I'm going to get flamed over this one....

Am I nuts here or is this about the size of things?

It seems that gay men that are willing to wear their hear long and have augmentation-have a line out the door of straight/bi/gay men who want to service them. Is that about how this works? From some of these reviews it seems that a Fairy Princess has landed and told them, "If you'll just get breast augmentation surgery and dress as a woman, you'll have more ass than you can possibly imagine, and they'll pay to suck you and fuck you."

Certainly seems that way from some of the reviews and comments from providers.

Actually, the subtle question underlying it all is: what determines identity orientation?

For some, it's a question of sexual orientation, as if that determines their identity.  I'm not in that camp.

For others, it's determined by biological gender, but there's a whole bunch of problems with that one.

The psycho-social development into a transexual is poorly understood; there just haven't been enough proper studies.

I do not believe 99.9% of transexuals get breast augmentation in order to turn tricks for money.  Some do it for survival, some to afford SRS, and others just for fun.

Yea, if someone told me you have to pay up to $50K or more for your transition and have tons of surgery just to get your dick sucked, I'd tell them I will pass and can you please turn on the dvd porn flick and hand me the bottle of lube

In a word....No.  If you think that's how it is, then the  TS hobby is not for you.

No, we're not going to flame you sweetie, because that's not how we do things here, even if a question seems a bit on the rabble rousing side.  

Transsexuals are NOT gay men.  And being transgender is NOT a "lifestyle."  I don't live substantially differently now than I did before I transitioned.  (Well, I do have more money and friends... LOL)

Gender identity has nothing to do with being gay or not.  Why would anyone want to put up with the BS just to get sex?  Now I will agree not every TS girl is a knock out sex goddess, I'm certainly not and don't pretend to be, it's been a few years since I was 21...  My TS-GF has one hot booty though. But I'd still live as a woman even if I never had sex again.  Being TS isn't about sex, that's just a side benefit.

That said, I do personally know one "girl" who told me she had worked as a gay escort and had surgery specifically to make more $$ as a TS.  And I have encountered men who dressed as TV's in order to escort.  I recall one who actually had a pillow stuffed in his/her jeans.  Made me value my flat ass even more, at least mine is real.    That sort of stuff tends to annoy me, because I feel it misrepresents what "real" t-girls are about.

But as often as I sing the praises of TER that's why there are reviews and why you should either date known, reviewed, quality, professional girls or not complain too much when you TOFTT.

If anyone is actually interested in learning more about TS's and the whole gender issue take a look at the "TSRoadMap" web site.

Life is a one way journey, might as well live it fully.

Hugs,
TS Jamie

-- Modified on 5/31/2009 4:00:12 PM

Gay men like men, and I doubt many would agree to a boob job to get "more ass". I think there is actually some tension between the groups. But, I don't know how the TS lifestyle really works. I'm just glad that there are beautiful TS ladies who grace us with their favor. I think that they are men who have decided to be women, and then go through a lot of trouble to be that way. Some are better at it then others, but I've never felt as if I was seeing a gay man. But I'm not sure how that works either, as I've never been with one. Unless of course he had pretty hair, long  legs,  a nice ass, and was basically a woman.
What's important here though is the existence of a Fairy Princess, I thought she was a myth.

For me Gay men just are not what I look for at all, there fine to go shopping with but have sex they get very resentful and god forbid you get incompation with a dragg queen if they like the guy even a little bit ladys walk away they don't play nice at all.
But the thing I think most don't understand is that there is a progression here you don't just wake up one morning drink your coffee and deside your going to be a girl.
I personally started off with wearing panties at 5yrs old then stockings at 7 then dressing for holloween at 10yrs old, then role playing with a girlfriend at 15, then dressing on the weekends the whole time I never thought of were this was comming from or going to. I only knew that I felt better,more comfortable it just felt right, after being a weekend warrior for a few years I started to resent my male side, anytime someone would said my male name I would treat them like shit; that is point when I know I was the biggest ass hole on this planet and I did not want to be.
That is when the work really started for me I was 29 and I hated myself so much that I was taking it out everyone, so I went and got help that person was my mother who knew everything about me she was my best friend, anyway at 30 I went full time with her blessing she even named me again.
I truely hope this will give you some understanding on how some of us become who we are there is even more after you go fulltime like moveing from dateing girl to dateing men only, building selfesteem, dropping the EGO, and findout just were your inner strength comes from, last but not least being ok with you when everone else is not.
the journey yelds its own reward if your lucky.

-- Modified on 6/1/2009 12:07:11 AM

With all respect for your well thought out comment I'd like to add two points please in hopes of clarifying things better for you and others.

One, while it's difficult to classify anyone specifically, "real" transsexuals do not make a choice to be TS or not. Transvestites may, cross dressers do.  Not transsexuals.  That is a clinical fact.

Transsexuals are not "men who have decided to become women," we are women who were born with a penis.  For most it is considered a deformity.  However for various reasons, usually financial, only about 15% of transsexual identified women in the USA will have a complete sex change.

There is a valid argument over whether non-op TS's are a third gender or what, but I'll leave that for another time.  

Regarding appearance, just as genetic women range from beautiful to plain (speaking of plain, Susan Boyle, the singer comes to mind... would you rather date her with a vagina or a hot t-girl with a penis... LOL).

Transsexuals also range from gorgeous (did you know that a few years ago Miss Brazil was a post op TS?  LOL) to needing a shave.  But then a few of your grandmothers may need a shave too.  LOL  

I think where things get confused is that in the sex industry there are TS women who may perform as men (tops) in order to make money for whatever reason.  Also the fact is the majority of men who are interested in dating a transsexual escort do so because they would like to experience sex from a more submissive standpoint.  There is more to this argument also, but we'll defer it for later.


Secondly, there is no "TS Lifestyle."

I think what you are thinking of is the "vampire girls" who only come out after dark to hit the clubs to pick up a "trick."  Or maybe the street trans scene populated by people living sad lives in lower income areas.  But most of those people are not there by choice.

But other than girls with drug or mental problems most t-girls live pretty normal lives.  Most drive decent cars, live in decent housing, may have a relationship.  And you are more likely to run into them at the market than a gay bar.

Anyway, hopes this helps.

Hugs,
TS Jamie

As an old guy (over 60) who has been a ts lover for 40+ years, I have always viewed non-op ts girls, tvs and cds when dressed, post-op ts girls as a third gender.