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I occasionally visit the Oasis club in the Atlanta area. The last time I was there I casually asked a dancer about her becoming a Sugar Baby. She was open to the idea. But after a private dance I decided she would not be good choice. But it got me thinking. Has anyone every recruited a SB from a titty bar? If so, what was your experience - good or bad? The advantages are obvious, you get to see her nude, you engage in a lengthy conversation and you can get a private dance to finalize your understanding. The disadvantages that come to mind. You may be suspected of being the law, the dancer will string you along in order to get a private dance and it might be uncomfortable when you see the dancer the next time you are in the club. What does everyone think about the titty bar recruitment technique?
The ones that understand what it means and may even be worth the effort are already on SA. LOL
I've run into a few in Philly that once you get past the initial smoke screen they put up, they confess to being strippers.
and yes, I have even "pulled" a few dancers out of there way back in the day, but trust me when I tell you this, strippers make the WORST SB's. They are a thousand times higher maintenance than hookers, who in turn are much higher maintenance than your typical college coed looking to make some spending money on the side.
Actually your stated disadvantages are the least of your worries, except for being strung along for lap dances which is always the risk with strippers, I mean it is was they do for a living you know. lol But unless your game is seriously weak, I can't imagine ever being suspected of being LE, and why would you feel uncomfortable seeing a dancer in the club after you have fucked her?
Strip clubs don't have to be the money sucking waste of time that it is for most guys, but you have to know how to "work it" with strippers, and even then it's more aggravation than it's worth unless you are one of the guys who gets good at the game and enjoys it. For 99% of the guys out there, I would have to say that strippers make the absolute WORST SB's.
As GaGa mentioned, you must have excellent strip club game to get extras for better than SB-like rates. This applies to getting stripper time OTC as well.
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Many, but certainly NOT all, strippers are semi-pros or full time pros, who supplement their revenue by stripping. The mix varies based on the city and the club management. At some clubs it's virtually impossible to get anything, even a light touch of your junk through your pants during a VIP dance. At others, virtually every stripper there will actually have a menu of their prices for various acts. Most fall somewhere in between. You need good game to find out which are which and ensure you don't get charged "tourist from Ohio" or "Japanese businessman" rates.
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Similarly, many, but not all, strippers are actaully happy to find a sugar daddy - but they may have a different definition of SD than you do. The ideal SD for a stripper is usaully a "regualr" who visits the club 2+ times a week, brings her gifts (jewelry, shoes, etc.) and spends thousands on her for dances - but she will NEVER fuck him. In other words, he's an idiot who lives in a fantasy world where he thinks she loves him.
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But there are strippers who have a reality-based idea of the sugar bowl. My experience with this has been mixed. But here's how i approach it.
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Don't bring up the idea of a SD until after you get extras in a VIP. That way you aready know she's willing to get sexual with you and she knows you are not LE and actually have cash. Then start by making a little joke "wow, you are so much fun maybe I should be your sugar daddy!". Watch her reaction... and take your cue from there. If she seems to balk at the idea, pass. But if she's seems to like it, then dial in a bit more. "Actually I kind of like the idea of hanging out with you. We could have fun helping each other out."
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Now rememebr she's a semi-pro or full time pro, so if she's going to consider this she will start with assuming you will pay her pro rates. You need to reset that expecation. Talk in broader terms than fuck for an hour for pay. Most stripper/pro's that I've met typically ask for $500+ for an OTC "session." That ain't happening. So talk about other acitivites you can do: shopping, upscale dinners, concerts, etc. All the "luxury" stuff she can't afford but desparately wants to tell her stripper GF's she does. (Trust me, she desparately wants to tell "those ho's" she works with that she's getting the good life.) As in a typlical SD/SB meet and greet, don't press too hard. Set the vision for how fun/cool/lucrative it cou'ld be for you two to hang out and then DON'T try to close the deal in the club. Exchange numbers and then wait for her to text you. She gets a lot of BS offers from guys trying to impress her. And in ATL she probably gets all kinds of new or existing rappers who offer $$$$+ for her to just whore herself out to them (and possibly their buddies) - and she's probbaly taking that offer. You need to be different. You need to be the guy who will treat her like a lady before he fucks her. If she doesn't nibble within a few days, start texting about other stuff: hi really liked hanging with you. Have a great day." or "saw a beautiful sunset last night. really made me think about your eyes" (yeah I know, but be sincere and it will work), or "just got back from the Drake concert, it was amazing". Don't bring up the sugar offer. Let her see you as a cool guy she wants to be with. If you are going back to the club, tell her when you will be there. When you see her, again don't mention the sugar stuff until after you've hung out for a while (and hopefully after extras). Then you can gently suggest it again. It's important that she likes the idea and that she thinks she wants it from you more than you want it from her.
