While I am new to all of this, I have done a lot of research since finding TER.  I have learned enough that I have begun trying to contact providers.  I have tried to follow the "rules", and be respectful, but I am not having any success.  I had no idea it going to be this much of a hassle!  

  Being my first time at this, I will only consider providers with a TER ID, and more than one review.  That automatically narrows my possibilities.  Another limiting aspect is, I am looking for  a "girl-next-door" type.  Maybe once I get comfortable, I will take some chances on the more, "exotic"  looking providers.

   I have tried twice.  The first had an Only Fans link, so I followed her there, even tipped a couple of times, and got a conversation started.  Her fist language was Spanish, so I used translator software to communicate with her.  I told her I was going to call her to set up an appointment.  I called and left a voice mail, using my hobby phone.  No response.  I waited a couple of days and contacted her via OF.  She said she disconnected that number.  Two days later she was running her ad on TS Escorts...same phone number.  Don't know what I did wrong, but I'll be damned if I am begging!

  The second time.  I saw her ad on TS Escorts Thursday evening, and everything looked good.  On Friday around 1:00 PM I called, got her voice mail and left a message with my number.  Never heard anything back.
   
Questions,
  Are voice mails common?  Will they return a message? Or do I keep calling, and at what point does it become bothersome?  

Are afternoon appointments uncommon?  If they are how do I figure out if they will do afternoon appointments?

  I would like to establish some sort of communication before booking an appointment.  I don't want to waste their time, but I also want to make sure there is some ability to communicate , and not about services provided, just sort of communication. How do I do this if there is no OF link?    (I am looking for more of a GFE experience, than a wham-bam-thank-ya-mam experience for my first time.)

On sites like TS Escorts, do providers only post their listing when taking calls?  I noticed with my second attempt, when I went back out to the site her listing wasn't there.  The night before her listing said she was "back in town".  

I apologize for all the questions!  I did look into the newbie section and the link for "Contacting a Provider" does not work.  I also searched the entire board for Contacting a Provider, and could not find anything...so here I am.  Also I think the trans provider might be a little different from other providers...just a hunch.

Any advice, tips, suggestions, would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks for your time...

Calling “live” ads where I will arrive at the ladies place within an hour. I never call when the ad isn’t either very recent or if I’m not ready to go. There’s a handful of ladies that will schedule and keep appointments, but most really just want you ready to go within an hour.

I do my research ahead of time and know who is generally going to be around. I search Eros and tsescort and ts4rent for whose is active at that moment and maybe transx as well. I live a ways from where the majority of ladies are in LA/SFV and also OC so I usually don’t even make a call until I’m cleaned up and in the car ready to go.

Voice mails are extremely uncommon. I would never recommend trying to get a girls attention by tipping on only fans. First you’re giving her money for no services. Second only fans will flag you for mentioning hobby related words in DMs ie escort, meet, meet up, incall, etc  

Best bet is to stick with the reviewed ladies and try a phone call. If no answer send a text. Communication is spotty with a lot of working girls and they’re not known for being punctual

Most everyone goes thru this learning curve. Good move looking at reviews here, but it seems your general expectations of providers' integrity may be far too elevated for this venue. There's a sizable percentage who may dislike or even resent having to do this for a living and wholly disengage from the usual politesse of interpersonal transactions, focusing exclusively on short-term monetary gains.
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New Girl M.O.
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Call and text with your picture only once to ask about her availability and only when you are ready to meet.
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Once inside her place, demonstrate by body language (military) and position (near exit) that you're ready to walk away.
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Tell her what you want when face to face (even if already mentioned via phone), and ask her $XXX.
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When she responds, watch for subtle signs she's being deceitful such as evasiveness, lack of eye contact, forced enthusiasm, downcast demeanor, or outright bitchyness.
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Give money only after she says yes, if you believe her.

Your mileage WILL vary.

