My Devil emoticon for mood in this case meant to be as Devilish/humor/mischief/troublemaking/ as opposed to "an angry devil"...  

This is in partial reference to the topic... "411 Please! link - by LATSDog, 2/24/2014 1:59:02 PM (566 reads))"

 
I tried to post there, with the emoticons an' stuff I wanted, but alas... decided better to just make it a new thread, and see what falls from the trees, eh ?    ; )

 
....and, you're welcome, Tia...  always....  
   
   
...thanks for also stickin' up for those, that many here would clearly rather just laugh at, or mock at,  and some unfortunately,  just to feel better about some of their own personally held and maybe also unexplored, or deeply un-reconciled issues...  
   
   
   
 ...even terribly "un-passable" CD's often share a similar internal compulsion as that of many of us TS women...  and of course, keep in mind, that most of them will never "transition",  most often are deeply secreted,  very closeted,  or "purge" themselves of such clothing, engagements or desires after sometimes taking suck risks of  "just having some fun",  but nonetheless... is still just another individual *point* along the *billions wide* literally individual spectrum of gender/identity, orientation, and sexuality....  
   
   
   
 ...which is why, gentlemen, *please* don't forget - that many of **you** are also ***here*** in this forum, to begin with... because of *your own* attraction to, or fascination with, people of differing gender expressions,  and some of you out there, have even mixed and very personally private gender expressions or orientations,  and also share some of these *same* characteristics, and seek OUR company, as a form of being able to more fully explore, and experience that for yourselves,  from BOTH sides of the skirt or dress, so to speak...    ; - }  
   
   
   
if you were that fellow, girl, woman in transition, just trying to do the best you can with whatever it is you had to work with in terms of physical appearance, features, accommodations, etc, would you wish to be made the butt ( ok...unfunny, so to speak  : ), of this kind of terribly insensitive mocking, just for a few cheap laughs... ?  
   
   
 ....it's always easier to laugh at another, place someone else down for their shortcomings, than look inside your own imperfect self with real true kindness and acceptance of others, Yes ?      
   
   
   
 But.... this forum needs more real dialogue, not cruelty, harshness, lack of acceptance....sick jokes go in by the busload in the erotic humor forum.... where, by the way you should see some of the erotic madness of my own (extremely) naughty adventures with father Christmas, that i've contributed there, during the past 2 holidays....   ; - )  
   
   
   
 ...once upon a time, i heard there used to be more real explorative dialogues, ongoing conversations, less pedantic positioning and politics,  and less of what now seem like more of just the ongoing drone of what begins to sound like a continuous stream of passionlessly clinical, and coldly "blow by blow"  ( hah : )  sharing every clinical detail of  "yep, then she "lubed herself up"... ...wow, whatta turn-on  I'm sure *that* line was, in one of my *own* last reviews, huh? )  "and then I came on her tits and far too loose ass like a total pro, and her like a sloppy whore"...  kind of stuff,  and more opening of perspectives, more honor of all....  

 
....and I think,  as Jack Nicholson once famously said,  in the first "Batman" movie,  
   
   
 "What this place needs, is an enema!!!"      
   
   
 so.... just sayin'.... maybe additional food for thought....  
   
   
...and p.s.  Tia still rocks.  ...and so does every good, committed, hardcore passionate, honorable, and striving to make it thru this kind of challenging place in life and erotic arts, TS companion and provider, that's out here...  
   
   
You all suck. (but guys, trust me, not nearly as good as I do ).... hahahalololol    
   
   
 Namaste'  
   
   
 
   
   
 TheAngelaGirl

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and as was suggested in that thread...maybe even a sarcasm board, is probably an excellent idea !  

Let's keep in mind that this forum is made up of many different people who have many different ideas about what "this forum needs".  

Very honestly, I view this site and this forum as a tool for commerce. The "blow by blow" descriptions are very helpful to the buyer as they help us to understand what we are buying more fully *before* we buy it. This site is largely from the perspective of the buyer, not the provider. I don't mean to say that it isn't great to have providers here and contributing, but understand that we likely have a very different perspective on this hobby than you do. Just because you don't appreciate the "blow by blow" reviews doesn't mean they don't have value to others.  

As far as poking fun at others goes, you're right. I have been guilty of it myself. I realize that to let it all hang out, as the person in the ad in question did, takes great courage and personal sacrifice. I can't speak for others, but I will no longer participate in a thread that is about denegrating someone else. I realize also that the transition takes time and lots of work. I think most of us here have a vested interest in making it easier on the girls as they begin their transitions, after all, everyone starts somewhere, right?

