Hello All,
Well I read this post great interest. One because I am the "straight" girl and two because it is a good discussion. Please bear with me as I do not have all of your names down yet. In the initial post the writer addressed "straight" girls wanting to have sex with TS's as a way to play out there lesbianism without crossing the line. Where that may be true for some girls, and I can see how mentally a female could feel that way. I can only speak for myself when I say my reason for being attracted to TS's has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with me playing out any lesbian fantasies in my mind. I am 100% straight. I look at women and can say yes shes attractive, has nice tits a nice ass and all that, but the thought of being with a woman disgust me. I personally find a womans vagina to be quite gross. I mean don't get me wrong I love my kitty and all but I feel like there is only enough love in my body for love of one kitty and I am currently holding that title myself. (And I don't see my fall from my own grace happening anytime soon!)
To me the idea of being with a TS is appealing because it incorporates the mind, and physical appeal of a woman BUT with dick. To be blunt about it nothing turns me on more than dick. So if I could have an attractive face, nice breast, and a big cock, hell Im happy as pig in shit. But again like I said I cant speak for all woman I only speak for myself.
Now the second thing I want to address is what TS Alter Ego said about guys who see TS's generally do not consider them self bi or gay. I agree 100% with that statement. I feel shes absolutely right in saying that. Being a female provider I also do alot of BDSM session. To be frank I am very into the BDSM scene. I would say 90% of my male BDSM clients are into some sort of strap-on/ass play. I have asked many of them have they ever thought about or been with a TS. About 60 % said they have been with TS's. The 40% who said no also said they hadn't because then they would feel like they were gay. I asked them why so because there letting me stick a fake cock in them whats the difference? I generally get the same lame ass reply "well your a real girl and have breast and a vagina."
A vagina to which they don't fuck and TS's have breast as well which I try to explain. I feel like how guys feel about it has to do with there particular morals and beliefs. Ok well thats all I wanted to say. I think I am going to like this forum ![]()
"TSAlterEgo" brought up an intersting point in another thread which I think deserves further discussion - especially from the other girls.
For some reason GG girls almost always seem to see T-girls as guys in drag, no matter how femme we are. Even the lesbians I know want me mostly because i have a penis - not because I'm a girl too. (Or maybe it's just because I can fix their car...)
It's sort of the reverse of the guy/gay thing. Where many of our ts admirers like a girl with a cock but find gay men replusive.
The lesbian girls sort of see hooking up with me for "straight" sex as "OK" like they aren't "selling out" their lesbianism or something because we are girls.
And the straight girls can sort of play as lesbians without actually crossing the line.
I also find that while I prefer to be submissive with men, I'm almost always in the traditional dominate role with females, whether it's in bed or not.
Have any of you other girls had similar experiences? Guys - what do you think?
Giggle,
TS Jamie ![]()
Well, I like TS girls but don't like men. That is because TS girls are GIRLS in their hearts, minds and bodies only they have a penis and balls. So what I am really getting from a TS is great time with a special girl.
I don't know anything about the approach gays and lesbians take to sex with TS girls, but I am sure some of them are conflicted. But for me sex with a TS is sex with a girl --- a very special one.
I've noticed a few general trends but there are always excpetions.
1. Many hobbyists who like TS girls do not consider themselves gay or even bi -- contrary to the POV of homophobes who typically consider any guy who likes TS girls to be gay. Speaking for myself, I would be OK with me if I WERE gay or bisexual, but it is apparent to me from my "conversations" with my own libido that I am not. On the other hand, when I go TS, it is pretty clear that my preference is to be topped. The best explanation I've heard is that being with a TS girl releases my inner slut and sub. With the right GG, that inner slut/sub surfaces as well.
2. Many but not all T-girls seem to prefer non-gay guys.
3. T-girls are not always into T-girls. Jamie may be an exception, as apparently are Melissa and Sasha.
4. Jamie's relationship with her partner seems a lot like a butch/femme lesbian relationship. I'm therefore not surprised that Jamie tends to be dominant with women. The fact that she's submissive with men is interesting. So Jamie, when I finally get to San Diego and meet hyou and your partner, who's going to f**k me in the ass?
-- Modified on 10/6/2007 1:11:45 PM
Jessica will... and if you get me "excited" I'll follow. giggle ![]()
1) Great comments AlterEgo. I agree, almost without exception the gents I've dated do not identify as gay. Men who date t-girls in my experience are not gay, they are interested in GIRLS. Girls with cocks are still girls.
Even if a guy is interested in being topped by a t-girl, it doesn't make him gay. I've been with very masculine men who enjoy greek as much as I do. And "Mistress Jamie" has made plenty of straight men into sissy boys for a few hours. It's just for fun.
2) Yes, I think most t-girls want men who want them as women. Whereas gay guys want men, who identify as men.
3) I agree most t-girls are not interested in other t-girls sexually. Though I do think girls in the hobby are more confident and open with their sexuality. I know plenty of celibate transsexuals.
Before I met Jessica I'd had sex with a t-girl exactly one time. I like men. I had never in my wildest dreams considered a relationship with another transsexual.
Then two years ago I met Jessica. Wasn't looking for a relationship, neither was she. We became best friends and here we are. It just happened, two girls in love. What can we say. It works.
