lets post a list of the worst providers you have ever seen, my two picks are ruby/carmen from boston and ana from florida.

Bless their souls but the worst were Tonya, who is still around and Electria/Kelly. I did better research after these two sessions.

TS Lunar is by far one of the worst. Real Phoney

Stephanie in DC.  Based on her I now regret some earlier, uncomplimentary reviews. I haven't posted the review of her yet, but its coming.

I've only seen three providers and have been pleased with all of them.  Unfortunately, this topic is going to give Wilber21/John/ Who-Knows-What Other-Alias another opportunity to engage in Mia-bashing.  That old fart needs to give it up and get a life.

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Did you mean Luna or Lunar?  I ask because I've been interested in meeting Luna after seeing her pictures on Eros.  

This is one of the more valuable discussion threads I've ever seen here.  Thanks.

Many thanks to everyone who has TOFTT.  The list so far in alphabetical order:


TS Ana (ssteveowens) – Miami/Vegas/SF, (http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=71732) new phone# 305-528-7368 on website, only two very poor reviews from Feb-06, this profile TS Claudia/TS Ana – Miami/Boston/etc., (http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=27570&page=2#Review) is appartently the same lady (search on new phone# above), two pages of poor reviews back to 2002

TS Carmen/TS Rubi (ssteveowens) – Boston/NY, (http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=38099) new phone# 781-321-5095 on website, nine consistently poor reviews, current Eros ads in Boston (http://www.erostranssexuals.com/boston-files/bo-rubi1-rubi1.htm) and visiting NY (http://www.erostranssexuals.com/new_york-files/bo-rubi1-rubi1.htm)  thru 23-Nov

TS Electra/Kelly (methuselah) – LA/SF, (http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=31128) six of seven reviews are 7’s or better (sorry methuselah but your review might appear to be a case of YMMV), website in TER profile needs updating – current Eros ad: TS Kelly (http://www.erostranssexuals.com/san_francisco-files/la-paulina12-kelly1.htm)

TS Lunar (hueyrotorhead) – no TER profile or Eros ad under this name; in this forum on 9/22/06 davidp_03053 requested 411 on Lunar in Boston? (http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?BoardID=19&SortBy=DateCreated%20desc&Search=luna&SearchType=1&DayFrom=1000&DayTo=0&MessageID=19654&frmSearch=1) and provided a craigslist link which is no longer active, there is however a current warning (http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ers/234415371.html) on craigslist with photos; zoofly’s question is also a good one - there has recently been a TS Luna traveling and advertising on Eros (my recollection is that she doesn’t look anything like craigslist warning photos); there are three TER profiles for TS Luna’s (none with active websites), London – asian, one average review from Jul-06 (http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=79317); Boston - latina, last modified 4/30/05 but no reviews (http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=58699); and Toronto – white, one mediocre review from Mar-03 (http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=24712); perhaps hueyrotorhead would be so kind as to clarify this issue?

TS Stephanie (zoofly) – DC, (http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=70633) only one review from Dec-5 by a reviewer with 15 reviews, he rates her performance as a 9, zoofly has promised us his own review, website link needs updating – possible current Eros ad (http://www.erostranssexuals.com/washington_dc-files/dc-jessica115-stephanie1.htm).

TS Tonya (methuselah) – Miami, (http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=25645) two pages of mixed reviews back to 2003


BTW - Tweed0246 reports three great experiences (http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=20340&boardID=19&page=3) with Mia Isabella (Chicago - http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=64242&page=1#Review) so I know he is NOT nominating her for inclusion.  There has been MUCH discussion about Mia in this forum but I’ll provide you with this interesting note – Mia’s WORST review under this profile is by a “tweed246” who rates her performance average, she has ten other reviews all 7’s or better.  FYI - there are numerous ‘Mia’ and ‘Isabella’ TS profiles which I have not checked to determine if there are any duplicates, but nothing else comes up under her current phone#.

Kelly’s photos are very hot, since her reviews would seem to contradict methuselah’s nomination I’ll leave you with her photo with which to contemplate the axiom ‘YMMV’:  

Regards,

TS Tempted

edited to insert links, sorta messy now - too bad the tags didn't work...