So hello there ! Just wondering who r u ? Where r u ?? By chance anywhere near philly ?? Tryin not 2 b funny but when I check out this board from time to time I notice u post & they always seem 2 b very very well said , maybe a little deep & long(lol) for the likes of the "mellow souls " of this board !! Any conversation without using cock(how big) cum(how much) but seriously u really bring much needed respectful intelligent stuff to the board - like 2 c it more often !! Don't have VIP right now so I wanna ask is that last comment u made true luv ????? Lol - b nice 2 meet u one day !!! Good stuff !!  

 

  For the first part of your response... I DO get it... really...  after all, as one of the "items in question" of the "buyer's" mind, of course.... I *have* to... we all do.... after devoting years of concentrated attention to detail in every facet as a woman, a companion, and erotic artist.. of *course* that has to matter.... but... (there's always a "but"...  : ), how can it be a fair forum if only....  

 
"" This site is largely from the perspective of the buyer, not the provider. I don't mean to say that it isn't great to have providers here and contributing, but understand that we likely have a very different perspective on this hobby than you do.""....  

 
Of course you do... to a certain extent... but when say, I post a photo on a page for example, I post it from my own perspective of **also** being deeply attracted to other females in general, knowing what *I* am also attracted to in both form, content,  and articulation,  based on the audience I very intentionedly, & very consciously BOTH *understand*,  and, wish to appeal to...  

....and so therefore, that calls the entire basis of this particular assertion into question, as valid or not ?  

I actually think that was a somewhat condescending way of putting it, love... and no insult intended either.... but just really think for a moment... if that assertion is entirely true, then that would imply that we, as (very special, and often innately *both* gender perspective providers) have little comprehension of what you, the seeker, wish most to find... and yet, in order to be a *good* or at least a decent provider or companion, one has to be able to see *many* sides at once, in several different dimensions, & in some cases as many, if not more perspectives, than I daresay...at least some men in the world can or will, or even wish to - outside of the most simple terms of "visuality" (new word, I hope you like it) and simple, basic terms of straightforward sex...

 
...and that doesn't even take into account personal biases or individual perceptions which may or not even remotely match up from one person to the next as we've seen in many cases, individual tastes, inaccuracies, exaggerations, pissitudes, distortions, heck, even influence of substances when partaking of both an engagement, as well as who know - even maybe writing or reading of reviews, or stage of a seeker's own personal experience, or good days/bad days for both seeker and companion, & so forth...  

 
I was *not* to say at all, that the "juicy details" don't have a *very* proper place, and are extremely useful in a good deal of the valid decision-making that you, as the seeker, must have and also wish to find for a variety of personal reasons in this process.... yet.... that was also not the whole of what I was getting at in terms of re-expanding the dialogues here in some more gentle ways if that is a good term.... also remember, many of the girls in erotic arts will eventually wish to have a life outside of, or beyond this stage or moment in time, and I think people can maybe say the same things,  but maybe less coarsely, crudely, coldly, more elegantly, more respectfully, more accurately, etc..... and that of course is my own opinion and is neither an assertion of "right" nor "wrong", as much as food for thought...

 
I think that **without** the very real input, opinion, perspective, awareness, and experience of *US*, such a forum could not possibly be as good as it could, or ideally should be... Yes ?

 
the second half of your response.... all I can say is just *awesome*. LoveRespectAlways to you for that personal self-assertion, and thank you, most deeply, for agreeing with me on that point.

 
Most Respectfully, and of course naughtily, always  

 

 
AngelaGirl

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all I can say is.... ummm.... wow... ok  

 
I remember seeing you here from time to time and also maybe echoing some of my own thoughts in some ways ?  

 
just too nice... I honestly don't get up that way very often, but... not to say it can't happen or vice versa sometime, love.... but who knows... we could utterly dislike each other for thinkin' too much alike or such.... lololol

 
I just try to speak from the heart, speak for myself, and from my own personal experiences... so  sometimes maybe I share too much, sometimes maybe not enough... all I can say is one never knows, if taking a risk in this life is worth it, unless we actually buck up and take it, no matter the outcome thereafter, yes ?  ....at least then we'll know the answer, regardless.... sure beats the always carrying the weight of a million unanswered questions, unsolved riddles, unmet wishes, or potential for regrets, right ?  

 
...kinda like the immense risks and consequences of "transition" for us,  or taking that first step for a first time seeker in some ways....  

 
you never know what will really happen, unless you make the leap...  

 
Hugz!

