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Classic Supply Demand
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What you have is a classic supply/demand situation with several variables thrown in.  As a traveller around the country, I think DC prices are near the top end and have held up well (hence all the visiting ladies) though I'm sure many hobbyists have at least cut back their hobbying or gone to lesser cost alternatives.  I'd be curious as to your success at different price points just to learn how elastic the pricing model really is here.  Travel to Ohio/Indiana/Michigan and you'll typically see prices 2/3 of the DC metro area with what I would consider the same quality.
All that said, I always appreciate a good discount ; )

Anyone who is familiar with me knows about my creative specials and funny ways I market. One thing which is not as visable are the specials I offer my mailing list participants.

But here where I get confused. While naming no names some gentleman often gripe about ladies being too expensive. Either she is out of his price range or simiply he feels she does not warrant such a price. So when offered a special rate  do these gentleman jump on it? I find that often the answer is no. Even for my regular clients who see me all the time a special rate does not necessarily motive them.

I know part of it is timing, but I offer specials often enough where one could find something to suit him when convenient. I see other ladies off specials often as well, and in talking to some of them, I am not sure if discounts/specials work as well as one might think.

So gentleman, what is going on?

Kisses,
Vanica Love

HOCKEYMIKE2181 reads

My lack of interest in discounts for providers I would not regularly see is based on my experiences in all service industries, not just the hobby.

If my favorite beer is $2.00 cheaper at one store than others I'm going to the store with the cheaper price because I know that beer is the same no matter what I pay for it.  But if Joe normally provides service "X" for $500 an hour but for a short time is willing to take $350 an hour, I worry that Joe may not put the same effort into serice "X" at the discounted price.

However if I have used Joe before than I already know what to expect so the discount is a bonus to me.

Just my two cents.

Those gentlemen ( I use the term loosely) that are complaining about prices just need to move on and not complain about it. especially not to any providers.

Im not sure about why some guys arent jumping for the great rates. The fact that we are in a recession, and some guys just don't hobby as much as they used too.

Maybe I'll cum see you lol

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Ahh yes a true "white Knight" I knew one would be riding into town soon...

For me it's just to much of a waste of time to figure out what special is running for the day.  I also don't get the post that a provider is running a special but you have to go to her site to hunt it down. I just don't do it - they waste my valuable time.

If your serious about getting more business make the pricing easy to read and follow.  You look more stable and reliable by fixing a price point and sticking with it.  If business is not what you want raise or lower it at increments of $25 until your getting the numbers needed.

I believe there is peer pressure to maintain a high hourly rate, so as to compare well to other providers. Find your niche and exploit that service to command a higher rate.

If you want to discount something - give it to the guy thats easy to deal with and keeps coming back.      Just my Op/Ed.

to the marketplace

I can understand that you may not wish to lower the rates to a point where the biz volume satisfies your goals.

But you cannot influence the behavior of the marketplace other than by price point / perceived quality / availability

Perhaps doing some touring to check out the dynamics of other markets might be a good idea if your biz plan and offerings are not performing as you wish in the DC market.

Truly - I wish you the best of luck....

GTM

When traveling to different markets the higher price is necessary to make the trip fiscally beneficial.

At home where I don't have as much overhead costs I can offer a lower rate. So I have specials.

As far as "hunting down" I think I make things fairly clear. I do at time make people do a little math, but I actually did that on purpose for various reasons. If someone can't figure out 50% off - I don't know what to say. LOL

Kisses,
Vanica

the problem would be timing.

50% of my first time encounters are unsatisfactory because of factors not found in the lady's reviews. So I tend to prefer repetition. But I will never break a planned date in order to take advantage of a special.

The one thing that most providers don't look at is what they've posted previously, and dictating the terms clearly as to the price TODAY.

  Even for you Van, I can find 3 different prices via simple google.

   Have been tempted as the beauty is there...

There are times when I'd like to schedule with a lady and things don't work out. Work gets in the way or family issues come up. Often it's before I can schedule time or even while I'm trying to set something up. I end up canceling before things get set in stone.

Price has no bearing on if I choose to see someone... it has to do with the value of their services for the $! If someone provides a good service and offers a discount I would likely take the opportunity but if it is a so-so provider or someone that provides mediocre services then I'm inclined to pass... Not worth it in the long run. I have no problem forking over for a good time but when you see girls charging over 400 or 500 and do not provide GFE or PSE I am not inclined to partake... In my experience most of the 1K + girls are a waste... they are usually too high maintenance to actualy relax and enjoy the time together; However, I'm sure there are exceptions to that rule!

