Well, quite distrubing but no telling why anyone would have unprotected sex these days.  Someone sent me a pm the other day asking me a general question about ts girls being disease free and clean and how to find one.  My response was you can't so always wear a condom.  If a TS girl or anyone has sex with a few people a week minimum and all of those people are sexually active with multiple partners, the group all of a sudden becomes quite large, thus the reason to always wear protection.

This is something i wanted to share for a while and reading Latsdog post about the provider that is going crazy on people,i thought i would share with you the following story.
I had unprotected sex with a very well know provider,she did not rape me, i knew what i was doing and went along with it,no need to tell me it was a quite stupid act,that i know,the worst is that i did it twice!!
It happened a year ago or maybe more, got tersted 2 months later and i was ok,but that is not accurate..the test i mean,but my dilemma was at that time,being a very well known provider with a great reputation...she did it with me...and with how many more??? is she out there to get even?? She did it because she just dont care??? After that episode,i have not seen her again nor i have seen any other TS provider so far,just dont feel like it!!! i have been tempted to talk to her about it,but have not,i want to make clear she is a top and did not ejaculated inside,which i know is not a guarantee of anything. Just wanteed to share...

Over the years, having met with and been regulars with many ladies... both GG and TG, it has come up before that bareback sessions are an option (usualy for additional fee)... I know this is a Tabou subject but just throwing it out there.

If you are engaging in unprotected intercourse you jeaopordize the entire community. BBBJ is one thing but BB anal or even vaginal intercourse is an EXTREMELY risky venture in the hobbying world! Please be respectful to not share details on the board of who or what may have transpired in the past.

Please refrain from putting yourself and our lovely ladies at risk! I'm sure we'd alllike to be around for a long time to cum... and not have to worry about bringing anything home to our loved ones either as in most cases you are not just putting yourself at risk!

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True...im sure its more common that we could ever imagine,but nobody wants to talk about it. I think i went with it,because ive been with her a few times and got carried away and i thought to myself,no way this gal can be sick....but hey,that is like playing russian roulette...she assured me after that that she is totally clear........hope she is!!!

what about unprotected oral? are risks high? seems like lots of girls like bbbj.

In this case, it was not a money issue, it was a stupid act putting my health at risk,but when you tell me to refrain from putting my life at risk,thats my call,i know it was stupid and thats that....now if you want to be risk free ...i suggest you stay home,because not even a condom will make you experience 100 % sure,so if you have a significant other and you are in the hobby,then your just acting as stupid as i did.....

Over the past two years I have had both a UTR pornstar (GG, VERY famous) and a TS provider both try to get me to fuck them bareback.  The TS shocked me a bit, but the PS REALLY shocked me.  She was ready and willing to let me slide in her ass BB, holding her cheeks open and everything...all I said (in an email), that I was regularly tested by AIM.  I came very close to doing just that, then realized what the hell I was doing and luckily started thinking with the smarter head before I popped it in.  Considering what a fantasy of mine the PS was, I would have shoved it in and popped right away, so she would have essentially been up for a full on anal creampie...not good...

While I understand why this is a taboo subject on a public forum, it's almost shooting ourselves in the foot by not sharing this info with one another.  But, it's got to remain private for a reason...  Just a head's up to the newbs and to the vet's that may not have had this happen yet...it happens, I'm sure alot more then we would like to think it does.

Just one more reason why I love TER and especially this message board!  Dog is seriously the best Mod on this site, hands down.

Thanks for all the info guys but what about BBBJ? I really do not want to suck on a piece of latex.... I have read that the AIDS virus cannot live in the stomach so the only way to get it orally is to have a sore in your mouth at the time. Can you tell me your ideas about this part of out particular hobby?
Thanks

I've read up non the oral sex topic.  Anything you read will always state its not impossible to catch aids/HIV through oral sex.  If you hate latex, my recommendation is to make sure you don't floss or brush your gums to hard a day or two prior to  your session

i like bbbj, i do not go to completion, just short and wash mouth with listerine. i like taste of precum so i do not like cbj. listerine should help?

I have had a few TS providers as me to cum in there ass, 1 or 2 asked me to fuck them BB i declined of course. Had another incident with a freebie in NYC the girl was on top of me cowgirl just grinding rubbing the head of my cock around her ass for about 10 minutes, i was about to blow just from that then she just bounced all the way down, i immediately freaked out and told her no rubber no sex so she got off and we strapped up, but that was enough to never see her again! But theres definitely some sketchy individuals out there, so i suggest play safe so you dont endanger your or anyone elses health!

I agree BB is stupid, but it usually only happens when you are having a really great date, and think that's what all of us here are looking for, really great dates. It's happened to me too, with really well known, well reviewed providers. I had met them all previously and played safe, just really hot dates the took off. Not all guys have the self control to bring the party to a screeching halt. There is more of it going on then the few brave souls posting in this thread would lead you to believe. TER won't accept reviews that mention it, and like this thread shows, not a lot of members will have the guts to admit they have done it. Getting tested for STD's and HIV every year when you go in for your physical can be embarrassing with the old family doc, but not a bad idea. Neither is researching some of the other risks associated with this hobby, like hepatitis.

Also agree that covered bj's suck, but more so when it is you doing the sucking.