 
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U still didn't answer my question as to that last "opinion" u passed about urself !! Lol but it's been awhile how 2 check stuff out da!! Ur in DC ? Next time I go down & have lunch with Barack I'll give u a holla luv ok !!!

I didn't mean to call into question your ability to understand the perspective of the customer, as any good provider must have that ability. I simply wanted you to realize that although you may not appreciate the graphic nature in which some posts or reviews are written, others do, and find great value in them. I'm sure eveyone also knows that any review is subjective and has many variables since it is about people. However, the best indication of future behavior is past behavior. As far as how graphically they are written, some people just lack couth, myself included.  
As for the second point, yeah, I am pretty awesome. Glad you noticed!

Angela, I think your hearts in the right place, in the chest of a woman. You can readily emphasize with this dude less blessed in the looks department than you are...and you would like us to as well. Sounds good, yet I disagree. Once you enter into the public square with a work of art, a film, a book, or an escort ad, you willingly open yourself to criticism. There are bad films that invite scorn, even mocking derision. Some invoke praise. Likewise, with books, works of art, and escort ads. Your post reminds me of the sad thing that happens to many boys whose female teachers reprimand them for not behaving like good little girls. On that note I am going to behave badly here and say that wlhile I have a warm feeling towards you personally, your meandering posts, (stream of consciousness?) would work better if more of your sentences came to a conclusion and ended with a . period.

Waiting 4 some of the providers to offer some support or atleast an opinion here Jesus !! Maybe it's to late & I'm tired but I'm tryin to figure out le mat what the fuck ur talkin about - I think in essence what Angela is tryin to say maybe,not sure though, is everyone can pass an opinion about anything they want but maybe b a tad respectful or a we bit courteous that's all . Maybe make an attempt to raise the bar a notch, seems rather reasonable to me . Someone exposes a fake or a scammer knock urself out fuck them all get as nasty as possible!! A little common sense shouldn't b to much to ask for. As 4 me the " cum-cock-barebacking" threads r a little boring at times. Maybe I'm a little to old but I'm looking for a provider to b first somewhat of a lady, certain amount of smarts & class - does not have to b world class but fuck those perfect body big dick snobby condescending providers who act like they're doing u a favor that take ur money & get u in & out in 47 minutes!!! This hobby does need a few more good old fashion nice people on both sides of the aisle & we all know that right ?? Who just popped into my head just now ?? Fucking Daisy!!! Why ?? Sweet-respectful-smart-well spoken-gorgious & MOST importantly she is humble !! & she hardly ever talk about money !!!!!  

Well gawwleee milanoluv thanks a whole bunch for goin through the trouble to further illuminate Angela's post.
Nice doggie. While your on your back maybe someone will come along and rub your tummy. Mockery is not nice.
When the Ford Motor Co. produced a model named after Henry's son Edsel Bryant Ford in 1958 it was mocked out
Of existence within 3 years. People, guys mostly, said the grill looked like a vagina. Ouch, harsh. 4 years after it's  
demise the 1st Mustang hit the road. Hmmm, correlation? Lemme hit you with this analogy: a disciple of some famous guru,
tells a story of a day when, out of jealousy, a villager burned down the most productive tree in his orchard. Because of
his elevated sense of compassion he took no action against the offender. Later in the day it was discovered that the villagers
house and all it's belongings had mysteriously burned to the ground. The gurus teaching? That had the disciple taken the responsibility of dealing an appropriate, measured response, the villager would not have suffered the worse fate of instant karma. What if, instead of nicey nice, the appropriate response to this dudes ad is, in fact, mockery? The PAC Leader of
this board...he's not a nice man. But his actions here may have prevented the dudes rm from spontaneously combusting, taking down all his outfits and wigs and perhaps permanently preventing his transformation from an Edsel to a Mustang.  
Namaste

I'm 60yrs old asshole , my days of rolling over 4 anyone r long over - with one exception! My granddaughter !! Talk about meandering ?? Hello? Anyone can meander all they want as long as at the end of the day you've actually said something !! No need to hide behind analogy's make ur point Matty boy !! & by the way I still don't know what the fuck ur tryin 2 say !  

Dear LeMat... thank you, and.... i think I hear you in most ways... and allow me to respond to a couple of things by detail...

"Angela, I think your hearts in the right place, in the chest of a woman. You can readily emphasize with this dude less blessed in the looks department than you are...and you would like us to as well. Sounds good, yet I disagree. Once you enter into the public square with a work of art, a film, a book, or an escort ad, you willingly open yourself to criticism. There are bad films that invite scorn, even mocking derision. Some invoke praise. Likewise, with books, works of art, and escort ads."

