Why is it that I always hear of stings in Chicago more than any other city?  

I love Chicago but it really scares me that they (LE) really work hard for people to have fun

The suburbs are much better. Every time I hear of a girl getting harrased it's in the city limits. I never hear of it happening in the outlying area. Stay near O'Hare or in Schaumburg or even Lombard/Oak Brook and you'll be fine.

for that.

And also local fakers try to get those working girls caught. The lesser the better, so they have less competition and easily scam those no-brainers, horny dudes without trying too hard. Fakers want the business for themselves too LOL.(greed)
Fakers try to get those girls caught for many reasons, so they can use their photos or names etc. (you name it).

Local agency is jealous and tries to get those independent girls caught, so they can have more business for themselves (greed)

Some local jealous girls are not happy of those visiting take their pieces of pies, while they sit on their butts & nobody cares LOL.
Older girls who are not happy to compete with the newcomers, try to get rid of their competitions. They refuse to see that their glory years have passed them by & they start to become bald LOL. (jealousy)

A lot of shits are going on beneath the surface of this calm lake of meat market.  
It's a vicious cycles. And some of these snitches, eventually get caught for their own stupidity, call it 'Karma'.
Because little that they know, they just open a can of worms where they also work there and they are in it as 'fishes', waiting to be caught eventually

The real danger is not getting busted, but in underestimating the costs of what might happen between the time you are arrested, and the time you get released....if, of course, something goes "South."

Ok, let's say you get pissed, and you say the wrong thing to the wrong cop.  The Supreme Court has said that full body cavity searches are just fine, if LE decides they need to be sure they (LE) are "safe from dangers"...you know, hidden weapons, etc.  So it is 3:00am and you pissed off some cop, and now you are given a choice, (since you say you are a girl) to be body cavity searched by a female or a male cop.

Pick female, and you get a bull dyke that hates genetic males.  4 finger dry glove...you bleed from a tear. Or do you pick a male cop....4 finger dry glove, same deal follows on....  Was the glove used new???  Or was it second hand?   Who did they first use it to examine???  Then, you scream some more...now they are annoyed, and to get even, they "make a mistake" and stick you in with 7 morons who hate spanish or white background persons....the cops have the medical records, and 4 of the 7 are HIV positive...You are still bleeding....subject to virus and bacteria infections now very easily....you scream some more to be let outa there...the guards look in and tell one of your new friends to shut you up, or they will remove you.  so, for fun, he jambs into your left eye a dirty filthy finger nail, and your cornea in now scratched real bad with jail filth in the scratch, while 2 more wait behind...you look over at one white guy and another spanish guy, but they are half drunk, and, to be honest, they would rather just look on rather than help you.

At this point the cops have your cell phone, and so you can not call for help.  You now go insane, and you can not stop screaming to be outta there.  3 Cops come in, two take you out to a desk down the hall way.  One holds, on your right hand, your thumb and index finger together real tight....the other holds your ring and pinky finger together real tight...they then press your right hand onto the desk top, while the 3rd bends back your middle finger until it breaks....this hurts.  They then lie and say you fell, and they take you, in a straight jacket, to the hospital, where some newbie sets the break, 5 hours later, (you were tied up the whole time).  Finally, you get to court, maybe 20 hours later...you are released on your own recognizance, but you realize that you need an attorney.

You figure out there are 3 kinds.  Cheap, who might lose the case.  Expensive, you will drop 7k, 4k for the attorney, and the 3k that he gives to the judge to dismiss.  Or super expensive, politically connected, who can get the paperwork ripped up....it never happened.  20k.

Meanwhile, you are dealing with that eye that is damaged and infected, and you are worried about other infections and HIV.  

All this happened because you advertised on BP and _ _ o _ dot com that you were going to "Visit" some city where business is down and some gurl dropped a dime on you, and her BF was a Cop or an Investigator or a judge or whatever.  You though you could make an extra grand or two on the visit, but in the end......the Hard way:  you found out that you really (read the first line, above) underestimated the costs involved.  

Every lesson discussed herein has many elements of reality, all learned the Hard Way.  Bottom, bottom, bottom line:  As the economy slows down, all of the risks will rise for one and for all.  the ENTIRE PURPOSE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT (LE) AND THE SO CALLED CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IS TO INSTILL FEAR.  even worse scripts could be written....greed is dangerous.....being a visitor places anyone in a very vulnerable position, at best.  Thimk.  Do not be led on by suggestions or hopes.

Question:  end up busted and 800 miles from home?  do you really want to find out just who your real friends are????   you may find out, indeed.

It does not have to be Chicago.....All the cities are going under financially.....NY, PHILA, LA, Chicago, Miami, etc.   Hey, some judge may thing that the fines you will pay ought to be paid when he decides you are guilty....guess what???  They will be used to pay his paycheck.... This is what is coming...It is not going to just be trouble in Chicago.  The risks now are from dime droppers who hate the Visitors..the grab for cash from more organized efforts to "Stop these kinds of crimes" will come later...right now the risk levels for providers are low....but I you have heard and noticed, well, you are smart and observant.  so....

Be very cautious....be wise.....Be Lucky.....Be Smart....Be Careful....extra care is called for now

You may need a vacation...

Cheers to all....Vacay, indeed...where to go and with whom???

"What, indeed?  It is art for art's sake, Watson.  I suppose when you doctored ( aside, "X  many" reviews..) you found yourself studying cases without thought of a fee?" (We paid,  aside)
"For my education, Holmes."
"Education never ends, Watson.  It is a series of lessons with the greatest for the last."

Sherlock Holmes, "The Adventure of the Red Circle"  From "His Last Bow" copyright 1917 by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.  Renewed copyright 1945 by Denis P.S. Conan Doyle.

or perhaps....."It is, I admit, mere imagination, but how often is imagination the mother of truth?" from "The Valley of Fear, A Dawning Light."  copyright 1914 by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.  Renewed copyright 1942 by Denis P.S. Conan Doyle.

