A couple months ago, I stopped seeing a 24yo Caucasian spinner SB  whom I had 4-5 encounters with (including one overnight). To give a better picture, she is a 6 in looks and 9 in personality and was completely new to the SB world…In fact I am pretty sure I was the only SD she has had a repeating arrangement with.  

After it ended, she asked me why it ended and wouldn’t accept my initial breakup explanation.  First, I said “things had run its course,” then “I met someone else,” and finally “I’m going back to civvie dating.” The last excuse worked in a way but somehow her great personality made it hard to ghost her. Eventually she just straight up asked me to come have sex with her anytime I was free without any sugar (other than free dinner- she even offers to pay because she has a full time job) or promise of commitment. So far I’ve cashed in on the “freebie” 3 times.  

I have not led her on to believe that I have stopped sugaring or hobbying… I just don’t throw it in her face. Only one occasion (after she came back from a wedding) did she ask me directly if I had been having sex with someone else but she relented after i playfully misdirected her. She’s not a psycho or needy, just a normal” woman.  I know the free play could end any moment im just enjoying the perks (she still acts wild and calls me daddy). To humble brag, the current rotation consists of four  girls including her, a high flying model (9-10 in looks) who travels a lot , a former exotic dancer, and a college sophomore. I see my non-SB fwb when the others are busy, to cost average down, and because I enjoy her company too.  

Anybody else can share an experience with a SB conversion?

I have had former SB's try to stay friends in the hope that I would offer to reinstate them to current SB. Even got a fantastic spontaneous BJ in a parking lot from one.  But she eventually figured out there would be no more sugar from me... she even tried to have her MOTHER push me to get back together! That was a very weird day....  

 
As I think about it, suggesting to an SB that we drop the sugar has been one of my best "it's not you, it's me" approaches to ending an arrangement.   In fact, I have seen others here who claim their SB is falling in love with them or wants to upgrade to real GF status. I suggest that they test that theory by telling her you wont pay her for sex anymore. See if you can actually finish the sentence before she closes her car door and drives away... LOL  

 
But you did it! So congrats! Enjoy the apparently fee pussy while you can.  

 
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The Cat

Lol I know that nothing is free… beside the dinners and small friendship gifts ( a housewarming gift), I’m paying in “face time” and bf like paying attention to her. Only other thing I’ll say is her menu is full lol.  

I agree if you just drop the civvie request on the average   Sb, she’ll OJ us lol.  1. Pick the girl … mine was just above average in looks and self sufficient financially and was just experimenting in SB world, 2. Use reverse psychology and make it her idea- lot more to say about that. 3. Work the idea in gradually.

My wife was a covid conversion (former well known PS- like HoF).

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One was a Vietnamese college girl in Japan.  After a couple of months I told her I needed her sugar allocation to stay another month. She agreed and continued the arrangement including multiple  sleepovers. Stayed in touch and eventually when back in the States paid for some of her US college related expenses.

The second one is now one of my best friends, but platonic. She quit sugaring completely. I'd go back in a heartbeat but it's her choice.

I've known (that is, dated/sugared/fucked) enough porn stars (and strippers) to know that it's rare to find one who has less baggage than civilian women.  But they exist. So glad to see you got the Golden Ticket, and not the GPS ticket, LOL.  

 

But IME the old theory runs true:  The crazy chicks fuck like, well, crazy chicks.  It's so amazing to find a partner that has zero inhibitions and a giant libido.  It almost makes the non-sex crazy bearable.  Almost.  

 
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The Cat

I hadn't thought of purely platonic friends... it counts as long as you're getting something out of it!

I have real ethics qualms about freebie sex after dumping an SB.  I know they are adults and as such are responsible for their own choices freely made.  But still it feels too desperate like they are trying to get back to the money train.  I don't like taking advantage of desperate people.

That's why i was on Wall Street lol.

Seriously, outside of obvious no fly zones, I think it is silly, paternalistic, etc, to talk about the ethics of taking advantage of "desperate" hookers/SBs.

The vast majority of girls here, if being honest, will tell a life story that suggests some degree of desperation. You said it that as adults, they are responsible (if not a minor or forced or intoxicated). That is also why they ghost your old ass when they've achieved some goals they had or they come into better life circumstances.

My 24-yo freebie makes ~$70,000 a year as a teacher, has a credit score of 740, and is completely drug free (not even weed i've tried to offer her). If she likes to fuck my 40-something ass or if she's fucking me in the hopes i'll marry her someday, that's her decision as long as i've been upfront that i'm still playing the field.

I attended a talk given by a woman from SWOP, the Sex Workers Outreach Project, several years ago.  She made a similar point to your own.  People get involved with sex work for many reasons.  Some love it and make it a career, others do it short term, while some don't like it but do it anyway as their only way to make a living.  But they are all doing it voluntarily and the sex is consensual.  As long as no one is being forced or coerced, it's her choice to be there.  Let her make her choice.