 
I absolutely agree on this point of public domain and scrutiny. Of course. That's the risk we all take when entering *anything* into the visible eye, perception, and discernment of the surrounding world.  

 
However, my point specifically in part of the initial post was not to say it doesn't happen, or won't happen, but....(there's that "but" again, lol : )  

 
It was as much, or even more, to suggest that we all have choices in terms of responses, behaviors, even in changing what may be firmly held perceptions (once the earth was flat, and people clung to that idea with their very lives, and yet, new perspectives and information forever changed the way that people saw the world and reacted to it).  

 
My idea is that *sometimes* it's possible that some may (or may not) be looking at things from others' perspectives, situations, and likewise personally valid experiences, and therefore leaves room to not only suggest, or offer, but also to challenge systems, ways of thinking and reacting and doing things which would otherwise be commonly accepted as *acceptable*.  

 
Just because the kid down the street threw a rock for fun and laughs, thru the nerdy guys' window for being different and a target of ridicule, doesn't mean that everyone else on the block has to follow suit and engage in that same line of thinking, or expression of reaction, to what they *think* they know, and from only the limited perspective of the dynamic between "weird guy" and the one kid (or maybe even 2 or 3, or even 10 more) that decided to follow that route.  : )

 
When we all (most of us) know inside, that in fact it IS possible to take, or allow, a moment of heart, mind, conscience, or new perspective, to change the ways of doing things, then clearly more ideas and ways of doing things can come to the table.  More can be seen, discussed, debated, and even sometimes reconciled, especially when one is willing to take risks to challenge, or at least offer such things.  

 
...and you said:
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"Your post reminds me of the sad thing that happens to many boys whose female teachers reprimand them for not behaving like good little girls. On that note I am going to behave badly here and say that wlhile I have a warm feeling towards you personally, your meandering posts, (stream of consciousness?) would work better if more of your sentences came to a conclusion and ended with a . period."

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Yes. Some of my posts over time could maybe be seen as meandering. I am not fond of that term as you put it, but I have to accept that is *your* perception, and therefore likely also the perception of some others as well, and also therefore must be taken into account if I am going to be honest with myself and others.  

 
So, I can only offer this, in response to that very bad behavior:  Go f*** yourself with a 27 inch Dildo with metal spikes. Period. How's that for succinct and to the point ? hahahhalolololol  

 
No, seriously... I try to cover as many specific points as possible, and try to conclude each one, and since most of the content, idea, and intention, is all interconnected, it is my writing style.  

 
An intentional writing style specifically used to connect each point, allow for easier reading in segments especially when making long posts, and such  "........"  breaks to give pause when I wish to highlight one specific point or another.  My first response to Timotl was a little long, but I was extremely specific on each point, and closed each one fairly affirmatively.  

 
People will do, say, react, flail against, rage upon, mock, deride, laugh at, elevate, compliment, or give support or lack thereof to what they will...for sure and really. Simply just the way it is... at least for now.   ; )  

 
The only thing that ever makes change, is when others take risks or at least forethought to begin making changes, for good, or otherwise.    

 
I cannot unsay what I have said, and therefore I must be willing and able to accept, and respond to, whatever may come out of it.  

 

Most Kindly, always,

 

 
AngelaGirl


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Luv, here's what I'm saying in a nutshell (don't say anything about this being the equivalent...) sans analogy. Just as I am supportive and sometimes merely tolerant of the expression of transgendered women so too am I supportive and sometimes merely tolerant of the expression of the male sex. I saw your comments as overly endearing and hence the submissive dog imagery came to mind. The other dog on the board I see lifting his leg in vapid determination to piss on as much as possible before his bladder is empty. It's all mildly amusing to me, including Angela's and Tia's comments that I am more comfortable with.

Angela, I'm flattered that you would spend so much time answering my post. Now about your suggestion that I go
Fuck myself with a 27" dildo with metal spikes...because of my bad behaviour. Bravo! That sentence is succinct,to the point, and has me howling. Should our paths ever cross we'll probably end up laughing a lot. Thanks for yr post

 
Well, T.... that was only part of the bigger picture I was drawing, and I was addressing several different aspects of the conversation here on this board, and again... I AM after all, an erotic companion, clearly a bit naughty (quite happily so, as a woman that is  a.) very comfortable in my own skin and..   b.) a lifetime committed sensualist and erotic artist and companion), ...so of course I truly understand that it "goes with the territory", so to speak  : )    

 
That said, everyone falls at a unique point on the spectrum of sexuality in terms of tastes, needs, desires, opinion, and as noted in this thread, individual means of personal expression (couth or not) in a forum such as this one  -  both the seekers, and we girls, as the potential objects of your fantasy and desire on all kinds of different levels...    