Whether it be at the Race Track, or in the Stock Market, or in the business of providing, most players underestimate the costs of mistakes....I saw Red come out 14 times in a row in Atlantic City one night. Just because no one encountered a problem the last 14 times, does in no wise reduce the risk.  The risks ought to be considered....and some of the risks, when they convert to perils or hazards, have consequences that are much greater than they appear, upon first impression.

I like the 4 Seasons for Vacay....their hotels are usually rather calming....but who to take along, now that is the Question.  Let's see, at $1,000 per day or so, two weeks will cost.....

Let's all just keep on rockin'.  Be calm.  But Know well, "it is always better to be lucky than smart"....kind of defines the hobby, no?

END OF MESSAGE

I may have underestimated you myself fire. If Hemingway could have eased up on the irony and
found instead the urgency and grit you possess in spades he may have been able to put down the
gun. Allowing you to showcase your talent here on the board tells me your agents a real mensch.

LOL....
for sure.....
it seems wise to get witnesses, if any issues arise in Chicago, DC, NYC, etc.  
Let's not pick on Chicago, but get ready for whatever may befall us....and wherever, too!
Line up your witnesses now, for, you know, in court, ya gotta tell da judge, "I didn't do nuttin', your honor, and Can I Get a Witness???  Please???"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whTb96zr9_w

Thimk!

Lol. Good post. Here's to being lucky....

ear Le Mat, it was, for sure, (believe it, he is real) the Comte Saint-Germain who told distant that Hemingway blew his brains out because he could no longer get it up.  So Pfizer could have saved him with Viagra 100mg pills, one imagines.  One also wonders if someone (the Comte...?? hmmm...) had a video camera, to know so much.....about......you know.

But I digress.  Using Hemingway as a guide, this will be my last Post on this Board...too much like a Racetrack tout sheet...
for

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us -- if at all -- not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.        ------as you must know, Thomas Stearns Eliot, "The Hollow Men" (in part)

This poem says a lot about these times, the hobby, and one wonders if Hemingway knew any T-Girls ?

I "thimk" I'll call the Comte, later tonight, to find out.  "I found out."
Cheers and good bye.....My last post!  Stay Lucky, one and all!

And so, fare thee well:
Thou never shalt hear herald any more.    (Montjoy, King Henry V, Act IV, Scene III.

You saved the best wine to the last.  
I hope you saved some for yourself.
Le Mat is humbled and saddened by
your departure. Farewell.

nm

...to meet girls. In fact, I very much prefer doing that versus calling to set up dates. I used to love the old El Gato Negro, the bar was not much too look at but there was always a lot of talent in the bar. Berlin also used to be a good place to hang out to meet girls on a Friday or Saturday. Some have had good luck at the Baton Show Lounge but I never found it very customer friendly and it was difficult, at least for me, to get a conversation rolling in that place.  

Where are some of the better places to go in Chicago now that the Gato has closed to meet girls? I have to think that a bar is 99.9% LE proof. I can't see a cop dressing up in drag and hanging out at a nightclub to run a sting operation.  

Maybe list the places, and corresponding nights, where the girls hang out in Chicago. Circuit and Hydrate used to have good nights during the week too.

Phoenix out in Elk Grove Village has gotten good. There's a local girl who has been convincing lots of her friends from around the country to visit and go to the club. They go there on Friday and Saturday and work at the nearby motels on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. It's been kind of a boon lately. That's why there have been so many girls in EGV recently...
La Cueva on the South Side is good too, especially if you speak spanish... I went there on a Friday a few months ago and there were some cuties, including a few that I knew. Lots of CDs there too.

Thanks for the reply. I have heard that it is difficult to get a cab back to the city from La Cueva, true? I typically stay in the city but might give Phoenix a try sometime given that it sounds like there are hotels near the club. All good information, I sure miss El Gato.

La Cueva is in "El Barrio". You won't find a taxi there at all. Phoenix has some hotels nearby, but most aren't the kind you stay overnight at. There is a La Quinta nearby however, which isn't bad. Yeah, El Gato Negro was cool. It sucks that it closed...  
Check Backpage, most of the girls who are staying in Elk Grove Village are ones you will meet at Phoenix. They change from week to week depending on who's visiting.

I usually stay on Michigan Ave. at The InterContinental but have also stayed at the Trump Tower. I like them both but the Trump Tower is newer, nicer. I'm a city guy, not big on the burbs in any metro area. I'll give Berlin a go or one of the other places on Halstead.  

That Phoenix bar sounds promising. I went there maybe eight years ago when it was called Hunters and thought it was awful. If its under new ownership I may give it a go.  

One gal I have not seen but always wanted to is Cameron. Timing just never worked out with her. Her reviews are all great so if I catch up with her this trip I'll let you know.  

Question for the group. I met a Polish girl about four years ago in Chicago. I almost didn't leave with her when I saw her light up a smoke but I am glad that I did as it was an incredible time. I forgot her name and lost her number. She was blond, had a great eastern European look and was a great top. Just curious if anyone met her, remembers her name, etc.... I have never seen her on backpage either.

I see Monika frequently and she was in Milwaukee by the airport and arrested by police called by another T in the same hotel to cut the competition. They took her money and charged her with escort w/o a license and she had to appear in court and pay a fine with no return of money. The other T probably gets a split from the police as she is local and M is from Chicago area.

Yeah, the Halsted area is good. Lots of bars with lots of girls. I'm sure you'll find some fun, even without El Gato...

She sort of reminds me of the actress Mia Sara from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Whatever name she uses she looks pretty darn good.