I had a M&G with a 40 year old who is about a 7-8. No allowance discussions had come up prior to the M&G where I was expecting the inevitable discussion to take place. Fifteen minutes into the m&G before even finishing the first drink she asks me to go home with her.  The sex is outrageously good, definitely a 10, and after a 3 hour session I bid her farewell. I didn't know what to do about gifting since she hadn't even hinted about it. So I left.

A week later I contact her again to meet and she hints in a very roundabout way at some compensation. I ask her what her expectations are and she replies that is up to me, doesn't want any kind of agreement but would appreciate tips to help her out - but it's not a requirement!  With that she invites me to dinner.    

How would you guys handle this? Would you give her cash at the local standard ppm rate? Tell her I would pay some of her bills? A modest weekly allowance?  Ideas please.

as she's 40, but certainly not unlimited.  It's not so much what makes her happy today/tomorrow, but unless you agreed to exclusive, it's still a bazaar.  btw: congrats!

...but be careful how you do it.  

 
Maybe you will get some clues during dinner conversation. She may mention that her car payment is a problem, or that she's saving for a vacation, or her rent is going up.  If she gives you that opening, you can gift her at the end of the date in proportion to her implied needs. So maybe hand her $250-$300 and say hope this helps with your car payment this moth, etc.  

 
If she wants more, it sounds like she will make some hints before your next date.  

 
OR  - you can take the discussion head on:  

 
Ask her how much help she NEEDS - do not ask her how much she WANTS! She wants $5,000 per date. But she may only need $250-$350 to make her life feel more comfortable and secure.  Also, having an allowance chat in the restaurant may not be ideal - especially if she is shy or uncomfortable talking about her pussy price.  So you might want to delay until your are not in public.  

 
Please let us know what happens.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

and say I hope this is helpful, see how she reacts. If she's enjoying the sex and goes home with a smile and 200 in her pocket she's a keeper!

Early 30s Asian chick. At least 8. Single mom. Turned heads at dinner. Made me look good on my arm. Wild in bed, smart, worked hard to produce multiple pops.  

Third date, after fucking: “I need $1,000 to fix my van but I will take $500.” I had been giving her 4. I gave her 5. Somehow she was never able to see me again.  

(I’m not asking what the lesson is; I figured it out.  

This should be a major post on here!  Been there, done that: buyer beware!

... that would be my story. Except my SB got me for a $700 "car repair."  Once I gave her the cash, she ghosted me. Too bad - she was one amazing fuck.  

 

Life is good

 
The Cat

Didn't detail it before, but my recent story is similar.  Early 30s Asian chick. At least 8. Single Mom...maybe we talking the same girl??  lol
This one was actually a well known porn star from about 10 years ago and in bed seemed to love replaying her ex-career.  Super sloppy BJ and over-the-top wild. No holes barred.
Kept saying she was stressed over her back due rent and needed 1400 asap as she had been served an eviction notice.  Told her I couldn't do that much for a near stranger - but after multiple texts I relented and sent her 600.  Yes, somehow was never able to make any of the dates, childcare issues, blah, blah.
Weird how our stories are so aligned.

Second session at her place began with a great home cooked meal and a bottle of red that I brought, in addition to the flowers (because I had noticed the first time that she had flowers everywhere). Soon adjourned for another great 3 hour BCD festival which exhausted me.  I can't keep up with her.  She again never asked nor hinted at any amount of allowance but made it clear that she was escorting during this period of her life.   I left an envelope with $200 as sweetman suggested and when I got home there were no angry texts.  So we'll see what happens when I ask to see her again.

During conversation she struck me as a very intelligent and educated woman although with lots of bizarre new age type philosophies.

I hope my advice works out for you!  Keep us posted on developments.

This week's request to meet again (remember I had left an envelope with 200) was met with a polite no. Long text about liking me and not wanting a relationship blah blah, when we all know the bucks did the typing for her.

We can learn a couple of things from this unusual case: (1) She gambled and lost - she was obviously hoping to land a whale, probably due to inexperience in the bowl by not naming her price. And (2) for us guys that terms should always be clarified up front - no exceptions. In this case I came out ahead but I would have been prepared to pay more had I known up front. But at this point offering her more will backfire. She will either ask for an unrealistic amount and get offended by a refusal or slowly up her ask gradually.

So that's it guys and gals (if any)

I tend to disagree with both of your conclusions, and as I advised you earlier, her options, while limited are still open ended regarding money.  At $200 you come across as a cheap ass.  Now whether she is engaged in open bidding for her pussy, we have no idea - but you might make a realistic offer and see what happens.

You are much closer to the seine and have a better feel for her mentality, but I would still engage in the negotiation process a bit more and see where it goes...

Agree with Pole that this ain't necessarily a dead deal.  

 
You may recall others (that is I) suggested a higher gift of $300 or so.  Not saying Papa Sweet was wrong. His number is probably right for his market area.  But I think you did misread her expectations because - as you admitted - you never asked her.  So what should you do?  

 

Ask her now. Start by agreeing that you, too, do not want a long term relationship. But you also know that both of you  seem to enjoy each other's time. So ask her what type of arrangement would make her feel good for a while.   The worst that can happen is she will tell you to fuck off. But she might come back with a number you can support, or that you can negotiate down to an aggregable level. Remember that negotiating is ALWAYS about your budget, and NEVER about her WORTH.  Couch your offer in a short term time frame: "Let's try $300 for a few more meetings and see how we feel. There's no pressure for more - we can always change our minds at any time."  

 

Even if that fails, you can leave it with a promise that she can reach out anytime for a one-off meeting at the promised allowance. You might get an occasional booty call with a known, skilled hottie.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

Thanks to you both for the suggestion to give it another shot.  As Pole points out her options are limited so I think time is on my side.   I'll mull it over but my gut feel is to move on.  

One point I need to clarify is that I did ask her and her reply was that she didn't want any money for time spent with her nor for any specific act, but that I should tip her if I felt I had a good time. I should note that I thought she was having a better time than I was at a ratio of 3-1 thanks to my linguistic efforts.  

Why don’t you just offer to give her what your comfortable with and see what she says.  It seems that you like her. Her age should not be a factor.Don’t cheap out or worry what others think. Just be fair and let the chips fall.

I sent a text hinting at a higher amount but she had to name it. She didn't respond and blocked me on SA. So I don't want to spend more time on this. I'm old and grouchy and have no time for drama. I can get my reliable Latina on call within 20 minutes for 200. I don't chase.