I'm a straight male.  But I have read several reviews from guys claiming they are straight but enjoy seeing TS/TV.  Would you consider yourself gay?  If no, why?

You say you are a straight male, but you are reading reviews of TS escorts.  Why don't you consider yourself gay?

Just curious as why someone would see a TV/TS

"Just curiuos as why someone would see a TV/TS"

For the same reason you are visiting this board...................CURIOSITY!!!!!!!!

I don't think you can group TV/TS together.

Its funny to me how in America everything and everyone must have a label. In other many other cultures this is not an issue. I say enjoy life, do what gives you pleasure and let the labels be dammed...How about this label...human being..

This subject is covered here regularly.  Take a look at two of these previous discussions.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=13182&boardID=19

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=10957&boardID=19

Your heterosexual club membership priveledges are revoked!  PERMANENTLY!!  Turn in your card.


-- Modified on 8/6/2005 1:38:47 PM

As the saying goes, "You're either straight, gay, or lying."

So it comes down to this: if you're interested in transsexuals, brother, YOU ARE GAY!

Now, understand -- plenty of people on this site will try to talk you out of it.

But think about: if you're attracted to a transsexual -- which is a man disguised as a woman -- then you are homosexual (i.e. "gay.")

I know you want to kid yourself, don't you? 'Yeah, but I like chicks with "something extra" down below." That's great, but that, by definition, makes you GAY.

Consider this: if you're truly heterosexual, then wouldn't you be attracted solely to genetic girls? Of course you would, but you're not, are you?

You're attracted to transsexuals, and what separates a transsexual from a genetic girl, huh?
A DICK!

You can spin it any way you want, but it all comes down to this: if you are attracted to transsexuals, then you are most certainly GAY!

One more thought: why are you attracted to a particular transsexual? Do you want to suck her nipples? Do you want to eat her pussy?

NO! Of course not...you want to suck her dick and/or have her fuck you in the ass!

Get a grip on reality, faggot -- there's no getting around it: You...are...GAY!

If you'd rather have a girl with a strap-on, no, but otherwise....hmmmm

God, these arguments (and questions) are just SO tired. Transsexualism is a matter of gender identity, not sexual preference or orientation. Why do people continually want to boil ALL of human relations down to whether or not there's more than one dick involved? Either/or thinking is one of the most common, and intellectually vapid, logical fallacies. EITHER you're straight OR you're gay OR you're lying: BULL. Human sexuality is far too complex for that sort of pigeonholing. And at the very least, if you're attracted to both GG women and TS women, then you're by (again simplistic) definition NOT gay because being gay means you are solely attracted to the same sex; you may be bisexual, but you are not gay, and particularly not if you are not attracted to me.

I am bi, have been all my life, so I don't care what label you want to use. But I consider it an insult to TS women to refer to them as "men disguised as women": they are not disguised, they ARE--in terms of gender indentification--women. Some may feel incomplete until they have SRS; others feel complete with their dicks. Why should they sacrifice the pleasures of that organ if they don't wish to or feel the need to to be complete?

Let's forget about labels and just enjoy what we enjoy and allow people to be who and what they are. Is that so difficult in the 21st century?

Oops, that "particularly not if you are not attracted to me" should read "attracted to men"!

Also, I'd like to rephrase the end of the penultimate paragraph: "Some may be incomplete until they have SRS; others feel complete with their dicks. Why should they sacrifice the pleasures of that organ if they don't wish to or if they feel complete as they are?"

Just because one is curious as to why a heter man would fuck a TV doesn't mean I'm gay.  I don't get turned on by TV nor am attracted to them.  I never said I was either.

You are cruel and ignorant.
I`m tired of your foolish rethoric about the gay issue.
I was verbally and physically abused from the time i was in first grade straight throug when i made the "change" because i was perceived to be gay, I never professed to be gay or had any association with any thing gay, but i had the misfortune not to walk or have gestures like the other boys, I was called fag incessantly, I tore the heart out of my familly when i desided to make the change.

I was not put on this earth and millions like me
to give you some one to abuse, at the core of your missguided beliefs is the belief that this could not happen to your familly?
If it happened to mine it can happen to yours!!
and you won`t get to choose
Please come up with something more sustantive that your heterosexuality, you did nothing to earn it, if you disagree i would be interested in hearing your history!! your heterosexuality was given to you with no effort whatsoever on your part.

Again this boring ass discussion, I agree with the earlier post that it is about genger idenity. I could care less what so of you experts have to say, the question is what do you itentify as. I like chicks with dicks call me what ever you like.

How am I cruel?  I asked a simple statement.  Didn't bash anyone.  Didn't insult anyone.

Just because a guy may want to experience some anal play with a lady and a strap-on, does not make him gay. He may have had some quite pleasureable anal digital play and want to take it to the next level. (That's me.)

Now, the thought may have occured to him that there doesn't seem to be a lot of difference between a gal with a strap-on and a pre-op, specifically regarding this activity. So, since the pre-op may be more used to performing in this manner, maybe it will be a better experience.

Now, if the whole reason for this curiousity stems around sucking on the pre-op's "secret", well, that would puzzle me indeed regarding his motives.

But, regarding any anal activity, my statement is thus - Gays do not have any copyright on any particular sexual activity. Performing these activities does not make one gay.


-- Modified on 8/7/2005 12:45:15 AM

Take your curiosity somewhere else...
Gay people are wonderful persons.

So many people are afraid of being categorized as gay like if it was a sin or a crime.

Well, I can see why!!!
From now on, I will be neutral.


-- Modified on 8/7/2005 2:59:07 PM

-- Modified on 8/7/2005 4:08:42 PM

I agree drpvu, your comments have been polite and respectful in this thread.  

The problem is that most of the others who wander in here with the same curious question are very closed minded and arrive with an agenda.  They want to bait others into a heated discussion laced with accusations and hatred that ends with no positive outcome.

It's a sensitive topic for many because there is no definitive category for this type of gender bending activity and interest.  Without going into all of the points that have come up above and in the other threads I pointed out earlier, there are several suggested black or white criteria that would indicate someone is either hetero, bi or gay.  This is a very grey area on the scale of sexuality.  Some here are very conflicted emotionally because of these labels.  Personally, I don't feel the need to be categorized.  I am what I am and I'm satisfied with that.

and make the straight community more ignorant about the gay community.  Then yet the gay community wants the mainstream to understand them yet when someone asks about something one gets defensive and shuts a "straight" person out.  

As they say, people fear those that they don't know.  So in order to calm that fear, teach them.  Teach me as I am open minded enough to learn.  I asked a simple question yet got my head chewed off by sensitive people.

I think most men who like shemales do not like men. Also, gay men probably wouldn't pick a shemale as their first choice.

I wrote an article for Urnotalone.com a few years ago, which discusses that subject.  I am going to put the link in, but here it is, also:

http://articles.urnotalone.com/15

Hey I like to fuck girls Anal; I do not like receiving anal and hey that's that!  So, while the classification thing is what you make of it - I prefer soft gentle women (with or without) who love to receive anal and not expect to give it to me?? Hmmmm?

What I see is a few gays here trying to deny it by saying a hetro male that might want to experience something different is gay.

Get real guys who love guys and admit the hetro guy can and probably will enjoy the best of both worlds knowing he is NOT gay like you.

What if a straight guy loves anal sex and none of the providers he sees offer it but the TS does, he sees her to enjoy the soft things on top and her ass from behind.

That does not make him gay.  

What it does with you is brings out the fact your gay and not happy about it.

So by your saying if a gay guy wants to experience fucking a straight female does that mean he is no longer gay?

Grow up and get a life so you can stop putting others down.