Unless they won’t tell you their true ppm ofc and you have no choice if u wanted to proceed. One POt at the time (now an SB) told me she doesnt give out her ppm if she is lukewarm on a SD. Another SB told me her other SD is giving her a monthly while I’m only doing ppm, but i don’t trust her motives for obvious reasons.
At this early stage of my (re)learning the game, ive only got a partial month track record on three SBs so not enough to extrapolate a monthly allowance or even be sure I want to do a monthly. I do have a favorite that I’ve spent the most time with, despite her commanding the highest ppm of the bunch. Oh well, can’t win em all!I ask because I can’t see having more than 1 full time (monthly allowance) plus a few ppm backups.
...juggled any full time monthly allowance SBs, because I won't go there. But I have juggled as many as 3 PPM hotties over multiple months. That juggling act lasted 19 weeks over 18 dates.
Usually one steady SB with two or three PPM on the side plus one-night-stands while traveling.
I generally have from 1 to 4 "active" SB's on PPM at any time. Plus another 3 to 5 who I see occasionally. And every 8
to 10 weeks I also spend some quality time seeing a KGirl or local pro.
Life is good
The Cat
Only one lady. She is an ex-P411 provider and a total honey. Her SB days were numbered in days. There is no specified allowance, but I just give her money when she needs it, even if it is just to bring her a birthday cake. She is too shy to ask, so I need to pry about the money.
For covid-19 reasons but a lot more, we are both exclusive. However, that is likely to last long after vaccinations. SE Asian vacations are being planned (she is Thai and wants to visit her family as soon as she is able), but after her family visit we plan to meet there and have fun together. She said that she wants me to see her in her "tiny little bikini" but because we are going to the seashore parts of Thailand for snorkeling and diving, I suspect that the swimsuit will be a sensible one-piece suit for snorkeling and the same suit with a swim shirt over it for diving. I have no doubt that she will make it up to me behind closed doors.
But I do have what you would have to consider a "full time" SB right now that I have been seeing for several months now that I do pay weekly, but it's an arrangement I doubt would be practical for many guys here. I actually hired her, we see each other four or five days a week and she is not being paid "just" to be an SB. This is one of those times I have to admit is a "do as I say, NOT as I do" type of situation. lol
As far as PPM girls, I do still have a couple that I see, but I have to confess I have nowhere near the "rotation" of SBs right now like I usually do. I think I need to work on that. lol
You've had SBs ...I can understand the rotation, allot of SD so this. That was the reasoning for my post about SB vs PR. It appears that you as well prefer the SB intimacy over straight provider on the clock and time watcher.
Natasha 💋
AND, not all providers are clock watchers.
I see both hookers and SB's, limiting myself to ONLY seeing SB's would be like only seeing women of one race or hair color, why would I want to limit myself when the primary reason I "pay for it" is because I like the variety?
I know you are here trying to promote yourself (trying just a bit too hard I might add) but please don't put words in my mouth.
Like Gambler, I've never done a weekly or monthly allowance. Only PPM thjere's a lot of reasons why PPM is the only way to go. but i consider a PPM SB to be Full Time if she's my one and only or nearly so, even if I'm seeing others. during the pandemic I actually had only 1 SB and was exclusive with her. (Until she ghosted!) Now Im, working on rebuilding the rotation. At one point I had as many as 9 SBs I could call on for a date. But even with that many, there were always one or two I considered my "full time" SBs due to the intensity and intimacy of our arrangements.
Unless they won’t tell you their true ppm ofc and you have no choice if u wanted to proceed. One POt at the time (now an SB) told me she doesnt give out her ppm if she is lukewarm on a SD. Another SB told me her other SD is giving her a monthly while I’m only doing ppm, but i don’t trust her motives for obvious reasons.
At this early stage of my (re)learning the game, ive only got a partial month track record on three SBs so not enough to extrapolate a monthly allowance or even be sure I want to do a monthly. I do have a favorite that I’ve spent the most time with, despite her commanding the highest ppm of the bunch. Oh well, can’t win em all!
If you don't count marriage, never had a full timer. As far as juggling ppm SB's, it seems like it is either feast or famine.