This also happened  to me about 9 months ago. I also never have un protected sex except for Oral and  have never had come in my mouth but a while back I was  with a well known  provider. I had seen her several times before  and we hit it off together. This time our session was  really hot  and right before  I was  about to take her  good  she reached around and pulled off my cover and said" Fuck me raw  baby  I want  your  come in  my ass" . In the heat of the  moment I did it. It was difficult to say no even though the whole time I was worried. Of course it had  been so long  since I had ever done this that I blew right away but  then I just got so paraniod that  I pulled out right  away  and  she was bumed  out that I did not  stay inside her ass and cuddle with  her like that  I was so paranoid  about it. and  worried about  what  I had done. I did not want to ask her the question  " do you do this with all the boys". Now I may never repeat with her  because of this and thats a shame because she is so very cool  and fun to be with. It scared me

Well...seems like there are quite a few people doing the same thing out there,not good...always use your head, and never trust s provider that wants to go bareback,even if she tell you that u are special.....lol!!!

Yep me too, had two providers ask to go no cover and i declined them both. Then i had the chance to meet the one provider that i have always wanted to see, things were going great and as she went to top me i didnt think she was covered,instead of checking or asking i just went with it. we were doing it dog and i didnt wanna stop and check.  The lady is a well known provider and poster to the board, i feel lucky to still be clean .

Really??? can you pm me or send me email....want to check if it is the same one.....

Something has to be done with someone who acts like that....im almost sure its the same provider

Can you pm me also as to whom you are referencing. Thanks

Why dont people just name and shame so others dont fall into the same trap

No, that's not it. It's happened a few times for me over several years of the hobby, so I think it isn't just me, or a particular provider that you could "name and shame" and the issue would go away. Sometimes dates just end up being really hot, and if you are in the middle of a really hot session, and things end up going that way, it is up to you, the client, to have the self control and good sense to slow it down and cover up.

Flagging providers by name for the occasional BB serves no purpose, imo, since if we did, we would be ruining the reputations and business of some really great providers, that usually do play safe. I guess I don't share the same level of paranoia about all this. I knew full well going into this hobby what the possible consequences were to it. As a consenting adult, I take full responsibility for my actions, and refuse to blame or shame a provider for my choices. If you are so worried about meeting up with a TS that you need to show up to the date in hazmat suit, you shouldn't even be doing this in the first place.

This subject has been going on too long, and we are all adult and know what the consequences of our actions. We all know what we are doing.
I believe many guys have done it once or twice, or even with their ATF most of the time (all time fav). Either is with Ts girl, or GG.  If you never do it, then more power to you.

I'm sure, a lot of you have many stories to tell when it comes to this subject, but you choose not to. Cos those are the skeletons in your closet. It's only between you and your girl.
And I don't see the point of laboring this subject over and over again. This subject scares all the guys that want to hobby away, esp, for the newbies.  And pity those, our Ts sweethearts when they have to read this over and over again, and pout, cos they know this subject sucks! big horse C****KKK! to their profession!

I think that is true of experienced people who know the risks and unexpected things that can go on.  I'd suggest those people just skip over these threads if they don't like them.

However I think these threads are very useful for people who are new or have not run into this situation yet and judging from the posts in that forum there are new people all the time and if a post keeps one person from being infected with a fatal illness (and the CDC does consider HIV a fatal illness) then it's worth it.  Most people are surprised when they find out a TG escort might try to have unprotected sex with them without their consent or knowledge.  It's something they need to know even if it scares them.

I think the lesson for someone new here is that even well known girls may occasionally not use protection and for that reason someone who wants to stay clean *always* has to use protection.  It's the basic health official's guidelines, if you are not in a monogamous relationship with person whose STD status you know then you must use risk reduction measures.  In every study I've seen TG sex workers have significantly higher HIV infection rates than GG sex workers.  And if you add to that receptive anal sex which is the among the highest risk sex acts, then it really is Russian Roulette to omit risk reduction measures.

More important are warnings in the threads were the posts where the omission of risk reduction measures was not by mutual consent.  That is assault and new people need to know that goes on and that they need to verify a condom is being used.  That may not be obvious to an inexperienced person.

Naming people is a slippery slope.  It is ripe for abuse and the possibility of slander.  In one case a trusted person posted after directly asking multiple people who had been with the person in question and it was a situation where the topic was assault and in that case I don't think there can be too much doubt as to the authenticity or accuracy of his information and I thought it was good that he shared that information.  However, if individuals start posting individual accusations about consensual omission of protection it might start off with the best of intentions but it would quickly descend into a mess as trolls, jokers, people looking for revenge, etc. and then victims contacting attorneys... Hasn't worked on other sites any way.

I've done it once w/ a well known provider who has done a couple films lately. Sigh that was a stupid moment for me. So far i'm clean.......still feel stupid

I initiated the thread and had received numerous pms asking me for names and i tell them that that was something that happened between me and this lady and that i wont mention names,it was consentual sex ,between to adults, i am responsible for what i do,and she is responsible of what she does,even if she has safe sex being HIV positive,not to mention knowing your status and having unprotected sex...that is just plain criminal and sick,it happened almost more that a year ago,and i never got tested,she contacted me and told me not to worry because she would never harm anybody,that she was clean and that she would like to talk to me,worried about her reputation.
I told her that if she was clean,everything was ok,but that if she was not and she knew it all the time,thats when the problems will arise,simple as that!!!
I just started the thread as a way to alert people here not to think with your little one in the heat of the moment,always play it safe,even thou playing it safe in this hobby is not 100 % for sure and at the same time, im sure that most of the TS ladys here are clean and safe,but at the same time im sure there are a few of them HIV positive working,some of them playing safe,which is quite irresponsible and the rest are out there just getting even...thats sick,criminal and irresponsible.

You never know how accurate these things are, but every report I've seen suggests very high HIV rate infections in TS prostitutes. Whatever the stories you may read here or elsewhere, you have got to basically assume your provider is HIV+ since there's no way to establish otherwise.

So what you are saying is that ALL TS ladies here are HIV positive??? meaning that even the one that you have had protected sex with is sick??? if that is so....what are you doing in the hobby.....sounds like suicidal to me.....