I base it on the review and how well I know someone... in truth my preference is to go with personalized discounts... Often I have seen ladies numerous times and they offer "incentives" to return! Obviously these are not advertised but they do go a long way with me! ;) I like that bit of personalized touch!

My .02

Fog

At this point in the hobby I've got some minimum requirements... Regardless of the discounts I am more apt to see those that are sure to follow through with their great service!

yborcityfla2499 reads

and many times boil down to chemistry/YMMV which you dont know before hand.

I personally loves or feel special when the lady offer me "SPECIAL". I think its very sweet and really appreciated.

Here is the point. I think some gal charges way too much. Above $400/hr is way too high IMO. Dont metter how they look and offer..Just doesnt make sense to me..


Ohh well...JMO!

yborcityfla1028 reads

A few observations:

1. Your "periodic specials" section is a bit confusing and requires more time then I care to take figuring out am i really getting a discount: "floating specials," "bonus bucks," and "frequent flyer."  Simpler is always better.  If you're doing a periodic special simply say for "this month/week/2 days only the following rates apply__________ you fill in the blank.

2. Your full rate with deposit discounts put your rate at the DC average anyway.

3. If my math is right your periodic floating rate special is a nominal savings.  So for example, your normal rate for 2 hrs is $600 with deposit discount (which I would take advantage of); your floating rate special is 2 hrs for $450 but if you want incall (which I would prefer)it's an additional $100 which makes the fee $550 or a $50 savings on a 2 hr session.

Those are my quick observations of your specials and how I would factor them in my choice of selecting a provider.

I would also offer that with hobbying specials can not be applied with the same mind set as normal retail business.  Hobbyist have certain types they like and certain "things" they like during a session.  Hence there are some providers who can offer a helluva special and I would not partake because they are just not my type.

Then there are others who are EXACTLY my type but out of my price range and/or budget.  Since I don't have Tiger money I would not partake for that reason alone.  However, if the economy was not what it is now I would and have "splurged" on occassion and bust the budget. But with the current economy and bleak economic future I would not do that now.

Bottom line IMHO you're up against a real recession with more economic pain to come (I work in the field of economics so I know that of which I speak) and all are feeling the economic crunch.  Also hobbyist have there taste in provider and session types and "deals" rarely lure them from there comfort zones.....I would think.

With all that said....I appreciate your enthusiasm on the subject and I'm sure you bring that same enthsiasm to your sessions.

What you have is a classic supply/demand situation with several variables thrown in.  As a traveller around the country, I think DC prices are near the top end and have held up well (hence all the visiting ladies) though I'm sure many hobbyists have at least cut back their hobbying or gone to lesser cost alternatives.  I'd be curious as to your success at different price points just to learn how elastic the pricing model really is here.  Travel to Ohio/Indiana/Michigan and you'll typically see prices 2/3 of the DC metro area with what I would consider the same quality.
All that said, I always appreciate a good discount ; )

2/3 of DC prices. Hey sounds like a road trip to me. ROAD TRIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Who's IN!!!!! lol

After reading your reviews and going through your site I think you've just priced yourself too high darling... Not meaning to be offensive but considering what you offer there are too many other ladies out there offering the same thing for allot less! Unles syou can offer something to stand out I'm guessing that will continue to be the case.

Anyone asking for more than 300 for an hour should be able to rationalize what it is they do for me on their web site, or in their reviews... Unfortunately, I see nothing that stands out to make you an exception... perhaps I am alone on this and will take some flak but trying to be honest and truthful here!

Drop your price to 300 hr and see if the phone doesn't start ringing... most people have too busy a schedule to be able to setup a 24 hour advance appointment to take advantage of your discount! I personaly would not bother but I would pay your standard rate to see you if I felt it was worth it... and frankly I do not see the value at 400...

perhaps offering additional services or additional time considerations such as a 1/2 hour rate or repeat client discounts... or TER member discounts? all these go far if i am not mistaken...

I have seen ladies I otherwise would not have based on discounts they offered to TER members or introductory rates.. All beit I may not have returned after... but that would likely be a result of my feeling that their service was not worth the requested donation.

My .02

Fog


I find them annoying actually.

I tend to plan my visits for some time ahead. A brief drop in rates is not going to influence my decisions. There is usually too little notice and the duration is too brief to influence my decisions.

I also tend to circulate among a circle of favorites although I plan to visit one new person a month this year.

of the indies I choose to see. Offering a one time discount is not going to get me in the door if the regular rate is not something I would consider for repeat business.

just to take advantage of a temporarily low rate. I have a certain loyalty to those who are proven to be good for what ails me. ;-)

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