Thought I'd post something a little different.Bi read an excellent article on Forbes ans Slate, for those that would like the link pls PM me, as I'm not sure TER will allow me to post it.

With the ability to run credit card charges from your iPhone and iPad using a simple clip in device, credit card runs have become much easier for the ladies. I myself do not practice this, but I could. I run a small business where I charge credit cards from time to time, so it would be easy to mix in. The gents would get a receipt from a company they could write off on their taxes. Admittedly I'm nervous about doing so, wanting to keep my work information private.

I have been in a strip club in NOLA where we ran a credit card at the private booth where the lady was eneyertaining us. When we had our fill, the card was closed and off we went. It was pretty seamless.

Some interesting food for thought.


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Sure would help the card companies make money.

This activity is illegal.

Would a drug dealer start accepting credit cards?

Never gonna happen! You dont want paper trails for illegal actvity.

....visited with the gentleman in the past.  I use a different e-mail address, which appears to be a sporting good store on their credit card statement, which I have a DBA for.  I also accept AMEX gift cards, which can be purchased with their AMEX card. Trust me: there are plenty of ways to avoid using cash; you just need to be creative.  

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

Only the incredibly stupid use credit cards that they have provided their personal information to get. I feel the same goes for providers who accept them using some fictitious or bogus company they create to processes them through.

But it goes without saying there are so many incredibly stupid out there this practice is done too often. Fortunately for those who do the odds are more in their favor for not having something come back and bite them in the ass as often as it could.

Gift cards, ok no problem as long as you do not register them. But if providers or agencies accept them, it is the simplest way for LE to bring down the house and all those who visit.

But to each his own and I wish those who use credit cards the best of luck and hope they never come back here crying how the wife, work, family LE found out. And for agencies and providers, lets hope you are paying your taxes and keeping Uncle Sam happy because if you are not, well I am afraid getting busted for the real work you do would not be as painful as getting busted by the feds for tax evasion or fraud.

.....just paid my quarterly's.  Must justify one's lifestyle, and investments.  

  You come across as threatening, and condescending: why?

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

Now not only are you engaging in the illegal activity of prostitution, but also engaging in money laundering

Real beauty with brains...

I don't know why you see my point of view as threatening or condescending except to say it doesn't match with your own.

Having seen so many actual court cases where using a credit card killed both parties ability to walk away is why I feel it's not a good idea and isn't nessisary.

But ok feel this way and forget what I say after and when you have successfully beat the system I welcome you to shove my junk up my ass. And then we both can enjoy having survived the worse.

Until then, keep on truckin

BTW my view comes from 20 years of reading the news about those such as Debra Jean Palffrey, Miami Companions, dmvidy's and most recently , sophisticated  in Atlana and many more.

It's simply a matter of time and chance everyone who takes no care in hiding their junk will have it shoved up their asses.

Enjoy life and pray you never experience the troubles they did, come see me after and have your way with me

Surely you dont pay taxes when its a cash only transaction?

Im sure if she thought through enough to get her DBA, and had the ability to get an account to process credit cards that she has thought through the rest of the issues.

You can think it thru all you want, push comes to shove, its money laundering

how obtaining monies thru an illegal enterprise and then claiming it as income in a "shell" business is not money laundering?

There are ways, which would stand up in court, but I am sure that this is not anything that any of the ladies wants to go into depth over on a fuck board, just as I am sure that you would not want to explain on a fuck board where your money comes from to engage in an illegal activity.

I am always surprised at how "rightous and holier than thou" some act on a board such as this when engaging in conversations with the ladies.  I get what you are implying to, but your indignant attitude leaves much to be desired.

I doubt I'd have any issue transitioning to a cashless society.  I'm incorporated, pay my fed/state/payroll/etc taxes on all the money I make, have business and personal bank accounts, 401k, IRA, non-qualified accounts, etc.  The only difference being cashless would make is that the guys who are afraid of the sky falling down wouldn't see me... and fortunately I don't see too many of them anyway!  

What I find interesting is the double bind most gents seem to place ladies in.  Something of a financial Madonna/Whore complex...

If we don't report our income and pay taxes on it, we're bad because we're not paying our 'fair share' or contributing to society or whatever.  But then again, if we report and pay taxes on ALL of it, we're stupid because we should be taking advantage of the cash nature of the business and hiding/hoarding some.  