And yes - as "AlterEgo" mentions, Jessica and I do have an interesting relationship. I seem to be the more dominate, mostly because I'm the older girl, but she is my "top." I'm her wife. She's my princess. Like everyone else I adore her. Sometimes I spank her when she's bad... ![]()
Giggle,
TS Jamie ![]()
PS - October 20th we're going to have our 2nd aniversary party at the SRO bar in San Diego - all our friends here on TER are invited - we'll bring pizza for the bar - and maybe some free DVD's for our boys! Buy your own drinks! Giggle.
Hello All,
Well I read this post great interest. One because I am the "straight" girl and two because it is a good discussion. Please bear with me as I do not have all of your names down yet. In the initial post the writer addressed "straight" girls wanting to have sex with TS's as a way to play out there lesbianism without crossing the line. Where that may be true for some girls, and I can see how mentally a female could feel that way. I can only speak for myself when I say my reason for being attracted to TS's has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with me playing out any lesbian fantasies in my mind. I am 100% straight. I look at women and can say yes shes attractive, has nice tits a nice ass and all that, but the thought of being with a woman disgust me. I personally find a womans vagina to be quite gross. I mean don't get me wrong I love my kitty and all but I feel like there is only enough love in my body for love of one kitty and I am currently holding that title myself. (And I don't see my fall from my own grace happening anytime soon!)
To me the idea of being with a TS is appealing because it incorporates the mind, and physical appeal of a woman BUT with dick. To be blunt about it nothing turns me on more than dick. So if I could have an attractive face, nice breast, and a big cock, hell Im happy as pig in shit. But again like I said I cant speak for all woman I only speak for myself.
Now the second thing I want to address is what TS Alter Ego said about guys who see TS's generally do not consider them self bi or gay. I agree 100% with that statement. I feel shes absolutely right in saying that. Being a female provider I also do alot of BDSM session. To be frank I am very into the BDSM scene. I would say 90% of my male BDSM clients are into some sort of strap-on/ass play. I have asked many of them have they ever thought about or been with a TS. About 60 % said they have been with TS's. The 40% who said no also said they hadn't because then they would feel like they were gay. I asked them why so because there letting me stick a fake cock in them whats the difference? I generally get the same lame ass reply "well your a real girl and have breast and a vagina."
A vagina to which they don't fuck and TS's have breast as well which I try to explain. I feel like how guys feel about it has to do with there particular morals and beliefs. Ok well thats all I wanted to say. I think I am going to like this forum ![]()
I don't consider a person gay to see a ts girl.I don't think it's gay at all.The ts thing is a big gray area.If a ts was with a gg i wouldn't call that girl a lesbian either.
You TS GIRLS are in class all by yourselfs is what I'm trying to say.Gay lesbian ts straight who cares as long as your happy thats all that matters.
One of the reasons I came back to TS girls is cause of all the lesbian action with supposedly "straight" girls. I dont believe Bisexuality exists.
Luckily it has been my experience that most TS really prefer men.
I'm not anti lesbian. Girls should do what they like. I just hate girls that act straight to get guys but really dig girls and not guys. The 'straight' sex for them is all an act.
Now that I'm no longer looking for love and gave up dating, I'm splitting my time between TS and strippers.
I don't just pigeonhole people into "guy" or "girl" -- I see it as a selection with several different choices. I have certain things I like that just can't happen with GG partners, such as mutual cocksucking. There are also some things that I choose not to indulge in, such as bottoming -- I've tried it enough to know that it isn't my thing, and I feel absolutely no need to spend time, money, and energy in confirming it one more time. I fell to discussing the subject with one of my favorite GG providers once, and she pushed me to let her bring over a strap-on to top me. I told her I'd do it, but that my Greek rate was $400 per hour, whereupon we both laughed and she dropped the subject.
I have a certain body type that I like in just about any partner (though I'll certainly consider many other options) -- slender, toned, short hair, mildly butchy or androgynous or jockish presentation; Katee Sackhoff, Allison Stokke, and Carrie Ann Moss are all great examples of what I'm talking about. I don't particularly like fake boobs, especially not huge ones. I'm also not a big fan of craggy features, or of generous padding; I know that's hard to quantify, and I try hard to be clear on the difference between "I like this and not that" and "This is good and this is bad".
When it gets down to the action, for me there's nothing that does it quite so much as sliding my cock into a partner willing and eager to have me inside them. There's a certain psychological kick in it for me to anal as well, but vaginal intercourse is just about as good. I like watching my partner as I'm fucking them, and listening to them as well. It's especially good to see a partner furiously stroking their hard cock while I'm fucking them in the ass, but rolling your eyes back into your head and moaning is extra-special, too.
In short, I'm looking for an experience with a specific person, not just members of a specific class. I may have times when my urges push me more in one direction than in another, or when a certain someone catches my eye more than anyone else, but it's the attraction I feel for a specific individual that makes me go see them. Yes, there can be other factors that limit my selection menu -- availability, budget, timing, novelty. However, it's very rare that I find myself saying, "I think I'd like to have a boy today", or "Yep, it's girls for lunch, you bet", or "I can't make up my mind -- better have a TS"!
If I'm in the mood to see that Carrie Ann Moss look-alike, it doesn't make much difference to me what her genitalia look like -- I'll find something to do with her no matter what. ![]()