I get a strong feeling that something like 2/3rds of those who lead with their OF info are only interested in OF subscribers, i.e. aren't really out there to meet physically.  Perhaps it's only 1/3rd or some other figure.  There's one gal in my area that I've been tempted to TOFTT (take one for the team, i.e. see her in spite of no reviews) but when I finally got in touch with her, it was, "I only see guys who subscribe to my OF..." and she's essentially off my list.  (Though I might give it another shot some day to see if she still holds onto that policy.)

Other than that, I don't think anything is common or typical.  Some ladies prefer text messages, others will ignore text messages or block anyone who sends them text messages.  Many will not take calls from numbers that don't show a caller ID, or calls/texts from apps like Textfree.  Some may blow off all voice mail and only talk to guys who happen to call when she's ready to pick up.  (Others will pick up even while they're fucking some other guy! Grrr...)

Many of the ladies travel quickly, 1, 2, or 3 nights in one town, then onto another.  If someone has consistent listings in one particular city/area, chances are she'll be there tomorrow or next week or whenever you're aiming for.

After that, I think it's just a matter of tact: sometimes a voice mail or text like "I'm Joe and I want to suck your big cock - how much?" will be too explicit and get you ignored/blocked.  I usually go with something rather generic like, "HI, I'm John and I saw your ad and I am interested in meeting..." maybe adding some potentially pertinent info like, "I'm an average build middle aged white guy" or some such.  Sometimes the ads request info like that.

Another hint that a lady is active is when she has some recent reviews.

Signing up for VIP here is worthwhile.   It can be had for cash or via submitting reviews.  (Or problem reports, but I think that problem reports might only re-up previously paid-for or earned VIP ... could be wrong.)

Thank you for your advice!  I had no idea the listings were time based.  I thought the ads were up while they were in town.  I do check TS Escorts, and just got an account set up at TS4 rent.  I will definitely adjust my approach.  Thanks again for your help!

I guess I should have known...thanks for taking the time.  It is appreciated!

Thank you, this advice really helps!

Hi there..... : )

Been awhile since i've been on the boards, but... every now and then i'll pop in and maybe share a little something from the provider side of things....  
 

My way of doing things has always been very anti-typical as far as i know...but over many years it has generally worked well for me, and as a mature woman and one of the more experienced providers (circa start around 2006 - as a high-end agency girl, 4 years before my first review appeared here)...so i have a wealth of thoughts...
 

My very very first thing i have to say to newer/new/newbie explorers is never, expose any part of your life (i.e. phone, voicemail, email, text, name, photo, etc,) to *any* so-called upscale provider  *before*  having done your due diligence, AND having voice contact with them first - Anyone can have a keyboard or phone and text, especially the ripoffs, fakes, and flakes.  
 

There have always been the higher percentage of girls, whether TS or GG that are, rude, entitled, immersed in OF or other forms of remote contact, or desperate, damaged, needing to only turn numbers, and so forth...and many could care less of your discretion, much less if you may be a an actual gentlemanly person or not.... You just cant take the risk of your desires being exposed by an aspiring ripoff artist or blackmailing idiot of a so-called provider, just because your desire got ahead of your LogicalThinkBox first... : )
   

I personally also don't think its wise to agree to deposits on services, for the same types of reasons as mentioned above - unless you are layered for security, everything leaves a trace - i.e. all forms of electronic/virtual funds platforms of any kind.  Also, I have known too many newbie friends that have been thru the whole deposit mess and cannot name a single one that ever got what they paid for after sending a small deposit (25, or 40, or 50 or 100$), much less ever saw the person when they got to the fake address given by the utterly unprincipled scam artist of a provider.  
 

The only exceptions i would make are for travel and extended stays and high-end arrangements that sayyyyyy, involve a P411 member for example that wishes to book me well in advance and has their own trackable solid provider references and is even willing to offer gifts as a true gentleman for the time spent in booking me whether they cancel or cant make it due to travel/change of plans. etc....  Even then i am hesitant to use EP (electronic payment forms) just because cash is king, frankly, and much more discreet for all parties concerned if you have your own discretionary funds that no one will question that you pulled out 3 or 4 or 500 that particular day or week. I'm also a legit self employed corporate girl so i have to be careful what shows up in my cashapp or paypal when it comes to accounting.  
 

