I was on Ashley Madison and it was a big joke and waste of time. New beautiful women in my areas everyday, yet could not connect with anyone.
In contrast, have had great success on SA.com. Takes a fair amount of work and effort, weeding through the flakes, BSC's and women with GPS. However, be persistent because the payoff can be huge. After 2+ years on SA, I am just a text or email away from mind blowing sex with several lovely young women.I'm sure this has been discussed on here before, but I just have to vent. I have contacted some POT SBs several times over the last few months that just ghost on you on the day of the date. We message back and forth several times before the date and everything is set and we are a go to meet, even up to the night before the date. Now, I have always made first dates within 15 minutes of my home, and have never been left waiting at a restaurant. I have learned to send a message to confirm our date the day of and give my text number should anything happen. Well, I check to see if they have read the message and maybe left me their phone to text them too. Well, they never ever seem to even read the message. Of course I don't show either and have never gotten the "I'm here where are you" or any other communication for that part.
I'm of the opinion that these are not girls that back out at the last minute but rather a concerted effort by the website to keep you engaged and "tease" you into maintaining your membership. What say you?
I agree about the annoyance factor. I've had the same experiences you have, and I have also been left waiting at the restaurant for a no show. It's fucking annoying. But I don't think it's anything more sinister than the natural flakiness of these women. It would take a truly brilliant writer to create the separate and individualistic personalities these girls display in their messages. There's no way SA have this much talent, not to mention the considerable time it would take to lead you on, and many others as well. In contrast, I gave up on Ashley Madison years ago when I realized that many of their profiles were in-house fakes, all written by the same staffer, and they felt like it. You could tell it was all written by one person. That's not the case on SA. I believe that all the SA profiles are actually submitted by individual people, some of whom are flaky as shit!
I was on Ashley Madison and it was a big joke and waste of time. New beautiful women in my areas everyday, yet could not connect with anyone.
In contrast, have had great success on SA.com. Takes a fair amount of work and effort, weeding through the flakes, BSC's and women with GPS. However, be persistent because the payoff can be huge. After 2+ years on SA, I am just a text or email away from mind blowing sex with several lovely young women.
I have been on WYP for just over a month and was worried about scams and no-shows.
First M&G was a no-show. I messaged her and said that I was returning home. Within 30 mins she sent several messages and claimed that she had scheduled our meeting and her baby-sitter for the following week. She took the blame and apologized multiple times. True or not? Who knows?
M&G #2 was also a no-show. Again I messaged her after 30 mins and told her that I was leaving. Within five minutes she responded and asked me to return to our meeting place. I did because it was only five minutes away and my home was over an hour away. M&G went well but I was unconvinced.
Next two M&G went well and went BCD within two dates over the next two weeks. Girl #2 took two additional meetings before we went BCD.
So over I have ongoing BCD arrangements with all 3 of the women that I have met. All three have assured me that they are interested in continuing the relationship.
I do trust that girl #1 truly mis-scheduled our M&G. Girl #2 has been a sweethart but is still somewhat flakey. Girls 3 and 4 want more of my time than I can give but have not been pushy at all.
I do believe in the women on WYP. Unfortunately, I have bitten off more than I can chew. I didn't expect that every M&G would work out but it did. So, I guess I flaked on girl #1 by not rescheduling with her because too many relationships worked out before we could schedule the next meeting.
Not familiar with WYP, what is the main angle on that site? On SA, supposed to be about "monthly" allowances, but I prefer a gift after a successful M&G. Monthly allowance replaced by a "bid"?
I can only speak of my experience and I have no experience on SA.
From what I have read about SA there is only one real difference. On WYP the daddy pays for the first date. I made arrangements on each M&G after paying the agreed amount ($100-150). Each girl agreed to my initial offer of a PPM based allowance and I explained my expected frequency of dates. No mess no fuss.
Hopefully, these relationships last because I don't want to ruin a perfect record. Could just be luck of the draw. Also, I am only one month in and it is possible that everything falls apart soon but I have had more than one BCD with each of the ladies over this limited time. So far so good!
Whats your paid date to BCD ratio?
I'm getting around 8/10 on SA if I'm being serious about it. I've also walked away with the allowance if it's very clear that BCD is not on the table, no one has said anything yet. I've turned dates that wouldn't have had BCD time into BCD time because of it, so the system works.
It seems like on WYP you're guaranteed a maximum of half that rate because you're always going to pay for a M&G that may not pan out.
I attempted to convey that the difference described by SA relationships that I have described and the relationships that I have experience on WYP is simply that the first meeting, a platonic M&G, with WYP includes a minimum appreciation. All other meetings are BCD at an agreed PPM allowance. So only the M&G are not BCD.
I used WYP rather than SA because I wanted plausible deniability if discovered. I don't know if it is better worse or the same as SA. I just wanted to share my experience so other guys would have information that I did not have when I decided to pursue this experience.
For sure man. Thanks for sharing!
More information makes this board stronger. I've never used WYP, but maybe it's worth a second look if you're getting a good conversion rate.
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