The advice you’ll here relatively consistently on this board is to always go PPM and the typical range is probably around 3-5 SB’s which there is usually somewhat of a pecking order in that range from 1 that you see on a very regular basis to ones that you only see occasionally. It usually comes down to what your individual budget and the amount of free time you have to dedicate. If you have a budget of $500/month and you have 2-3 days free max, you are going to be on a much different path than say someone who has a $5-10k monthly budget and every night of the week free and open. With all that being said, forget about what’s typical on this board and figure out what works for you. I haven always followed the advice of always doing PPM. I have had set monthly allowances but they generally didn’t start that way. It just became more convenient for me after we established a fairly set routine. I didn’t have any issues once I went to an allowance and the relationship was actually enhanced. Some SB’s like the certainty and less transactional feel of an allowance. I would caution to not enter in to an allowance right off the bat. You just don’t have a good baseline established. At the end of the day, set it up your relationships in a manner that works for you.
Have 1 on an allowance. Bought her a house, luxury cars, vacations, country club membership, etc...Trying to get her off the allowance. Performance over the years has significantly deteriorated.
Maybe you know her. Profile name is My Wife!
Since that allowance gets me absolutely nothing anymore, only go PPM. Keep a rotation of:
Tier 1) #1 SB that I see 2-3 times of month. Plus occasional travel, great meals, day drinking, incredible mind blowing sex.
Tier 2) 2-3 secondary SB's that I see according to my availability and wants. This Tier requires some maintenance and has frequent turnover as they are of a quality that can be starters on another SD's team.
Tier 3) SB's that are not Tier 2 quality, but bring value (great fun/low cost) or former Tier 2 on their way to being cut from the roster, or SB's that I can call last minute who will show up when needed.
I have never had a monthly arrangement -- my schedule is unpredictable and crowded, so no confidence that i could ever get value out of a monthly payment.
Just pre-covid, I had 6 PPM women in a rotation, with 3 other occasional friends. That was completely unworkable and I was manic. The budget was pressed, but the time commitment was crazy. As the numbers dwindled down through 2020, I made little effort to replace lost SBs. In the period of March '20 to February '21, I only saw five women that were new -- that I wasn't seeing in March of 2020. In all, I was down to one long-term SB by Thanksgiving through normal attrition of everyone else, and a general lack of effort on my part to replace those that left or that I got rid of.
But the fifth new one is beyond a unicorn -- no requests for money but grateful and enthusiastic about gift cards, horny, sexually talented, hosts at her place because it's more convenient for her, and reaches out to "come see me -- maybe a quickie?" And I enjoy her a lot -- she is truly becoming a friend -- great sense of humor, good conversationalist, and we always have A LOT to talk about -- after round one, lol.
And this is new territory for me. I have never just had one SB with no desire to look for any more. No idea how long it will last, but I certainly won't be ending it any time soon.
My first SB over a decade ago was like your unicorn. Enjoy the friendship part too.
My OP was about figuring out how to convert ppm to allowance when a SB is heading that way. I have two either at $1,200/ month or $2k/ month to be basically my playmate every weekend. The higher rate one I have seen four consecutive weeks so while early, i could justify it... I’m getting basically the amateur version of the ps Gabbie Carter, similar sick body at age 20 and bubbly personality. This one is not pushing to change from ppm so the only reason is to get a slight discount.
The $1200 is an pre offer from a POT before we’ve had BCD time. She’s 25 and also pretty sick looking, just relatively not as fine as the other. She seems like she would take a little less than 1200 to have a steady allowance.
I have never had a monthly arrangement -- my schedule is unpredictable and crowded, so no confidence that i could ever get value out of a monthly payment.
Just pre-covid, I had 6 PPM women in a rotation, with 3 other occasional friends. That was completely unworkable and I was manic. The budget was pressed, but the time commitment was crazy. As the numbers dwindled down through 2020, I made little effort to replace lost SBs. In the period of March '20 to February '21, I only saw five women that were new -- that I wasn't seeing in March of 2020. In all, I was down to one long-term SB by Thanksgiving through normal attrition of everyone else, and a general lack of effort on my part to replace those that left or that I got rid of.
But the fifth new one is beyond a unicorn -- no requests for money but grateful and enthusiastic about gift cards, horny, sexually talented, hosts at her place because it's more convenient for her, and reaches out to "come see me -- maybe a quickie?" And I enjoy her a lot -- she is truly becoming a friend -- great sense of humor, good conversationalist, and we always have A LOT to talk about -- after round one, lol.
And this is new territory for me. I have never just had one SB with no desire to look for any more. No idea how long it will last, but I certainly won't be ending it any time soon.