i contacted her  by e-mail  she answered back and said  oct 5th was good   when i called on the morning of the 5th  no answer  tried again and call would not go thru  i tried  butt will not give up  thanks latsdog

Derrier--dude, seriously, no more bs.  I'm not buying your story.

Shana is a top-rated, superb girl, and we need to show respect.

I know you want to do this, but twitching like a squirrel at every girl is just not the way to go about it.  There's a difference between gawking and admiring.

Just calm down, have your life in order, and then be ready to follow through.  Everybody will be much happier, and everybody smiles.