In order to be good girls and pay taxes on it, we have to lie and say we got it from XYZ activity as prostitution is illegal (even though we're all just selling time and companionship) so then we're guilty of money laundering.

Either it's tax evasion or it's money laundering and regardless of which side a girl says she's on, according to the popular male sentiment, the girls are in the wrong and there are dire consequences to be had.  

Add to that the incredible ire that is raised when ladies talk of using legitimate tax reduction or financial planning strategies that most (if not all) businesses follow.  How *dare* a model take deductions on her wardrobe, beauty regimen, travel and advertising expenses!  That's fraudulent because all she is is a ho!

You can't have both ways...  And before the sky can fall, a great many things must be PROVEN, not just insinuated.

....most of us, have LLC's,  accountants, financial planners, lawyers on retainer, etc.  

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

I have read on this board and others, how these ladies report their cash income and pay taxes on it. I dont believe a word of it.

As for a "holier than thou" attitude, I think not. Im just stating basic facts. When you earn money from an illegal enterprise and then report (and pay tax on) that money in a shell or "scam" business, it's money laundering, plain and simple. Drug dealers and the Mafia do this every day of the week.

I continue to admire your wit. There's a long history of casting pro-companions in can't win scenarios. Society has yet to come to terms with itself.

Because I'm so heavily focused on Long Term Arrangements, the vast majority of my business is cashless. Though things are legal in Canada, I don't declare the income as being escort based, I just include it with my regular job. I'm not so sure that's laundering in my circumstances. Frankly, I find the government doesn't care about how I earned it, only that I contribute.

(gives Lauren a good spanking for terrible writing)

....wakes up.

no matter how you slice and dice this, you are breaking the law. That's the bottom line.

That's why you have what you call a "double bind". And youre right, you cant have it both ways because either way you are committing a crime. Just accept it and carry on.

I don't know about you, but I don't engage in illegal activities.   Unless you want to call marriage, dating, cohabitating, etc "prostitution" also... but that's a whole 'nother thread.  

And besides, what I was talking about (and I'm not sure how it was missed) was not a hair splitting legality issue but a psychological one.  Of course it's physically impossible to be a Madonna and a Whore at the same time.  No one argues the physicality of the point when they discuss it.  Everyone (or at least, the *vast* majority of folks) grasps that the MWC discussion is a psychological one.

*wink wink* *nod nod*

How about prepaid VISA/MMC giftcard?

Edrinenne:

I would encourage you (as a lovely and highly intelligent lady) to read the controlling law (See,
Zaharinna Pappas v. The Commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service) - this authoritative tax
case (73-Pages) will give the reader a detailed insight into the the Judgement Federal Tax Court
Judges - reveal their thinking about the taxation of "escort services" and the attendant substantiation requirements - an easy thing for a beauty like you.
Good Reading...E

Googled and and nada... do you have a link?
xo

OOh, was it Zabetti A. Pappas v. Commissioner.  Docket No. 24593-95?  Just started skimming and there's a whole heck of a lot that goes into that case that's not at apropos...  Will read more...

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Many ladies prefer not to work vanilla jobs and use escorting as their sole source of primary income so OF COURSE we pay taxes on it. We need cars, apartment, homes, etc that require income verification. I learned the hard way when I was waitress that not reporting what you actually make comes back to bite you in the ass when you need to prove how much money you make. Many of us have clients who are accountants and for me specifically one helped me get my business up and running when I started.

Additionally, what you are failing to realize or are choosing to overlook is that an escorting business in and of itself is not illegal. Period.

The condescending attitude of some of the men on this board vexes me, especially since the most condescending ones "live" on TER.

Guys could get condoms with their credit card info bar coded on the outside, the ladies could place a tiny bar code reader at the entrance (in a labia liercing, perhaps) and the card would be automatically billed each time the bar coded condom passes by. Could charge by the stroke instead of by the hour.

Where is Thomas Edison when you need him? LOL

Make for terrible typing.  Over tea this morning, I've read through page 3 and already have a dozen 'issues' with the germaneness.  I'll keep reading and likely take this offline but for anyone interested, the fact that the lady was pro se should give you an idea to how her affairs were handled.