OK! So we all know that you guys like TSs. But my question to you is this.............................
If you were not married nor did you have a SO(not that all of you do), but I was wondering. How many of you would actualy date or marry a TS?
How would you feel about bringing her home to meet mom and dad, or all of your friends? Would you worry about someone finding out she might have been born with extra parts? How would you deal with it as far as someone saying smak about her?
I know I am making you think...sorry just curious?

Cheers!!

Would I date or marry a TS?....Sure, I would.

Would I worry about what someone might say?...Hell, no.  If the girl is really important to me then the other people in my life would have to accept and respect her or hit the road.

Saying smak about her?...They could hit the road, RIGHT NOW.

As far as disclosure of "extra parts", that is her decision and if I love her, I will respect it.

Nuff said.

thegiver

Hello Kylie,
Good Question. I feel that the TS is still taboo as was homosexuality 20 yrs. ago.  I think in time TS relationships might be more "acceptable."  As for me, I would NOT be open to dating a TS for the reasons you bring up.

i would be open to dating a tgirl.  now taking one home to the family is another story.

Hi Kylie!
    I would date a TS without a doubt.  Whether or not the relationship would go any further, I honestly couldn't say, because of the reasons you and the previous poster have stated.  If she meant the world to me, I'm sure we'd find our way.
    I'm in developing friendships with two pre-op TS providers that I've seen for several years.  Friendship alone can be difficult.  Besides my "baggage", the girls have theirs(provider, TS).  So far though, I feel my life has been enriched in knowing these girls.
    I've never met a TS outside of the "business".  A long-term relationship with a TS or even with a GG would have a better chance outside of the "business", it would seem.
    What's your opinion?  How do you "handle" guys who want to get more involved with you than you choose?  Could a client ever become a SO?

THATS A VERY GOOD QUESTION  AS FOR ME  I AM CURRENTLY IN A SITUATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DATE A TS AND I THINK SHE WOULD ALSO LIKE THAT, BUT FOR REASONS THAT YOU SAID I AM UNSURE, BUT SHE IS TOTALY PASSABLE SO I DONT THINK ANYONE WOULD FIND OUT UNLESS THEY WERE TOLD AND IF I DO DECIDE TO TAKE THE STEP AND DATE HER  I GUESS IF THE ISSUES CAME UP IN THE FUTURE I WOULD JUST DEAL WITH THEM WHEN THE TIME COMES

ohhhh! the last question fired back at me....THATS A TOUGH ONE!

I think yes a client "could" become more, but it would have to evolve over time, not just like a love at first bite kinda thing? And yes I do believe that it would be tough, knowing that I or any one else for that matter was a provider.

But the question was more of how you, would handle telling if you ever wanted to, your family and friends.I mean with alot of us girls, no one would ever have to know but the man and the woman. But I think it would take a very strong man to be able to do such a thing? Also that man would have to be as strong as the TS Woman in the relationship. After all I think we TSs have big ol balls for being who we are! (figure of speech in my case) hehe

Now all that said.........I will probably be single the rest of my life? OH NO!

Now all that said.........I will probably be single the rest of my life? OH NO!

somehow I doubt that kylie.

this may not be the best place to ask that question...  i think there's plenty of guys willing to date t-girls.  however, they're probably out trying to meet them rather than being on here researching how to hire them...

kylie;
    Is it anyone's business?  It just occured to me that it might be up to you or the TS partner whether anyone should be told.  It should be your choice.
    I think that many people would have difficulty dealing with this information.  Most people seem to live in a more "closed" world, and do not have much contact with anything alternative.
    I enjoy the topics that you bring to this board.  I wish more providers brought their thoughts and opinions here to post.  I often see points of view that hadn't occured to me.

Great question.  I would like to think that I would be able to do it -- but it would be a challenge as you point out.  Have only been with a couple TS's -- have really enjoyed there company -- one in particular have seen multiple times -- I could see having a relationship I guess -- she is very nice and we get along great.  I hope like anyone -- that if the TS provider was someone I really cared about then I would want to date them -- but I guess you never know until you try it.  Great question though -- really made me think.  Good luck!