 

Also, i need to be very clear here that i would *never, ever* wish to say that the positive reviews (clearly also entirely graphic : ) that i've received here are not *deeply* appreciated with lifelong thanks & true kindness for all I have intimately known in such ways...  and, if those people feel mostly that same way about me, then we really *did* do something FUN, nice, maybe even special, often wonderful, mostly only mutually fulfilling, & lastingly positive, in terms of our memories of one another...  that would be my ultimate goal with *anyone* I intimately and erotically connect with.   : )

 
To me, these things are just as important as the "fair exchange of gift$"...  

 
in my mind (call me old fashioned, or as someone recently referred to me as "she's a little weird" what would be the use of erotically connecting with people, If I had no expectation from  *myself*  to make sure that exceptional experiences are mutually shared, in every aspect possible ?  

 

Of course there has to be the graphically physical and very visual aspects, but most often I have found that genuine "Emotional Content" as Bruce Lee once said, in 'Enter the Dragon' , open mentality, strong intellect, good humor, shared culture, & real substance, are a part of what makes real happiness just *happen*, and total *mutual* satisfaction, the most possible.  

 

As both a woman and companion that *does* care about the time, feeling, emotion, intellect, needs, desires, and fantasies of my special friends ( I never liked the word "client"), that we will never forget those moments and adventures we shared, and if possible, to not only meet expectations, but try to far exceed them, every time.  

 

I know there HAS to be the physical, but also, as someone once said  "The very best sex organ that human beings possess, is the one between our ears"   ... *that* is the one that drives ***all*** of this, beyond the purely physical aspects... and the one that I place most of my stock in.  

 

So... if ANY one of us out here, is going to give that much of real, heartfelt, and genuine self into something, I suppose that it would not be too unreasonable to expect the same respectfulness in return, even in the most sometimes crudely graphic terms, yes ?  

 

It's not a matter even so much to me of concern of graphic terms... that would be entirely hypocritical of me.... that *IS* a part of eroticism & sexuality in escorting & erotic arts... but here's something that might surprise you... some of the *very* best times I have ever had, and also accompanied by the greatest $$$ rewards, were those people I spent more time engaging mind-blowingly awesome intellect, deep emotion, real personal experience, true passion, comfort, compassion, non-judgment no matter of age or ability, depth of cultural experience, mutual learning and adventure, going far beyond stereotypical images or fears, and opening up new realms of personal exploration and genuine friendship, and in ways that only can be described as mutually "phenomenal".

 

that's not something one can easily describe in definitions of just purely physical, or only graphically descriptive AND coldly clinical nature, as if no more than commentating on plays in a game, to a captive audience...   "down, set, Hike!!! to her ass and tits and mouth.. lololol  

 
 
it is the kind of dialogue that goes beyond the purely graphic physical, that I must contribute to, suggest, initiate, and offer,  as that is not only the nature of how I view my own relationship to the art, but also who and what I really am as a person and human being.  A woman that deeply cares of not *just* the $$$ being given, but sometimes just as importantly, the *how* and *why* in the most respectful terms for *both* of us.  

 

If some find that "weird", then that differs from my own self-perception, and all I can say is that not everyone is a good match for everyone else.

 

ahhh... so little time... so many keystrokes left in one life to make

 

ohhhh.... and the results are just now coming in on the ol' teletype here...  seems like the plaintiff in this case, Timotl, has in fact been ruled in favor of,  as being  "Pretty Awesome"   lololol....  

 
LoveRespectAlways,

Namaste'

 

 
AngelaGirl

 

"the beatings will continue until moral improves" (old pirate philosophy.. arrrrrrr, ye scurvy lubbers)

 
"argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours" ~ Richard Bach ~ "Illusions"

-- Modified on 3/2/2014 8:25:57 PM

ummm.... well...that was self opinion combined with personal experience, so I suppose you will just simply have to find out for yourself, if you *reeeeeaaallly* wanna know the answer to that one, love...  : )  

 
ok... so I suck... but maybe so do you... we'll just have to compare notes, I guess...  ; )  

 

...heck, I've even been told I could suck the chrome right off a trailer hitch, if I tried hard enough...  me luv you loooonnnng time...  : )  ...hahahahallolololl  

 


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..actually, I would prefer to do the honors, just as a further disciplinary measure... and I *promise*, I will be gentle... honest I will... would you prefer lube, or no lube ?   hahahahalololol    :-

Mmm, I like this evil side of you .