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Thanks for providing this public service.  The fact that Mia Isabella has ANY review from "tweed0246" shocks me, the original Tweed0246, because I've NEVER written a review about ANYONE!  (Sorry about that.) "tweed0246" is obviously an imposter and is probably Wilber/John - Mia's gadfly.  As my first session with Mia was concluding, she and I talked about reviews and I told her, to her slight disappointment, that I wouldn't write a review.  That said, I will reiterate - my 3 sessions with her have been excellent!  Money well-spent and she never asked for the money, nor did she watch the clock.  We went WAY over time and she only charged me for an hour.  A total sweetheart and what a looker!

Panther from NY . A nightmare .

TS Tempted: That is a great picture of Kelly isn't it? That's what drew me to see her. I'm not sure if it's that my millage varied, her meds that ran out, or the other reviews weren't accurate, but after you see her I'll read your review with great interest.

Here is TS Lunar and my post on him. Without a doubt a true nutcake.

Unfortunately there haven’t been many more nominations so the list hasn’t grown to be very long – there must be additional candidates so please don’t hesitate to step forward with your 411.  

Without further ado, here’s the revised list, again in alphabetical order:

TS Carmen/TS Rubi (ssteveowens) – Boston/NY
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=38099
New phone# 781-321-5095 on website, nine consistently poor reviews

TS Claudia/TS Ana – Miami/Vegas/SF/Boston/etc.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=27570&page=2#Review
Two pages of poor reviews back to 2002

TS Lunar (hueyrotorhead) – Boston
No TER profile or Eros ad under this name; however, there is a current warning on craigslist with photos: http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ers/234415371.html

TS Panther (landito) – NY
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=8552
Five reviews, all pretty average, most recent Sep-02, no current website, no Eros ad

TS Tonya (methuselah) – Miami
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=25645
Two pages of mixed reviews back to 2003


Pending:

TS Stephanie (zoofly) – DC
http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=70633
Only one review from Dec-05 by a reviewer with 15 reviews, he rates her performance as a 9, zoofly has promised us his own review – possible current Eros ad:
http://www.erostranssexuals.com/washington_dc-files/dc-jessica115-stephanie1.htm


See reply following this post for explanations and comments.  Photo below is of Stephanie whose status is pending additional 411 from zoofly:

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Thanks hueyrotorhead for your confirmation on Lunar.  

No offense to methuselah but I decided to drop Electra/Kelly from the list.  She does have a number of good reviews including a recent one from another apparently legitimate source.  Methuselah is also a reliable and frequent contributor to this board so I take him at his word.  His experience with Kelly was clearly awful and unfortunate and he should be thanked for posting a detailed review with this information.  His experience was obviously much more than YMMV…

It also seems that there is a preponderance of discussion on Mia Isabella such that everyone should be able to draw their own conclusions, so I have continued to leave her off the list as well because she also seems to have her supporters and a number of very good legitimate reviews.


Beyond YMMV

There are many profiles of both GG’s and TS’s where the reviews run from good/great to average or maybe even the occasional poor review.  Generally when you read these reviews there just was something off or there was just not any ‘click’ between the two that day, i.e. ‘YMMV’.  However, I think we need another term to describe the type of experience like methuselah’s experience with Kelly or wilbur21 and luvshungshemales with Mia Isabella.  There is such a huge disconnect or inconsistency that something much more is taking place than just ‘YMMV’.  It almost seems like they are dealing with two different providers.  This information is important because it allows others to understand that there may be some issues/risks with these ladies and these experiences should be weighed in deciding to book an appointment.

Let’s face it, this is a high stress business.  The day-to-day reality is that these ladies have to deal with assault, robbery, harassment, STD’s and lots of people who want something for nothing.  Not to mention hormonal swings from their treatment regimens (and you think GG’s have it bad…).  Even if they are not on other psychoactive prescription or recreational drugs, they’ve got their own personal problems too just like the rest of us.  People have bad days and do stupid things.  

I also think it is commendable that this information is made available in reviews and posts as a form of feedback so that the ladies can also learn from these experiences.  For example, Mia perhaps should take away that she should treat new clients or even people that she does not intend to see with more respect when scheduling appointments – what can that cost her and won’t it only help her in the long run?  Kelly should probably take away that no matter how bad she may need the work, if she is uncomfortable for some reason she will be much better off in the long run when she refunds an honorarium and turns a client away than trying to muddle through a bad experience.  Clients need to remember to be respectful in these instances as well, more than likely it may not even have anything to do with them.