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I've used this process many times. Some resulted quickly in a reasonable p4p agreement whenever I'm interested, Others took more time but got me weekend dates to wine country, San Francisco, and week-long dates to Vegas and NY for just the T&E expenses and a few $$$ gift when I dropped her off at home,
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Bottom line: Strippers are generally treated like whores buy (pun intended) the guys they meet in clubs. Treat them like they are not whores (hey, not saying you should be a pussy and let them walk all over you), and they will appreciate your attention and affection ALMOST more than your cash.
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BTW: The reverse scenario is woth noting here. There are SB profiles that list "dancer", "exotic dancer", or "stripper" as their occupation or state it in their "about me" section. When I see these, I assume they are semi-pros. Actually in my area (north of Los Angeles) I see a fair amount of A-list and B/C-list porn stars as well. There's no doubt that these women are up for P4P, but they generally have unrealistic lifestyle expectations.
But she’s definitely an exception to the rule. She costs less than any of the sugar babies that came before her. I also happened to have met her on SA.
I’ve picked up a few strippers in the past and I would say most are open for UTR p4p. It’s usually underwhelming when it happens though. It costs at least the same as a hooker, they usually only want to stay for an hour, and you still have to set up a hotel room and all that nonsense. Most have more serious GPS also. If I see a hooker a few times, they’ll almost always be willing to grab a bite with me, which paves the way to getting dates for their hour price, which turns into sugar dating if you hit it off. I feel like it takes a little more to get strippers to do that and you’ll often blow at least a couple of bills on them as soon as you spring for those dances to get her alone and talking to you. Out side of wysiwyg, I don’t feel like there’s much benefit. It’s like they’re an awkward middle ground between civvies and pros with many of the disadvantages of each. Kind of like the semi pro sugar babies.
I guess if you really enjoy going to the strip clubs and getting lap dances, then you might as well be putting out those fishing lines, but from an efficiency standpoint, there are better ways to either end up in a sugar relationship or just getting laid, at least for me. I’m sure one could practice their game on strippers and eventually get good at getting them quickly and for good prices. I also couldn’t justify going out every night to see who’s around. Most of my sugaring and whoring are done during the day just out of logistical reasons.
my #4 SB is a DANCER...the word 'stripper' disappeared years ago lol
Her g/f (nearly all are bi) number something like 8-10 in my area and ALL are on SA.
Most are "students" lol
High maintenance?? maybe, but only slightly more than any college chick.
Most are older, a little more realistic, a lot more dependable.
A secret for you guys who want to take a chance: I run all of my POT SB by the alpha dancer to get a thumbs up/down.
They have amazing intuition, knowledge, or whatever.
So far almost all of my M&G have led to bcd because of my screening apparatus!
Many years ( 35-40 ) ago I traveled a lot and enjoyed considerable success in getting strippers to go to my hotel for an after hours romp. Most were from small clubs in smaller cities and back then the ladies traveled a circuit around one region of the country and tips at the clubs were not great.
With the advent of larger Gentlemen's Clubs things changed as the girls there were able to make Big $$$ at the clubs and my success ratio declined so much I ultimately gave up chasing pussy there ....by then escort agencies offering outcalls sprang up in the Yellow Pages phone books all over the country.
In recent years I've had several SB's age 28-35 on SA who were former dancers...they all had matured and grown weary of the fast pace of strip club life...I have one now who is finishing her masters degree in nursing anesthesiology....her rate is on the high side because her time for P4p is limited by her school schedule but she's a perfect date for full evenings together including social events and she LOVES 3somes as did my previous two other former dancer SB's 😋
As long as their former lifestyle hasn't taken too large a toll on either their attitude or their looks that is.
A lot of strippers, once they calm down a bit of course, do have a "been there, done that" where it comes to the fast paced life and actually appreciate a decent guy who will treat them good, but while they are 'in the life" there is no one flakier than a hot stripper. lol
I know we have had this conversation before, but it bear repeating ESPECIALLY where it comes to strippers/ex strippers. Do NOT think that throwing money at them is the key to their heart, any successful stripper has had more than her share of guys trying to impress her with their money, and you will most likely comes across as nothing more than a "mark" if you try to impress her with how much money you have. I equate it with trying to have the "biggest boat" no matter how big a yacht you buy, there will also be some other guy with a bigger one. lol
...Is pretty much what I said.
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Only GaGa said it faster.
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Life is good.
She said: hey i want to invite you for a dance..we can meet and discuss..guys wjat would you do??
If you're already planning on a trip to Chicago, then sure, add a few hours to head to her club and see what happens.
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But if not, just tell her to contact you if/when she gets to your area.