You are spectacularly beautiful.  I have seen your page on Eros and hope to meet you someday.

I would have no problem with introducing you to my friends or family.

If anyone talked any smack, they would be off my friends list.

I went to a certain college because a couple of my friends who I looked up to as musicians went there.  They listened to black music, and played songs written by black people.  I was shocked when they criticized me for dating a black girl.  It was like suddenly finding myself in the Twilight Zone.  I stopped hanging out with them.

Going to TS providers in this country and in Europe has been a mixed experience, although I have never gone to one who has had SRS like you have.  It can sometimes be highly uninspiring, even depressing when the girl is psycho, greedy, or numb, but then other times it can be fulfilling and a genuinely friendly  and uplifting experience.

Other girls who still look somewhat male may not have it as nice as you do.  And, I might not be as attracted to them.

Hope this answers your question.  See the link for an article I wrote for Urnotalone.com.

Best wishes to you -

- LAA

I'm not as aggressive a dater as most young men my age, that is, I don't typically go "on the hunt" for women that I'd like to date.  Most of my girlfriends have been women who seem enticing under casual circumstances like grocery-shopping, waiting at the car wash, etc.  While I'm certainly attracted to TS women, I have yet to acquaint myself with any that are not providers.  If I were interested in a woman enough to ask her out on a date, only then to find out later that she was TS, that wouldn't turn me off from the relationship.  As far as introducing her to my friends and family, I'm would step out on a limb to try it if the relationship meant that much to me.

Kylie, I have some questions for you, along a similar topic:  I have been with five ts providers.  Four of these women have either offered to waive their fees for me, or have asked me to visit them again whenever I'd like without worrying about paying.  I've paid anyway, but I don't visit them a second time out of fear that they might be interested in me as being more than a customer.  Is this a common practice among providers, perhaps to make a customer feel wanted and thereby ensuring a higher rate of customer return?  Or do you waive your fee when youre attracted to the guy visiting you?  It sure is awkward, whatever the case may be.

Kylie:

My attraction to TS women is a relatively recent one, as you might or might not remember from the time we talked once, but I have yet to actually get together with one in the flesh to see what the experience would be like, so I can only go on the conjecture of my fantasies at this point.
At this point, my only "contacts" with TS women have been via magazines, porno tapes, or talking to a couple from Eros when they were in town. That being said, I have often fantasized and wondered about what it would be like to go with a passable TS versus one that maybe isn't. It all comes down to their appearance. I think I would love going out in public with someone such as Lilienne Li or Sapphire not only because I'm attracted to them for different reasons, but also because they seem so passable and effeminate in my eyes. It would be such a rush not only to come home to them everynight and to introduce either one to friends and strangers as my significant other knowing that my girl was extra special and that we were getting over on everyone knowing of our little secret. I don't know if I could go far enough to say I'd introduce her to family members.
On the other hand, if the woman wasn't as passable as the aforementioned and I was still attracted to her for some reason enough to have relationship, I might relegate and confine our affair to midnight rendevous at our places. I don't think I personally could handle all the whispers and stares from others. Hopefully she would understand my reluctance to have our affair out in the open to everyone but still get a rush out of the illicity of it all.



...My kingdom for Sapphire or Lilienne li!

I would be very open to dating a TS. I also know that my family would not care who I married as long as that person would love me and treat me right. As for my friends if they could not accept who I am in love with and willing to spend the rest of my life with then I would say that they were never really my friends and do not deserve my partners or my friendship.

Certainly I would date or Marry a TS if I cared enough about them... I would not be concerned abuot others opinions either though I would be hesitant to make my choices known until there was an established realtionship! And i would stick up for her just as as I would any other girl friend...

