you deserve for all the shit you put your girls through and all the deceptive shit you gave to many hobbyists.

Big Bubba's gonna do to you what you did to these ladies.
Well, something tells me you'll enjoy it.

in tight waters with LE, and yet, no one is sticking up for them for the very same reasons' that has been posted on the RO board.

Anyways, a good analogy of this would be comparing episode 3 of season 6 of Jersey Shore to Classy, it was Mike the "Situation" and some other dude's birthday. They both were born on the same day of same month, so, technically, they both should be rewarded with a dinner and birthday cake. However, the other dude was rewarded by his friends and close ones, while they totally ignored Mike even though it was his birthday too. As a matter of fact, no one came to see Mike that day, and everyone came to see the other dude. Why? Because Mike was an asshole, and no one likes an asshole nor will they defend them.

Man, reading this thread is better than watching the soap opera's. I haven't been this keen and excited in a while Cheers bro!

It is a KNOWN fact that agencies are nothing more than glorified pimps and that the only way they can make profit is to schedule as many appointments per day for each of their girls as possible, without any regard for said girls preferences.

Day after day you gentlemen debated on this very board about what time of the day to schedule in order not to be #10 of the day.

That means you were very well aware of how overworked the girls were.  Did you ever wonder what  makes a girl accept that #10 instead of calling it quits for the day?

No, as long as there were no visible signs of abuse you prefer to pretend that no abuse is taking place.  

SMH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

and especially about the girls they've grown fond of.....I'm sure this has the DC men's blood boiling!!!..
Be nice to have your turn with these thugs, huh

to anonymously providing any info that may assist the cops/Feds in prosecuting these sik fuks!!!

to know if the clients noticed and signs of abuse and/or witnessed any abuse. That's the sort of info that is of use for LE to more readily secure these ass clowns go down even harder!
Whom you are of little concern to them when they have have theae sik fuks abusing helpless females.
Also, client list that've been previously exposed if previous cases don't involve trafficking and abuse of young girls!!

make his/her job harder and see where that gets you.
This is what separates the boys from the men!!
One must consider all those involved and do what's best for man-kind as a whole an not for ones own selfish agenda.
It's what's right.
I'm not saying you needto implicate yourself bit you can damn well do what I right for others!

Thought it for the Mr. G-Pimp.

I want to talk to a lawyer . . . then they must stop questioning.  You have the unqualified right to the protections of the Fifth Amendment - use them.  Ultimately you (meaning Everyman) may want to cooperate with the police or law enforcement - but you cannot be harmed by having a lawyer handle those negotiations on your behalf.  The lawyer may be able to arrange immunity.

You wouldn’t operate on yourself; you would have a doctor do it.  Same analogy here.  

What I suppose that some need to fear is what the indictment refers to as the “spiral notebook containing records”.  That may be worse for the providers than for the clients.  The government will match those records against what the ladies have reported on their taxes.  Tax evasion, anyone?  

Court records show that everyone from Classy/DMV has been detained since their arrests.  And they will be until at least 2:00 p.m. tomorrow, when they appear for their detention hearing.  So unless they have a telephone link to their jail cells (not a farfetched thought in the third world), they have not been speaking to anyone via telephone.  So if they have not, . . . then who is?

What is interesting is that all the defendants have court appointed attorneys or federal public defenders.  You guessed it - your tax dollars at work.  Is that not paradoxical in light of what are alleged to be the gross receipts of this business?  The forfeiture part of the indictment refers to a total of $4,000,000 as to which the government will seek forfeiture.

The most interesting parts of this may lay ahead.  The indictment refers to witnesses A and B and to UCC-1.  Will these individuals testify at trial?  Stay tuned.

You miss read it was 4 not 40

Maybe I misunderstood the part you found interesting, but with all their accounts seized, even if they had previously retained a lawyer, his financial records would be scrutinized to the point where he would no longer defend them, no? There are no cash payments at that stage in the game.

I do hope that you are right.  

As for me, my main reason would be that I don't really trust MC LE. The extent they go to make themselves look good is mind boggling.

I was wondering if any clients have heard any accusations of violence against the ladies, from the laddies themselves ?

I've gotten in hot water on other boards for saying this, but hobbyists are the biggest hypocrites on Earth. To talk badly about the men supplying them pussy?

I remember a few years back guys would make a big board deal about contributing to some organization in DC that helps escorts change their ways. How about you keeping your dick in your pants?

I don't watch no Jersey Shore!

Come on, their customers are no different from you.  What would you do if a lady said there was violence? At the least you wouldn't go back.  You can't buy Aston Martins if no one goes back.

In practice, saying absolutely probably would not help. But whatever you do, do not lie.

Are you a hypocrite for buying books from them?

The bookstore management is to blame, not the customers.

