I don't play on SA anymore but my POT I met last Friday (who met me on SB) said on SA there are way more gents seeking vanilla relationships on there now. So if that is true it appears Brandon is becoming more successful in shifting the mission of SA. Don't know what impact that has on us SDs.

I got booted from SA about 5 years ago. Moved to SB and kept going

As you said that shift from Sugar to Hypergamous dating is what Brandon claims has been looking for since last year. Just wondering if this brings Seeking one step closer to rumors of Brandon's plan to sell the site to Match...  

 
It prompts a lot of questions for me:  
1. How will women and men know why each other is there when any sugar-talk is prohibited, including language that says you are NOT there to sugar-date?  
2. Do we need to develop new code words that refer to old, now prohibited code words?  
3. Once we connect with a woman (guess we cannot assume they are a POT anymore?), how do we determine why she is there without a violation?  
4. Will we need to continue to avoid some terms even offsite to avoid a Hypergamous dater from reporting a guy who offers P4P?  

 
Laertes, can you please share your SB's general market area? I wonder if her observations are only local to her area.

 
Anyone else get feedback about (presumably) newer men on Seeking that are NOT expecting a sugar scenario?  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

I've found that many of the profiles I see on Seeking these days fall into several discernible categories.

1.  Those who are looking for a traditional, but upscale, relationship.  One I read today said she was seeking her one and only, not multiples.  That's a strong clue.  They have drunk from the Hypergamous cool aid punch bowl.  They tend to be newbies on the site.

2.  Those who are def seeking a SB/SD arrangement and know what that means.  They often will say something like, we both know why we're here.  I was chatting up a girl returning to the site after a multi year absence who mentioned she could see how the name had changed, among other things.  She's a def POT and knws what we're looking for.

3.  Those who are curious and don't know what to expect.  I had one ask me just today.  She said "I've never been a SB,"  So she knows that seeking is a sugar dating site.

It's entirely possible that Seeking will eventually be ruined, as far as finding new Sugar Arrangements is concerned.  But for now, it simply requires more finesse, reading between the lines, and moving to a M&G irl asap so you can speak freely.

Seeking still works as it always has.  However, you just need to be careful as a SD to write things like p  p m or ben ifts so the algorithm doesn't catch you. While not fair, I do get messages from sb's that say whatever they want.  My issue is some of the profiles are written with absolutely no thought as to how to attract a guy.
Some are straight up GPS which is is understood, but just don't advertise it!  They write "generous", "change my lifestyle", "spoil me",  "only very successful men", "don't contract if only want a hookup" .  I assume guys who want to spend the extra time on Seeking want to find a side chick who is NSA and wants more of a "girlfriend" as opposed to escort.  The bottom line is the girls on here want the cash and now the benefit is sex (and companionship).  BTW, there are plenty of escorts on there too, and nothing wrong hooking up with them, they are just like everyone else.

There will always be a demand for sites like SA. If SA doesn’t want it, others will appear

San Diego

If I dive back into SA it will not change much.  Get off the site as fast as possible.  Then, in text, ask her what she's looking for.  Let her lead the conversation on whether she wants to date or sugar date.  Let her tell me what allowance and frequency she is open to.  Same with intimacy.  If she dances around, we can hop on the phone or a video call.  If she still refuses to talk, then I'll just bounce.

You on SA but not SB.?  Ive got a kead for you in San Diego but she's on SB.  Im not premium so I  cant  get messages

I’m on SB

My SB of five years dipped her toe back into the seeking pool for about a month in the early fall of 2025.  She says she had M&Gs with 4 guys and extensive communication with one other out-of-town gent that she never actually met.  Of the five, three were clearly looking for a traditional SD/SB arrangement and she had a BCD date with at least one of them.  The fourth guy was a newbie who really wasn't sure how SBs differ from escorts.  From her description of the M&G with him, I'm surprised she didn't walk out of the coffee mid-sentence.  

She had three platonic dinner dates (at increasingly nice places) with the fifth guy, who clearly fell into the category of looking for a dating relationship.  He was forthright about looking for a girlfriend.  She says that he told her three things that are relevant to this discussion -- 1) he was only on two "dating" sites, Match and Seeking; 2) he was not interested in an "arrangement that involves money"; and 3) he was very patient - that he had dated his last girlfriend for three months before they slept together.

So that is 20% of her serious contacts who were on the site for a real romantic relationship.  Obviously, this is a single and very small sample, but this particular guy was using the site in exactly the same way that Match markets itself.

I am seeing a lot more women who are on Seeking to find a real romantic relationship.  The number of "True Love," "Monogamous" and "Marriage Minded' tags that I'm seeing on profiles has definitely increased.  I am curious if they are expecting traditional dating or if they still expect to get paid like a SB....