....and this one.... my own personal standards for screening are (you would see this in all of my ads and media for years), "No Text Dates".... many here will disagree with this, but i stand on it firmly and sharply, especially nowadays more than ever.   I will politely return polite texts and properly discreet texts, and see what happens from there, but i will always ask two main things: 1) may i please politely ask what site/where you found me ? (that gives me context as well as helps me know what photos or bio they may have seen or read)  ...and.. 2) if anything like a polite non-sketchy response comes back, i will also always ask if you would please be so kind as to be able to call me?  
 
....now--- granted - i am well aware that many of my seekers will have very high levels of discretionary needs - corporate/married/mil/shy/newbie/etc and that calling me at the moment they are trying to get info or connect with me may not be feasible or possible for them for all kinds of reasons....

If the text dialogue progresses with responses as equally polite, warm, and articulate as i  *always*  am, then i will feel a little more comfortable in moving towards sharing some personal basics, answering non-graphic questions, and leading to hopefully a scheduled phone call, or time to work towards meeting.....BUT.... these days i find that just as many inquiries are also rude or sketchy or flighty or shy or scared, or even may think my politely asking for a phone call is some kind of game (which it is not, and has never been)...... SO.... i have not made a "text-only date" in years & utterly refuse to do so based on 98% of prior experiences except for a rare few that someone was able to provide references or real life info & credentials via text and/or email,  and we both cautiously approached the text only contact, & agreed to meet in a public place first (coffee shop, hotel bar/restaurant/etc)...

 
In my world there will never be any substitute for being able to talk in real time, speak warmly, share a proper hello, and have a few minutes of mature, sane, down to earth dialogue where we can both feel mutually comfortable and ask questions and share as much as we are each comfortable with doing. Text cannot ever replace hearing another human's voice, tone, texture, reactions, and for me, text will never be a safe/sane way to duplicate that kind of dialogue in my own experience as the number *one* screening requisite for me.  If there is no verbal chemistry, or the person seems truly cold/transactional or over the top in their language, or starts fishing for sexy details etc etc....  i will always politely screen myself away from that.  If we can make each other smile, chuckle, share, or surprise one another with mutual politeness, culture, intelligence, good humour, warmth, & etiquette...then, and only then, am i "all-in".
 

..and speaking of etiquette..... i also advocate that its truly important to actually *Read* the companions bio/ad fully. Not only does this give you important information that may protect you from having a bad experience or less than a good one (perfect examples are ads full of over-the-top suggestive emojis, extremely poor language or simply preponderance of crude language, etc), and also.....even though i deeply appreciate the compliment  - that say - a decent fellow saw my ad, looked at my photos, didn't read hardly a word, and called just because he liked what he saw....  I appreciate that, & i truly do take it as a compliment....  however,  that same person may not even know my name, age, didn't look for my suggested gift rates, or see where advance dates are required/preferred (while calling me at 2am from 30 miles away), or anything else i very purposefully wrote in that ad, in order to both inform and screen.    I (and certainly many other providers) may consider that truly poor etiquette - but - sometimes it comes with good intentions (especially for inexperienced/newbies), and many times has ended up being a good fellow that just simply loved my pics and we ended up hitting it off, but only after allowing me the "conversation" to screen them, of course).

 
Myself and other openly warm upscale women may write ads and sites that are intended to be read fully, so that when you do finally reach out to me, you already know my general area of location, my rates, my name and age, and some of the things that we may or may not share in common as far as desires are concerned.   That's just super important and saves a lot of time and hassle especially as i am very anti-transactional and i also **firmly** believe it is a gentleman's responsibility to know a woman's gift/booking requirements before making contact because i do NOT want to haggle or negotiate or discuss terms in text or on the phone if at all possible. Its just not proper or discreet as a general rule.

 
 Just a few foods for thought, love...  
wishing you luck and best as you seek what you want,
 

and..... ~Safe Travels Always~

 
Most kindly,

 
TheAngelaGirl

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