WELL I AM NOT MARRIED OR INVOLVED AT THE MOMENT. OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS I FIND THAT I GET ALONG VERY WELL WITH TS & TV AND WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO DATE A TS WITHOUT THE BUSS PART BEING IN THE WAY. SOME PROBLEMS I FACE ARE I AM NOT WHAT MOST TS LOOK FOR I AM SHORT, BALD AND A BIT OVERWEIGHT NOT ALOT- SO ITS HARD TO MEET TS IN CHICAGO THAT ARE NOT WORKING. MY FAMILY WOULD BE OK WITH IT, IF NOT  THEY HAVE TO RESPECT WHO I AM WITH OR ELSW

I will go with the Younggun response.
FYI, I am single and have no SO.

If she were truly passable, then I would consider dating her.

I do not think I would marry her and take her home to the folks.
Sorry, just my view on it.

Great question, Kylie.  As for dating or marrying a TS, love happens and one can't always help it.  Were I openly dating a TS and someone were to talk smack about her, I would defend her just as I would defend anyone else I cared about.

TS is behind the G/L revolution and still has a way to go, maybe not for ourselves but most certainly for many family members and friends, as tglover said above.  While we and our friends may be willing, the reactions of others is not ours to control.  I would also add that because someone is unwilling to 'out' a relationship, does not necessarily mean that they are embarassed about it.  They may be protecting their own happiness from a family or friendship that is not ready for reality.

Nice article BTW, LAAdmirer.

How many of  you have actually tried? i  had in  the  past with  no  luck! they are fairly nice  to  me when  it  comes to business but ... none had the time for real dating! i  mean even  if  we  tried they might as well refuse the offer! is  not  just what they  really want from a  client! i  would bring (not  the most beautiful,not the most passable) into my  world the girl who will  i  find atracctive in  many  other ways! i'm  not model  material myself neither i  believe the out  side is the  most important  thing that counts in  relationships ., but i  think  we all know that a transsexual provider is use to making  good  money ! and  im  sure many of  them do have boyfriends ., i would with no  doubt go  out with a  ts girl if she will  give  me a  chance., what people thinks of me  or her would  never be a problem for  me, i'm just a man of exclusive choices and  we only  live  once (i  think) my  closest friend is a  lesbian whos  very  open about her relationship! secrets do  kill and  i  have  none., i'm  a free  man,  who loves everything life has to  offer! if any  of  you here really likes one of  the  girls you'v seen ask  her out! you'll find  out is  not  just up  to us., they have choices as well., and  it  has nothing to  do with society! good question Kylie. stay sweet ~

LOL this cracked me up. Recently I had to go "home" (another city far far away) and a friend(TS) here in Houston wanted to visit some of her friends in my hometown.She tagged along for the ride.My family never suspected a damn thing.We stayed at a relatives place for a couple nights.the punch line>>> One of my idiot cousins got drunk and hit up on her. HAD NO clue she was packing a bigger cock than he was.I debate,sheould i tell his crazy ass the truth? He wouldnt believe me anyways.

How do  you know your cousin has a bigger cock  than  hers? have  you  seen  your cousin fully hard?  ~   or  is  this  one  of  those "ficticious" posts? it sounds like it!

I know who has what cuz I also grew up playing sports with my cousin (same high school) showers dont lie my friend. Even if it is a cousin.Yanno,we really could just stop trying to bait others here for confrontations.Insinuating falsehoods or lies.I dont go knocking anything you have to say.So take a chill pill.

I did LEGALLY marry a post-op TS TWICE.  Once in 77 and then in 81.  My SO and I have been together for 4 years is a pre-op whom will have SRS in early 05.  I have dated over 30 post-op's and many pre-op's.  Not bragging but I started in 1968 during the swinging 60's& 70's.  I find TS women unique and very sensual.

Let's be real here,having a relationship with a TS girl is way out of the mainstream and could have serious social repercussions if our straight friends/co-workers/supervisors/family found out. I have always been pretty much a loner so having a TS gf where her and I did things together and kept to ourselves would be good but I am not going to tempt fate and fly in the face of conventional wisdom by going public with the fact that I have such unusual desires.