Lets get some perspective, people.

Besides, I haven't used these agencies in a long while. I stopped using them ever since finding out about their sleazy ways even though I'm verified under different names.

These two agencies in question stand above the rest and not in a good way.

I know many agencies who don't pull out a gun on their girls.

I know many agencies who don't book mind-boggling number of guys a day giving the girls very little time to shower in between.

This agency punished their girls in different ways for various reasons,
sometimes by not giving them clients for a day or two.

Just do a search and yi shall find former girls revealing these stories.

and using them a lot judging from the cars and the amount of money mentioned in the indictment.

And none of us knows what goes on behind closed doors at ANY agency........even the ones with good reps!

I told you, calling out the Johns has gotten me in trouble before.......oh well!

I know this is a business and all, but i think sometimes men in this hobby tend to lose track of the fact that these are actual human beings we are referring to...not some store or restaurant located in the middle of the city.  The way that some of these reviews are written up, I would've sworn i was about to check out the latest grand opening or something.

Agency, madam, pimp, runner .. all of them make their living off other people selling their sexual services.

A pimp who threatens with a gun is not the same as a "technical pimp by definition".

It's guys like you who think that everyone's the same because by definition they fall under some definition.

I probably won't be responding to your ignorant responses any further.

Do we really need to explain that women are actual human beings?  Tell us something we didn't know.

It was just a quick example to prove a point.

I wasn't going to sit there for 10 minutes trying to come up with a better example but if you have a better one, feel free to provide one instead of whining about political correctness.  

The employees was compared to the girls, the same human beings.  

amount of bust for a State the size of my back yard....seriously

In regards to "trust MC LE" well, I'm unaware of anything that would leave me with that sort of  impression.......AM I missing something..?

I haven't heard of many (if any) bust that didn't include some form of cruelty ex: trafficking, underage girls (no, you do not and will never hear of these. The law prohibits this and goes to great links to ensure that its never mentioned so others will not be able to connect the dots..(good idea to me), forced labor, telling/"recruiting" Latino's they can come work in American at their such and such hotel as a House Keeper or something to that nature only to put these girls in a position of being destitute with no resources.... then whore them out for pennies, literally...thats just so mean. etc etc...

Toss a few words into google along with your County/City/State and see what you get. The FBI's website has tons of similiar bust that haven't made the news. America is the land of public information (with the exception of minors).

Either way...glad they arent chasing my ass and those sik fuks are getting ass raped by their cell mate, Willie>.......hahahha

conscience.
That's my impression of your comment.
Disturbing at best and an odd topic to toss out there...really odd

exception, I think not.
There may be a few good agencies but what stops any of them for selling their own ass for a living instead of someone else's ass/vagina? That's something I've never understood...maybe they need to put their toes in the pool to see how the water feels.
Jus Sayin.....you just might not know, yet...never underestimate another.

Ohh...thanks...was a long read...whew
Hell, 4 million is a lot....wow, thats a lot of booty!!!

Unlike you, I'd sell my only pair of shoes and my last coca-cola if I even thought it MIGHT help another HUMAN..but thats just me. I feel pretty strong about it too!!

Maybe one would prefer that nothing be done and just let it be....not gonna happen.

That's not what I said.  What I said - in different words - was that tax dollars were being used for the lawyers for the defendants (operators of the establishment - a/k/a the persons arrested).  That has not a thing to do with what is or is not done for the victims.  Sorry that went over your head.  I just assumed that everyone knew that a reference to public defender implies taxpayer funding for their counsel.

You are absolutely right about the importance of not lying.  On the other hand, the old saying about the road to Hades being paved with good intentions applies equally to those who attempt to represent themselves.  Sometimes a non-lawyer is successful in representing himself or herself . . . and sometimes one finds a twenty dollar bill lying on the street.  Absolute statements are possible as to very few matters in life, but this is not among that narrow category.  One is always better (in legal matters) with a lawyer.  A good lawyer is not cheap (but then again neither is a good doctor or accountant), but the old saying about an ounce of prevention being worth a pound of cure is fully applicable here.

Am I reading this right that Classy was indicted and DMVIndys is just laying low right now?  Or was DMVI also taken down?  Thanks for clearing this up...

Let me tell you, this group was NEVER CLASSY, I did some work for them when they first started out, after the second day, I told them to go to hell, the result: they threathen me like street pimps, and that's all they ever was.

Second, they ran a useless operation, way to greedy and sloppy.

Third, I never trusted people who IRON their jeans, and they did!!!

Fourth, yes, is you are somebody or something, you got a reason to worry, but if you a small time JOHN like most people on this board, you don't have to worry.

Fifth, if you post on this board regularly, well, most likely LE already knows who you are, as this board is full of LE.

Sixth, sweet dreams