Again, I want us to be able to distinguish from consistently poor reviews with bad providers as opposed to cases of extreme YMMV or out-of-character inconsistencies.  Just so you know that I am not completely without a few suggestions how about:

‘PMSE” for those ‘pre-menstrual syndrome experiences’
‘WSOTB’ for got up on the ‘wrong side of the bed’ that day?
‘TPS’ for ‘the perfect storm’ experience
‘OHM’ for ‘off her/his meds’

So, come on, I know you guys can be very clever.  So doesn’t anyone have any better suggestions that we can adopt for a short hand way to describe the type of experience or inconsistency that is beyond YMMV for an otherwise well reviewed and respected provider?

Regards,

TS Tempted

Leaving aside TS Tempted's endless fascination with what makes these girls tick, it seems to me that what started this thread is that a significant number of TS providers provide truly poor service in ways in which GG providers almost never do.  First there are the true rip-off artists, the TS girls who rely on their knockout appearance and/or the desperation of clients to the point where they believe that they dont have to do ANYTHING except stand there to earn 300/400.  Based on reviews, Ana is probably the worst.  Second there are TS girls -- and there are MANY of these -- who are completely unreliable in terms of making appointments and being available when they say they are going to be.  And they dont care.  So you drove two hours to suck my TS cock, too bad, some guy just offered me 600, I'm not answering my phone.  Guys, GG providers do NOT act this way, and anyone who did would lose so many clients so fast she'd have to have to start working at KMart.  In the straight hobbying world, service and respect for clients actually means something; it's part of what the hobbyist pays for.      

I suggest that from now on, our posts and reviews send a clear message that hobbyists and providers should treat each other with respect.  If a TS provider can't meet that standard, then she should be publicly criticized until she changes her attitude or simply leaves us alone.

On a positive note, we should consistently  praise and recommend TS providers who are not only hot but are also quality people who treat their clients with respect.

Is there a way to contact you off line?  TSAG

Would love to but since we both use alias's in this forum how do we do that?  Neither of us have that little email tag in our alias like methuselah has in his post next to his handle...

I suppose we could both email someone from this forum if they wouldn't mind making the introduction LOL!  Got any suggestions?

My review of her is posted.  The pictures are accirate. unfortunately my experience was far different than the first reviewer.

I've had this issue come up before.  Sometimes the other guy has given his email address.  My email addy is geographic-specific so I prefer not to publish it widely.

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I agree with what you wrote.

My rudest/worst ones were TS Lola, and another one in Chelsea but I can't remember her name...

There seems to be a double standard between TS and GG’s with respect to scheduling on both sides.  I have spoken to a few TS about this and they have said that it is also partly the clients' fault.  Too many clients will book with a TS and then no show.  Whatever the reasons, they have said that it had been their experience that a great many clients do not follow through with their appointments.  The speculation was that there is just more ‘cold feet’ with a TS appointment.  It really didn’t matter whether or not a client provided a heads up on the cancellation – usually it was too late to re-book and that was an hour or more lost.  

Perhaps this is because there is not enough screening of clients taking place.  If TS were checking references as most GG’s do then a client could not afford a habit of no shows or they couldn’t expect to be able to book many appointments.  My discussions indicate that TS will book in advance for regulars that they have come to know and trust.  Unfortunately the TS experience also seems to be more about variety and/or spontaneity (or maybe instant gratification) than is the norm with GG providers.

I agree with TSAE – it would clearly be beneficial for all concerned if we could overcome this issue and his suggestions are very welcome and long overdue.  Clearly 'no show' activity should be reported to this discussion forum but it also seems that TER should consider a more obvious way to allow 'no show' information to be posted to a provider’s profile since a full blown review seems inappropriate.  

Let’s remember that this is a two-way street and that the clients should also hold themselves to this higher standard – clients who balk on their appointments should expect consequences to their reputations as well.

Regards,

TS Tempted

Thanks zoofly for the recon but so sorry you had to TOFTT:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showReview.asp?Review=548580&user=277992

Here’s a real stinker on TS Claudia/Ana (thanks WS):

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showReview.asp?Review=549181&user=196653

You think rebaha might do a little search on good ‘ol TER before next time?

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to appeal to the lowest common denominator.  TST may be right about that TS hobbyists are also often off kilter when it comes to good behavior, but so what?  Why should this board be a place to encourage bad behavior on either side?  Let's do exactly the opposite -- let's treat TS hobbying with respect and praise providers who combine eroticism with humanity.  See the best TS providers thread above -- let's go to work!

Try sending an email to [deleted].  I look forward to hearing from you soon.

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